NASCAR bans the confederate flag

[Doberman]

Smells like a hoax to me.

Pics (Video) or it didn’t happen.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Basically. It's just like a rape victim. You don't question the victim of the crime.

It's always the racist who claims there is no racism who wants all kind of csi evidence whenever there is a racist incident.

Sorry to break it to you, but there are times when "rape victims" get questioned as well AJ Johnson case anyone? I don't need many levels of DNA evidence. Show me a picture of the noose hanging, or a video of the guy hanging it.
Whats the old saying. Believe most of what you see, and only half of what you hear. Im sorry if people looking for their 15 minutes of fame has made me skeptical of things

 

[Y9 Vol]

Basically. It's just like a rape victim. You don't question the victim of the crime.

It's always the racist who claims there is no racism who wants all kind of csi evidence whenever there is a racist incident.

Your blind ignorance knows no bounds.

 

[BeecherVol]

This went about the way I figured it would.

 

[Boca Vol]

You are racist and don’t even realize it

How would you describe the "N" word to someone who is blind? For instance, if you sat that blind person in a room of white people and the word was used vs. if you sat that person in a room of black people and the word was used? How would you explain the "difference" and "acceptance or non-acceptance" of that word?

 

[Bigun]

Basically. It's just like a rape victim. You don't question the victim of the crime.

It's always the racist who claims there is no racism who wants all kind of csi evidence whenever there is a racist incident.

Wait, are you seriously saying that you shouldn't wait for the facts to come out before making a judgement?

 

[MG1968]

Or that black business owner not long after jussie who claimed racist white men spray painted the n word and swastikas on their building and stole from the shop, only to later find surveillance camera footage of the business owner doing it themselves

Or the college student who hung a noose from her door handle and blamed whitey for it. When she was busted for her fraud she said she was just, “trying to start a conversation.”

Oh, and don’t forget the Duke lacrosse case.

 

[DynaLo]

Oh I agree. Insults don't really bother me in the least. If they did, I'd avoid the PF like the plague.
That's why I was specific that if someone addressed my wife that way.
If someone addresses your wife, mom, or daughter that way; it's different than if they address you that way.

My girls were raised with this Eleanor Roosevelt quote in the home, “No one can make you feel inferior without your consent” and the understanding that it is your own personal power that either negates or lends credence to the words of others and how you react to them.

My daughter’s have both been called a bitch in my presence and having grown up seeing how I’ve dealt with it they both will laugh and respond almost verbatim with my own verbal response. I just chuckle with them.

I’ve raised two very strong girls with a determination to define their own self worth and not rely on the opinions or judgements of others to tell them who they should be. I’m thrilled to watch my granddaughters being raised the same way.

 

[1972 Grad]

Wait, are you seriously saying that you shouldn't wait for the facts to come out before making a judgement?

Yep. He is always on the side of the black man. I'm sure he thinks Jussie is innocent.

 

[Weezer]

Yeah, cause "whitey" is totally comparable to the worst racial slur we have

I agree, they are not comparable, but any word spoken with a hatred attached based on the color of a person's skin denotes bigotry and should be addressed as such.

 

[McDad]

I agree, they are not comparable, but any word spoken with a hatred attached based on the color of a person's skin denotes bigotry and should be addressed as such.

I believe a bigot's slurs define the bigot much more accurately than the bigot's slurs define the other person.

 

[Doberman]

Or the college student who hung a noose from her door handle and blamed whitey for it. When she was busted for her fraud she said she was just, “trying to start a conversation.”

Oh, and don’t forget the Duke lacrosse case.

Suffice it to say....there are more hoaxes than legit incidents.

Racism is so rampant, that you have make it up to find it.

Bizarro world.

 

[mr.checkerboards]

Suffice it to say....there are more hoaxes than legit incidents.

Racism is so rampant, that you have make it up to find it.

Bizarro world.

Don't forget the ole you don't agree with me so you're racist rhetoric that they keep spewing

 

[Weezer]

I believe a bigot's slurs define the bigot much more accurately than the bigot's slurs define the other person.

