NASCAR bans the confederate flag

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k-town_king said:
That is happened. Only a dummy and or racist would say otherwise. We have a million different reputable sources reporting the same thing.

That is how this works. Something happened then people reported it. Everything doesn't have to have video or dna.
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Where is the picture of it? I mean surely somebody snapped a pic to show how racist people are. Where the video evidence since the entire place is under surveillance? All I’ve seen is a bunch of tiny nooses used to close garage door bays. Lol. Idiots.
 
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CagleMtnVol said:
They certainly like to imitate their passion for destroying monuments and historic locations.
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Yes the traitors did have a lot in common with ISIS. Murder, torture, rape. Enemies of the US. Killed actual American troops.

Damn you are right the CSA is just like ISIS.
 
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CagleMtnVol said:
It is pandering when you drop dates at historic tracks that's been around since the 50's and 60's to try and get into non traditional Stock Car markets.

The Phoenix track has been a part of NASCAR since the mid to late 80's.
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I think you've forgotten what the point is. The context is that we're talking about NASCAR trying to appease people that will never watch NASCAR. Are you saying that expanding to these markets was an effort to appease people that were never going to watch NASCAR? Seems ridiculous. I'm pretty sure the strategy was to grow their business, it seems like a no-brainer plan, and I would bet that their business grew.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Expanding to larger markets is not "pandering", and even if it were, you're arguing that NASCAR didn't grow from this?

I live in Phoenix and the one NASCAR event I went to was packed. Doesn't seem like they're having problems expanding here.
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Im not sure "pandering" is the proper term. Nascar wanted to expand itself from just being a southern sport with a bunch of oil faced hillbillies fighting after a wreck. Which is the reason why it got popular in and outside of its region to begin with. They felt like they needed to soften the characters (drivers) and expand the participation from mainly drivers from the southeast. It lasted for a while, but once the "names" started to step aside or in Earnhart's case die on the track they filled those positions with family friendly, clean cut guys that are great drivers but don't bring the same appeal. Nascar has since tried to manufacture the old ways with various gimmicks after slipping into a place where its not even as popular in the south as it used to be.

Ive got a tire off Ricky Rudd's car from a Phoenix race.
 
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BeecherVol said:
Im not sure "pandering" is the proper term. Nascar wanted to expand itself from just being a southern sport with a bunch of oil faced hillbillies fighting after a wreck. Which is the reason why it got popular in and outside of its region to begin with. They felt like they needed to soften the characters (drivers) and expand the participation from mainly drivers from the southeast. It lasted for a while, but once the "names" started to step aside or in Earnhart's case die on the track they filled those positions with family friendly, clean cut guys that are great drivers but don't bring the same appeal. Nascar has since tried to manufacture the old ways with various gimmicks after slipping into a place where its not even as popular in the south as it used to be.

Ive got a tire off Ricky Rudd's car from a Phoenix race.
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Which race? I went to the track way out in Glendale, but ironically I live much closer to the track here in the east valley.
 
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n_huffhines said:
I think you've forgotten what the point is. The context is that we're talking about NASCAR trying to appease people that will never watch NASCAR. Are you saying that expanding to these markets was an effort to appease people that were never going to watch NASCAR? Seems ridiculous. I'm pretty sure the strategy was to grow their business, it seems like a no-brainer plan, and I would bet that their business grew.
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Nascar has been trying for years to get the wine and cheese crowd to become Nascar fans. At the same time, they were Praying to get a Black Nascar driver, which they eventually did. That is the Nascar mindset, and now they are fully Woke and hoping it will pay off with improved TV ratings.
 
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n_huffhines said:
I think you've forgotten what the point is. The context is that we're talking about NASCAR trying to appease people that will never watch NASCAR. Are you saying that expanding to these markets was an effort to appease people that were never going to watch NASCAR? Seems ridiculous. I'm pretty sure the strategy was to grow their business, it seems like a no-brainer plan, and I would bet that their business grew.
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Yes, that's exactly what those of us on here who follow NASCAR are saying.

