Muslims behead yet another person

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Vol8188 said:
I need to take a nap but I'll do some research and get back to you. Most organizations that preach hate are hard to tie back to specific acts of violence because you don't always know who there members are and like all other hate groups they use the lone wolf model to prevent things from being tied back to them.

But I'll make an effort. I'm just recovering from a surgery and need a bit of rest.
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Feel better brutha. That's a tough surgery.
 
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PKT_VOL said:
You are buying into the premise that sympathizers are as low as 100x or 1000x per attack. I do not buy such a premise.
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I don't define sympathizers as radicalized terrorists.

Edit: If I did, I would estimate the number to be in excess of 50%.
 
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PKT_VOL said:
If they give money, aid, cover, food, etc. to the cause, would you consider them as part of the cause?
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Part of the "cause", yes. A "terrorist", that would depend on the circumstances. I think many of the people who some would be considered part of the cause are unwilling participants who have little choice.
 
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PKT_VOL said:
If they give money, aid, cover, food, etc. to the cause, would you consider them as part of the cause?
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Do you consider the little old lady in the ghetto who is afraid to talk to the police as culpable as the the perpetrator of a double murder?
 
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Septic said:
Part of the "cause", yes. A "terrorist", that would depend on the circumstances. I think many of the people who some would be considered part of the cause are unwilling participants who have little choice.
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Singling out the guy who straps the bomb to his chest vs the guy who funded it, the who built it, the guy who provided shelter for it, the guy who filmed it, the guy who recruited him, the guy who lied about it, the guy who willingly turned his head, the guy who cheered him on or cheered after the attack (publicly or privately), etc. is naïve.

You are either part of the cause or you aren't. The cause is the problem. It is the idea that is the problem; not their individual roles in executing said idea.

What separates all those mentioned above is opportunity, skills, and resources. Such factors are constantly in flux. The guy who is cheering on the inside today might be a financier tomorrow. The guy who who sponsors a jihadist to go to the front lines or a camp today might have enough money to buy off the police/officials (or buy equipment) tomorrow. On and on.
 
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Septic said:
Do you consider the little old lady in the ghetto who is afraid to talk to the police as culpable as the the perpetrator of a double murder?
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To the deterioration of her community? Yes.

To the next potential victims of said murderer? Yes.

It is simple game theory. If everyone acts in their immediate self-interest, they all lose. If everyone acts with one eye toward the future, their neighbors, and their children, they (collectively) come out on top (even if a few draw the short-end of the stick).
 
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volfanngaytorland said:
Absolutely agree on the KKK.

Now I'm no scholar on these things so bear with me. Here are the ones I'm not seeing a history of violence or terrorism on. (Or have no known connection to the Christian faith)

Crew 38
Free America Rally
League of the South
Tennessee Freedom Coalition
Political Cesspool
Shepherds Call Ministry

I'm still researching on some of the others.
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Crew 38 would qualify as a terrorist group, but outside of many group members being christian and ties to the kkk, they should not be labeled as a christian group.

Political Cesspool-christian group. def a hate group. hard to link to any crimes.

Shepherds call is a very small group with limited info, but def a christian hate group.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Crew 38 would qualify as a terrorist group, but outside of many group members being christian and ties to the kkk, they should not be labeled as a christian group.

Political Cesspool-christian group. def a hate group. hard to link to any crimes.

Shepherds call is a very small group with limited info, but def a christian hate group.
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I want you to know, as a Christian, I killed no one today.
 
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volfanngaytorland said:
Also not seeing much with Identity Nation or Council of Conservative Citizens.

I think we can all agree these organizations are morons, outdated, extreme, etc. I'm just not seeing any terrorist characteristics.
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Identity nation seems very small all I can find is a facebook page. CoCC is def a christian hate group, but I am having a hard time tying them to criminal activity.
 
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Obsessed said:
I want you to know, as a Christian, I killed no one today.
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I'm proud of you. I'm sure it wasn't easy.But imagine being me? I'm don't believe in god or an afterlife. I have a hard time not killing people over the smallest of things.
 
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NEOCON said:
AOL.com Article - BREAKING: Video appears to have captured gruesome beheading of US journalist James Foley


You would think at some point the majority of people would wake up and realize there are more crazy Muslims out there than decent ones.

Also...before the fire storm happens on here from all the liberals....if there were more good and normal ones then why is the Middle East in such turmoil and women still have no rights?
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Neo, isn't your wife of Asian origin? Seems I vaguely recall you mentioning this once. You really want to get into the "women's rights" arguement if that is indeed correct? Some Asian cultures still teach women to be "obedient" and walk three steps behind their husbands.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
That's the main difference I see. Christians want to distance themselves from any organizations that are similar to the KKK. When's the last time you saw a Muslim cleric go on the evening news condemning these actions?
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volfanngaytorland said:
I agree. This is how I see it as well. You don't see many Muslims speak out against such things (believe the same, fear, ignorance could all be reasons) whereas Christian groups tend to preach love and distance themselves from the violent few.

Just an observation. Carry on. :)
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Carl Pickens said:
Time to kill more Muslims and urinate on them
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W.TN.Orange Blood said:
Now now, don't want to upset the liberals w/that action.
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......I'm still waiting to hear some good christians condemn this
 
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Weezer said:
Neo, isn't your wife of Asian origin? Seems I vaguely recall you mentioning this once. You really want to get into the "women's rights" arguement if that is indeed correct? Some Asian cultures still teach women to be "obedient" and walk three steps behind their husbands.
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lol is she really Asian? No one tell neo what continent the Middle East is in.
 
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Vol8188 said:
I'm proud of you. I'm sure it wasn't easy.But imagine being me? I'm don't believe in god or an afterlife. I have a hard time not killing people over the smallest of things.
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Can you explain this "no afterlife" stuff to me? I'd like to know where or what happens to your soul when you die...
 
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Weezer said:
Neo, isn't your wife of Asian origin? Seems I vaguely recall you mentioning this once. You really want to get into the "women's rights" arguement if that is indeed correct? Some Asian cultures still teach women to be "obedient" and walk three steps behind their husbands.
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Do they cut off their genitals if they only walk two steps behind?

I know, I know....for whatever the Muslims do wrong there is always some group doing worse. Signed, apologists.
 
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Obsessed said:
Can you explain this "no afterlife" stuff to me? I'd like to know where or what happens to your soul when you die...
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Nothing. I don't believe in a soul. Just like when a bug dies. We simply cease to exist.
 
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