I believe a bigot is a bigot and should be called out as such. Whether it's a white person hating a black person or a black person hating a white person, hatred based solely on the color of one's skin is stupid and wrong.

 

[McDad]

I believe a bigot is a bigot and should be called out as such. Whether it's a white person hating a black person or a black person hating a white person, hatred based solely on the color of one's skin is stupid and wrong.

Understood. Racism towards me doesn't define me though. It defines the racist. I rented to black racists (before I found out they were racists). Made me sad for their kids who they were teaching to be racists.

 

[Chris4Vols22]

Suffice it to say....there are more hoaxes than legit incidents.

Racism is so rampant, that you have make it up to find it.

Bizarro world.

Any data to back that up?

Wouldn't you think, if anything, there would be more incidents under the assumption that not every single one is reported or investigated?

Jmo, we should take allegations seriously and draw conclusions based off evidence and investigation. It's pretty tacky to immediately assume an alleged victim is lying (obviously completely in the realm of possibility).

 

[volbeast33]

Any data to back that up?

Wouldn't you think, if anything, there would be more incidents under the assumption that not every single one is reported or investigated?

Jmo, we should take allegations seriously and draw conclusions based off evidence and investigation. It's pretty tacky to immediately assume an alleged victim is lying (obviously completely in the realm of possibility).

I hope it doesn’t come back on bubba and just someone being an idiot.

 

[Chris4Vols22]

I hope it doesn’t come back on bubba and just someone being an idiot.

Same.

On another note, I have been aware of who Bubba Wallace is, but I didn't know until yesterday that he is black. Back to under my rock, I guess haha

 

[Rickyvol77]

Basically. It's just like a rape victim. You don't question the victim of the crime.

It's always the racist who claims there is no racism who wants all kind of csi evidence whenever there is a racist incident.

maybe because nearly every major story of "racist graffiti, racist messages on waitresses' tickets, racist nooses" etc, have almost all been shown to be hoaxes perpetrated by minorities for attention?

 

[volbeast33]

Understood. Racism towards me doesn't define me though. It defines the racist. I rented to black racists (before I found out they were racists). Made me sad for their kids who they were teaching to be racists.

That’s why everyone is going about this racist stuff incorrectly..... you don’t change someone’s heart by yelling at them.... change the things that we can physically change..... police reform, prison reform, help black communities..... aunt jemima, uncle bens, and toppling statues is not going to change peoples hearts.

 

[Doberman]

Any data to back that up?

Wouldn't you think, if anything, there would be more incidents under the assumption that not every single one is reported or investigated?

Jmo, we should take allegations seriously and draw conclusions based off evidence and investigation. It's pretty tacky to immediately assume an alleged victim is lying (obviously completely in the realm of possibility).

You are right, of course, that assuming is irresponsible. However, it’s the order of the day. If you can’t beat’em, join’em.

Data wise, no, i have no concrete data. Just drawing a conclusion based on the last 4 years worth of accusations that I’m privy to, and most ended up being hoaxes. My assumption could be wrong, but I wouldn’t bet on it.

 

[McDad]

That’s why everyone is going about this racist stuff incorrectly..... you don’t change someone’s heart by yelling at them.... change the things that we can physically change..... police reform, prison reform, help black communities..... aunt jemima, uncle bens, and toppling statues is not going to change peoples hearts.

Darryl Davis should be in charge of race relations in America.

ETA: Nice work on the cleanup in this thread...whoever you are.

 

[KB5252]

Well duh. Did you think I said they shouldn't?

Wasn't sure, I agree they have the right to protect their brand. But in the other hand they don't have the ability, if they do they be cancelled by someone. A lot of Karens out there.

 

[volbeast33]

Same.

On another note, I have been aware of who Bubba Wallace is, but I didn't know until yesterday that he is black. Back to under my rock, I guess haha

I’m not a big nascar fan but knew who he was bc he is a Tennessee fan lol I hope he has a ton of success.

 

[utvolpj]

Darryl Davis should be in charge of race relations in America.

I'm about halfway thru his interview with Rogan. Great stuff