Muricans are docile & obedient slaves

[DevilDoc]

Just because it is legal, that doesn't necessarily mean that it is right and just.

Yes, but you don't fight that battle in the streets. That's foolish. Fight the battle in court.

 

[salutethehill]

Taxes, regulations, guns, and drugs are my favorite laws to break.

Copyright too. Those are a joke.

I do crack my window. But I also have taken part in protests of roadblocks where we would redirect traffic by holding signs this sign "roadblock ahead, turn here to avoid".

Roadblocks get drunk drivers off the road. They save innocent lives. Why would you protest that?

Copyright laws prevent theft. Are you a thief? Why?

Drugs are bad for you and affect lots of families in awful ways.

Taxes pay for our military, help the poor, and support lots of good programs (as well as stupid ones).

I'm the problem with America.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Would you give a shat if a trespasser you called the cops to remove ended up bloody while resisting?

The airline invited this guy on the plane by allowing him to buy a ticket and then board the plane. Big difference between that and an intruder coming to your house uninvited.

 

[MercyPercy]

Roadblocks get drunk drivers off the road. They save innocent lives. Why would you protest that?

Copyright laws prevent theft. Are you a thief? Why?

Drugs are bad for you and affect lots of families in awful ways.

Taxes pay for our military, help the poor, and support lots of good programs (as well as stupid ones).

I'm the problem with America.

Are there any laws you have even the slightest issue with, or as soon as they are signed and sealed, they become the best ideas and morally right? You're giving off the impression that you conflate law with morality in an absolutist fashion.

 

[hog88]

The airline invited this guy on the plane by allowing him to buy a ticket and then board the plane. Big difference between that and an intruder coming to your house uninvited.

You throw a dinner party, it's over and a guest refuses to leave. You invited them but their still trespassing.

The guy agreed to a contract when he purchased that ticket, he didn't honor his side of the deal.

 

[Vol8188]

Roadblocks get drunk drivers off the road. They save innocent lives. Why would you protest that?

Copyright laws prevent theft. Are you a thief? Why?

Drugs are bad for you and affect lots of families in awful ways.

Taxes pay for our military, help the poor, and support lots of good programs (as well as stupid ones).

I'm the problem with America.

I protest them because the violate the 4th amendment. A cop has to have a reason to stop and harass you. If you really want to take out drunk drivers you're better off distributing the same number of cops throughout town looking for people failing to maintain their lane.

If they are maintaining their lane and driving the speed limit, are they really a drunk driver?

Violating a copy right is not theft because the other person still has their original. When theft occurs you no longer have the stolen item.

Drugs are a personal decision and everyone should be allowed to do with their bodies what they wish.

Taxes are extortion and everyone should lie as much as possible to avoid as many taxes as possible.

A big goal of mine is to organize bike rides without helmets to protest the nanny state. 100s of motorcycle riders riding through town without helmets.

Yes, you're the problem. You're the reason government continues to grow because so many like you have no problem with it.

 

[lawgator1]

I ****ing hate being on your side.

:finger3:

Feels good, don't it?

 

[n_huffhines]

Not one passenger on that plane stood up and defended their fellow Murican and paying passenger on that Chicago to Louisville flight. And to be honest, I'm not sure if I would have reacted any differently. But one of the things that was brought to my attention today was how grown men and women just allowed the goons to just manhandle a guy off a plane and not move a muscle.

At what point do Muricans eventually reach the breaking point? I mean, think about what happened before all of this. They were herded through the TSA molestation line where their bodies and belongings are scanned and fondled, then hearded to the gate to wait for their flight for a few hours to only be told that 4 of them had to give up their seats. Then they board the plane and are still threatened with loosing their seat on the plane.

And when it is all said and done, they still leave late because United has to clean up the bloody mess that was left behind after their fiasco with the passenger, so the Muricans ended up losing their seats (or losing time) anyways. So what did they really gain in the end?

Life is good. We have too much to lose to be revolutionaries. People that fight revolutions typically have a lot less to lose.