NASCAR is not as popular now as it was 20 years ago this after trying to expand their base they have been losing their Southern base at a dramatic clip. Which explains why next season they have announced a Cup race at the Nashville Speedway in Lebanon and are talks to get a race back at the Fairgrounds they are also in talks to have a Cup race at Road America in Georgia. They know they are in trouble and are trying to get the Southern base back another example is moving the Awards Banquet to Nashville from Las Vegas where it's been the last 15 years or so.
 
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CagleMtnVol said:
Yes, that's exactly what those of us on here who follow NASCAR are saying.

NASCAR is not as popular now as it was 20 years ago this after trying to expand their base they have been losing their Southern base at a dramatic clip. Which explains why next season they have announced a Cup race at the Nashville Speedway in Lebanon and are talks to get a race back at the Fairgrounds they are also in talks to have a Cup race at Road America in Georgia. They know they are in trouble and are trying to get the Southern base back another example is moving the Awards Banquet to Nashville from Las Vegas where it's been the last 15 years or so.
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Nascar needs more unique tracks. Talladega, Daytona, Martinsville and Bristol are my favorite races of the year because the tracks are different. I could watch superspeedway and short track racing year round
 
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CagleMtnVol said:
Yes, that's exactly what those of us on here who follow NASCAR are saying.

NASCAR is not as popular now as it was 20 years ago this after trying to expand their base they have been losing their Southern base at a dramatic clip. Which explains why next season they have announced a Cup race at the Nashville Speedway in Lebanon and are talks to get a race back at the Fairgrounds they are also in talks to have a Cup race at Road America in Georgia. They know they are in trouble and are trying to get the Southern base back another example is moving the Awards Banquet to Nashville from Las Vegas where it's been the last 15 years or so.
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Something I have noticed in last 10 to 15 years is when I listened to interviews with the drivers, they all seemed to have those Northern accents.
 
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In regards to the confederate flag, I don't give a sh!t about it one bit. I live in America, we have a flag, it beautiful and I show the respect it deserves by standing for the anthem with my hand over my heart. I teach my kids the same because we have come a long way as a country and we're still growing but it took a lot of sacrifice from people of all colors. Now if someone wants to kneel, as long as they are respectful then I take zero issue.

In regards to Bubba Wallace, he's one if the nicest guys I've had the privilege to meet. Wasn't even at Nascar ( admittedly I don't like racing), it was at a gas station in Charlotte near Lake Norman, he noticed my kids UT stuff and struck up a conversation. However, the FBI is involved now and if this whole thing was a sham then he deserves to be charged and I think faking a hate crime should carry the same punishment as committing a hate crime. Especially in a time like this
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
Something I have noticed in last 10 to 15 years is when I listened to interviews with the drivers, they all seemed to have those Northern accents.
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They should figure-8 on a half mile, that would be be awesome to watch. Nashville used to run it on the 1/4 mile infield track way back when. Crashes galore.
 
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mr.checkerboards said:
Nascar needs more unique tracks. Talladega, Daytona, Martinsville and Bristol are my favorite races of the year because the tracks are different. I could watch superspeedway and short track racing year round
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NASCAR needs drivers with personalities and cars that look like what is sold in the showroom.
 
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k-town_king said:
Why the JFK grassy knoll conspiracy theories from supposed non racist? Why are some of you so intent on finding evidence of a hoax? Why does someone saying something racist happened offend you if you are not racist?

Hmm


What does him being subjected to racism have to do with with a dustup between drivers? We had a guy straight run a dude over and kill him and they don't even bring that up anymore.
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Nothing really. Its the perfect troll. It pisses off anyone who sees it for like fifty different reasons. Its the perfect representation of the current climate. You take some old footage out of context apply it to the newly created racial divide that BLM has created from nothing and it drives both sides further apart. Its genius. The guy in the picture even has a Trump hat on. Its everything thats wrong with everything all in one tweet. Its hilarious.
 
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