NASCAR bans the confederate flag

[TheDeeble]

Talk about fascism. Post what the company agrees with or don’t post at all.

More like don’t make the company look bad. Someone can do more damage to a company with a post than the value they bring as an employee. Much of that is due to the over reaction outrage cancel culture that now dominates the US, but it’s the world we live in now.

 

[TheDeeble]

And I'm saying I disagree with it. People may be complete ass holes when they're off the clock, but it's how they act on the job that should matter to an employer. If a company saw someone marching with BLM and decided they didn't like it and fired that person, wouldn't you believe it wrong? I would. I think a company's employee expectation should end once they're off the clock.

It should. But once someone in the cancel culture recognizes that person and publicily associates that person with the company, if they don’t fire him the media/outrage police will say the company supports those views by not firing him. Could cost that company a lot of business loss/negative reviews.

 

[Chris4Vols22]

And I'm saying I disagree with it. People may be complete ass holes when they're off the clock, but it's how they act on the job that should matter to an employer. If a company saw someone marching with BLM and decided they didn't like it and fired that person, wouldn't you believe it wrong? I would. I think a company's employee expectation should end once they're off the clock.

If an employee of a company makes as ass of themself either online or in public, the response from the business's clientele is most likely going to be adverse. It is 100% possible for someone who is off the clock to have a direct impact to their employer.

 

[hog88]

People suck.
NASCAR says noose found in Wallace's garage

Is Jussie in Talladega?

Something tells me this is a publicity stunt by Wallace or someone on his team.

 

[hog88]

This is my problem. I have no problem with a business dictating the behavior of employees while on the clock. What an individual does off the clock is another matter. Especially when there is nothing illegal about it.

You are representing your employer on and off the clock.

 

[Weezer]

You are representing your employer on and off the clock.

It's not that I don't see the point you are making, I just don't think that's the way it should be. Just one man's opinion.

 

[Chris4Vols22]

It's not that I don't see the point you are making, I just don't think that's the way it should be. Just one man's opinion.

So are you saying there should be protections from adverse actions against employers in such a scenario?

 

[Weezer]

So are you saying there should be protections from adverse actions against employers in such a scenario?

I'm saying people shouldn't hold an employer accountable for what an employee does when he's not on the clock. I know that it happens, I just disagree with it.

 

[Chris4Vols22]

I'm saying people shouldn't hold an employer accountable for what an employee does when he's not on the clock. I know that it happens, I just disagree with it.

I get that. I feel like it's fair if someone wants to judge a business based on the actions of its employees, whether they're on the clock or not.

 

[GoBigOrangeUT]

On social media, I describe myself as a test subject at Aperture Science. A few people get the reference and some even ask me about the cake.

Now you’re thinking with portals

 

[hmhawk]

You are representing your employer on and off the clock.

Have you noticed that the story disappeared from Yahoo and MSN's news sites? Something fishy here.

 

[hmhawk]

I get that. I feel like it's fair if someone wants to judge a business based on the actions of its employees, whether they're on the clock or not.

A pro athlete is an employee. Technically so is a college athlete. So how do you feel about their team or college when one gets arrested. Just being nosy.

 

[hog88]

I'm saying people shouldn't hold an employer accountable for what an employee does when he's not on the clock. I know that it happens, I just disagree with it.

People are known by who they associate with, same goes for companies.

 

[TNVOLNAVY]

Something tells me this is a publicity stunt by Wallace or someone on his team.

Could have been one of Jussie's Nigerians.

 

[Roustabout]

Something tells me this is a publicity stunt by Wallace or someone on his team.

I don’t think anyone should speculate either way. Leaking this was a mistake. Speculation is a mistake. We’ve seen the Smollet thing. We’ve also seen examples of blatant racism.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Not good at all, however; it seems recent similar events turned out to be hoaxes.

That was my point. The backlash if this turns out to be a hoax will be ugly

 

[Chris4Vols22]

A pro athlete is an employee. Technically so is a college athlete. So how do you feel about their team or college when one gets arrested. Just being nosy.

Me personally, I would judge the organization based on their response. I get that the appropriate level of accountability is debatable. I was digging to see exactly what Weez was saying. I don't necessarily disagree, but it's pretty easy for me to see how and why companies are being punitive in such scenarios.

 

[dovervolz]

I absolutely would not ask them to leave. I would ask them if I could help them. Not help them kill whitey, but would fill their order in a heartbeat. As far as the 3 biggest customers go, I never let anybody tell me how to run my business.

Talk about racism.? I guess it’s alright to refer to white people as “ whitey” but you can’t refer to blacks using the N word,?

 

[n_huffhines]

I disagree. All a libertarian wants is for the government not to be involved...and that's not in question here. Furthermore NASCAR for the most part does not own these racetracks...so your analogy also doesn't apply. Libertarians don't support banning symbols of free speech because somebody is offended

A Libertarian is somebody who supports the Libertarian party, but may not have very libertarian views.

Most with libertarian views would say that while they don't condone private restrictions on speech, the most important thing is that NASCAR be free to do whatever they want at their private event.

 

[n_huffhines]

Talk about racism.? I guess it’s alright to refer to white people as “ whitey” but you can’t refer to blacks using the N word,?

Yeah, cause "whitey" is totally comparable to the worst racial slur we have

 

[1972 Grad]

Something tells me this is a publicity stunt by Wallace or someone on his team.

My first thought for sure. The Dems might be wanting to put some pressure on that much needed anti-lynching bill.

 

[TheDeeble]

Yeah, cause "whitey" is totally comparable to the worst racial slur we have

How about less controversial racial slurs? There are plenty out there.

If white people can be called whitey, honkey, cracker, or any other names out there and not have the cancel culture try to destroy that person's life, then can less controversial racial slurs be used acceptably in reverse?

 

[luthervol]

It is exactly the same.....a word.

Bitch and mam are both just words, but I, and I assume you, would have totally different reactions with those words being used to address our wives.

 

[Sea Ray]

A Libertarian is somebody who supports the Libertarian party, but may not have very libertarian views.

Most with libertarian views would say that while they don't condone private restrictions on speech, the most important thing is that NASCAR be free to do whatever they want at their private event.

Of course. That jives with my comment here:

All a libertarian wants is for the government not to be involved.

What's your beef?

 

[Purple Tiger]

A pro athlete is an employee. Technically so is a college athlete. So how do you feel about their team or college when one gets arrested. Just being nosy.

In the pros, those players get fined, traded or released. In college they are usually dismissed.