Also, there is no way you can step in there and come out on top. The passenger didn't put up a fight and his face got bashed in. If you fight them, it will be worse. ****, they might shoot you if you're a bystander and start fighting them, so....

...yeah we are docile and obedient, but it's the only rational way to be.

 

[n_huffhines]

Roadblocks get drunk drivers off the road. They save innocent lives. Why would you protest that?

What if the road block holds you up for 2 days? Obviously you'd be against that, so where do you draw the line?

Copyright laws prevent theft. Are you a thief? Why?

They prevent the unlawful use of certain ideas. It's not even close to the same thing as theft.

Drugs are bad for you and affect lots of families in awful ways.

It's my life. **** off, you nanny.

I'm the problem with America.

Yup

 

[volinbham]

Not one passenger on that plane stood up and defended their fellow Murican and paying passenger on that Chicago to Louisville flight. And to be honest, I'm not sure if I would have reacted any differently. But one of the things that was brought to my attention today was how grown men and women just allowed the goons to just manhandle a guy off a plane and not move a muscle.

At what point do Muricans eventually reach the breaking point? I mean, think about what happened before all of this. They were herded through the TSA molestation line where their bodies and belongings are scanned and fondled, then hearded to the gate to wait for their flight for a few hours to only be told that 4 of them had to give up their seats. Then they board the plane and are still threatened with loosing their seat on the plane.

And when it is all said and done, they still leave late because United has to clean up the bloody mess that was left behind after their fiasco with the passenger, so the Muricans ended up losing their seats (or losing time) anyways. So what did they really gain in the end?

Didn't read the whole thread but tell us what you would have done Rambo.

 

[salutethehill]

Road blocks holding people up for 2 days. What?

Drugs have never affected just the person.

 

[volinbham]

Violating a copy right is not theft because the other person still has their original. When theft occurs you no longer have the stolen item.

Copyright violation is typically is commercial use without permission.

What you are stealing is potential revenue from the copyright holder.

Let's say you write a book. I copy it and through my connections I get distribution/publishing for it and get it in Amazon and on the shelves. I rake in all sorts of sales for the book and since they buy it from me they don't buy it from you.

I don't give you anything because why should I? You still have your book. Without copyright law you aren't entitled to any of the revenue I generate.

Sorry.

 

[tennvols77]

I protest them because the violate the 4th amendment. A cop has to have a reason to stop and harass you. If you really want to take out drunk drivers you're better off distributing the same number of cops throughout town looking for people failing to maintain their lane.

If they are maintaining their lane and driving the speed limit, are they really a drunk driver?

Violating a copy right is not theft because the other person still has their original. When theft occurs you no longer have the stolen item.

Drugs are a personal decision and everyone should be allowed to do with their bodies what they wish.

Taxes are extortion and everyone should lie as much as possible to avoid as many taxes as possible.

A big goal of mine is to organize bike rides without helmets to protest the nanny state. 100s of motorcycle riders riding through town without helmets.

Yes, you're the problem. You're the reason government continues to grow because so many like you have no problem with it.

I want the government involved in as little as possible, and I agree personal choice is paramount. However, personal choices where other's are affected is a different story.

Example, heroin. I don't care about pot or many other drugs, but, heroin is different.

You want to do it, then do not expect the fire department or police to save you with narcan when you screw up.

Go ahead, have your own narcan, and do as you wish. However, these idiots are incapable of this simple thought and when they OD it becomes the "responsibility" of others to save their life at expense in time, money, and other resources.

So, what should we do, what about the law?

I'm all for allowing people to do as they wish, but, most of "these types people" are allowed to screw up and have other's pay for it.

So, would you be ok with allowing the "law" to say that it will not intervene or save these heroin addicts who OD? And if they had to, the person needing saving automatically is responsible for the thousands of dollars wasted in saving their lives and will automatically be jailed for 2 years for saving their life..should the government be allowed to issue cards to the addicts that says do not save my life I know what I was doing and do not expect you to save me and other's that say please save me regardless of the punishments I know I will incur...?

