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#51
#51
Scottyhop said:
In my 4.5 years at ut I think there has been a president for 1 year. How is this possible?
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Because for some reason the people that make the decisions think that northeastern academic elite administrators are the only way to go and then they come down here and quickly realize that their little elitish ways aren't going to hack it with the alums and power folks at UT.
 
#52
#52
utfantilidie said:
I think you are being too kind. That said, # 10 just proves your true loyalty to UT for any doubters.
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Not happy the basketball program is facing substantial penalties proves loyalty. Got it.

I don't disagree with anything in the OP. I don't really care about being the darlings of the coaching circle, but I realize that the issue goes deeper.

I think it's important to remember that we don't really have all of the information on the violations. Trying to cover up the violations is obviously not good, but the violations themselves... it's like the 6 minor violations under Kiffin for things like ESPN filming us talking to recruits and mentioning BB once on the radio.

Not all violations are created equal. If it's multiple prospects and every coach on staff is doing it, then that's a bad sign. If it's only Selby right after he decommitted, then don't let it happen again.

Addressing some other random stuff now, barring your charismatic head coach from recruiting off campus is not a cost-cutting measure. If the NCAA even considers that aspect, they must have some kind of vendetta.

As for the paycuts, I'm guessing that has to be written into the contracts or it probably doesn't happen. It does show some form of acceptance of wrongdoing, and I think it's punitive rather than money-saving in nature. Maybe it doesn't help the case much, but maybe it does, and it can't hurt.
 
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#53
#53
dknash said:
Not happy the basketball program is facing substantial penalties proves loyalty. Got it.

I don't disagree with anything in the OP. I don't really care about being the darlings of the coaching circle, but I realize that the issue goes deeper.

I think it's important to remember that we don't really have all of the information on the violations. Trying to cover up the violations is obviously not good, but the violations themselves... it's like the 6 minor violations under Kiffin for things like ESPN filming us talking to recruits and mentioning BB once on the radio.

Not all violations are created equal. If it's multiple prospects and every coach on staff is doing it, then that's a bad sign. If it's only Selby right after he decommitted, then don't let it happen again.

Addressing some other random stuff now, barring your charismatic head coach from recruiting off campus is not a cost-cutting measure. If the NCAA even considers that aspect, they must have some kind of vendetta.

As for the paycuts, I'm guessing that has to be in the contracts or it probably doesn't happen. It does show some form of acceptance of wrongdoing, and I think it's punitive rather than money-saving in nature. Maybe it doesn't help the case much, but maybe it does, and it can't hurt.
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good post... welcome dknash :salute: :rock: :hi:
 
#54
#54
This was the hatvol response I was expecting and hoping for. Well said.


I can't help but feel like we need to find our university president ASAP, to start getting all aspects of the university system back into a structure we can be proud of, or at least satisfied with.
 
#55
#55
IPorange said:
This was the hatvol response I was expecting and hoping for. Well said.


I can't help but feel like we need to find our university president ASAP, to start getting all aspects of the university system back into a structure we can be proud of, or at least satisfied with.
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It'll be at least January. No way it's going down before the new governor takes office.
 
#56
#56
I am also perplexed as to why we have gone on so long without one... but Im pretty sure not having one is working better than anyone since Johnson was in the office.
 
#57
#57
hatvol96 said:
1. Life generally gives you exactly what you deserve. Act like some paragon of virtue while lying to your governing body and you end up giving a Swaggartesque mea culpa for the whole world to see.
2. I wonder who was monitoring Steve Forbes' phone calls and texts? They failed as miserably as his proposed internet monitor.
3. I'm amazed that so many people never learned the lesson of Watergate. It's not the crime, it's the coverup that gets you.
4. This is what happens when you have incompetent yes men instead of solid old pros as assistants. Nobody on that staff has the resume or the guts to say "Hey boss, this isn't a great idea."
5. Somewhere in Chicago, Jimmy Collins is having a good laugh. I'd say Deon Thomas is chuckling, too.
6. I'm not sure why UT thinks financial penalties will appease the 'AA. All those do is save the institution money.
7. I feel bad for the optimistic folks who naively believed in Pearl. I'm laughing at all the know nothings who claimed they were sure Pearl was pure as driven snow.
8. This will certainly be cause for celebration when the Big East coaches congregate in New York for Media Days. Lots of guys in that league get the satisfaction of having what they've always said about Pearl confirmed.
9. No real off campus recruiting for the better part of a year is a substantial penalty. I just don't see the 'AA deeming that to be enough.
10. Contrary to what most people probably think, I'm not happy about this. What's bad for Bruce Pearl is bad for UT.
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#3, ask Martha and the Rocket how that works
 
#59
#59
Scottyhop said:
In my 4.5 years at ut I think there has been a president for 1 year. How is this possible?
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Because at UT the president is president of the "system" rather than a campus. And with Tennessee's peculiar two-system setup, that means he is first A) competing with the Board of Regents schools for resources, and then B) overseeing sometimes fierce competition between UT campuses for resources. All this BS means that the position lends itself to being attractive to politicians, not competent academic administrators, and politicians are weak and spinless little fsckers who come and go.

I entered UTK as a freshman 22 years ago, and in that entire time there's been exactly one UT president who's been worth a damn.
 
#60
#60
I'm not going to say anything derogatory, because I'm not on a rivals board to do so. However, I was afraid something like this was coming down the line sooner or later. The big thing now is whether or not the NCAA finds anything worse...or is not satisfied with UT's own self sanctions.
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#61
#61
I continue to be amazed at how everybody sees it necessary to either agree or disagree with a faceless message board hero.
 
#67
#67
govols9570 said:
I continue to be amazed at how everybody sees it necessary to either agree or disagree with a faceless message board hero.
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Why are you here, then?

I swear, the underlying root of so many people's BS concerning certain members has to be jealousy.
 
#68
#68
If Pearl is forced to resign, I'll run the stadium stairs, shine hat's shoes, finally pay my own way to a basketball game, and burn my Slurper card in front of Hopecote...
 
#70
#70
PoochPunt3rdDown said:
If Pearl is forced to resign, I'll run the stadium stairs, shine hat's shoes, finally pay my own way to a basketball game, and burn my Slurper card in front of Hopecote...
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You think I'd let you touch fine handcrafted Italian footwear? You've lost your damn mind.
 
#73
#73
I only wish we held our politicians to the same standard the colleges and NCAA hold coaches. If the same standards were held by politicians, NO ONE POLITICIAN would receive pensions, and we, as a nation would be trillions of dollars in the black, rather than running deficits into trillions. The average term would last about a month.
 
#75
#75
lylsmorr said:
Wait til after I come up for a game to do that.
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My peeps are gonna be pissed about this whole ordeal. They'll probably take the high road and not attend games in true Southern-style ambivalence. This means good tickets just waiting for us! :rock:
 
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