Are you willing to allow the bad personal choices to have real consequences?

The problem lies in what accountability should be leveled versus personal choice.

I think DUI's should not be a law. Why? Because we sell alcohol on every corner at bars and restaurants and assume people can be responsible.

If we didn't want people driving while drunk...... then don't sell it at establishments where you drive to. Pretty simple. So, get rid of the law, institute a very simple chart with offenses and punishments.

You drive drunk and hit someone, sorry, you go to jail for 5 years. No injuries, tough s***, you go to jail for 5 years. You destroy property, you will pay for it and you go to jail for 5 years. You hit and kill someone while drunk, then you go to jail for life. No timely court deliberation or appeals, done.

This is coming from someone who lost a relative to a drunk driver, too. Let people be free, but, there must be real accountability for this freedom. REAL PUNISHMENT WITH NO OTHER OPTION.

 

[n_huffhines]

Road blocks holding people up for 2 days. What?

Drugs have never affected just the person.

Have you ever heard the saying the antidote is worse than the poison?

 

[salutethehill]

Have you ever heard the saying the antidote is worse than the poison?

Yes. I'm glad it doesn't apply.

 

[n_huffhines]

Yes. I'm glad it doesn't apply.

You don't think it applies to the war on drugs?

 

[tennvols77]

Sorry for the length of post, but, to add to it. The man who hit and killed my aunt, it wasn't that he was drunk, it was that he ran from the police after being pulled over.

Instead of being a man and taking the punishment for his choice, he ran. Instead of taking responsibility and accountability for his choices, he took the cowardly way out and tried to run away from it. Regardless of what anyone thinks about the laws, they exist because a lot of people suck and don't care about anything but themselves, and most do not have the character or backbone to take their lumps when they get their hand caught in the cookie jar. Carry on.

 

[Danl]

You designate a companion and that person can fly for free (minus taxes) with you every time you fly.

I hope Ms. Hog doesn't find out about your companion.

I wish Southwest would fly to Knoxville. At least four times a year I gotta fly into/out of Nashville and rent a car and pay the one-way charges to drop it at the other airport. Still worth it to fly SW for free.

 

[Vol8188]

Sorry for the length of post, but, to add to it. The man who hit and killed my aunt, it wasn't that he was drunk, it was that he ran from the police after being pulled over.

Instead of being a man and taking the punishment for his choice, he ran. Instead of taking responsibility and accountability for his choices, he took the cowardly way out and tried to run away from it. Regardless of what anyone thinks about the laws, they exist because a lot of people suck and don't care about anything but themselves, and most do not have the character or backbone to take their lumps when they get their hand caught in the cookie jar. Carry on.

Why was he being pulled over? All you did here was justify my stance that traffic stops are dangerous for all involved and because of that should be limited to extreme circumstances.

 

[McDad]

I hope Ms. Hog doesn't find out about your companion.

I wish Southwest would fly to Knoxville. At least four times a year I gotta fly into/out of Nashville and rent a car and pay the one-way charges to drop it at the other airport. Still worth it to fly SW for free.

You fly into Nasville?

 

[hog88]

I hope Ms. Hog doesn't find out about your companion.

I wish Southwest would fly to Knoxville. At least four times a year I gotta fly into/out of Nashville and rent a car and pay the one-way charges to drop it at the other airport. Still worth it to fly SW for free.

Yep, that would suck.

 

[McDad]

Lol

 

[Danl]

You fly into Nasville?

Yep, when flying in from SoCal. Then rent a car to drive to Knoxville area and drop it at TYS. Reverse procedure when leaving for SoCal. PITA, but not compared to the alternatives.

 

[McDad]

Yep, when flying in from SoCal. Then rent a car to drive to Knoxville area and drop it at TYS. Reverse procedure when leaving for SoCal. PITA, but not compared to the alternatives.

If you ever get in a bind, let me know. You can borrow one of my vehicles.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

Yes. I'm glad it doesn't apply.

How them boots taste?