NASCAR bans the confederate flag

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volinbham said:
The only thing I know for certain is there will be allegations that Talladega uses those garage pulls as an homage to the KKK and soon they will be replaced.
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Yep. The narrative will change and the pull ropes will still be the focus.
 
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n_huffhines said:
If they cut off the hand loop and presented it as a noose left in their garage, damn that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard of. The article doesn't prove anything unless I missed it somehow proving it was indeed the hand loop and the hand loop was cut off by a team member. It just presents a theory of how a hoax would have been carried out.
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I’m pretty sure the council woman that thought pollen on her car was the act of racists is more ridiculous than this theory.
 
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volbeast33 said:
I’m pretty sure the council woman that thought pollen on her car was the act of racists is more ridiculous than this theory.
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I don't understand the point. How are you comparing the two? She was trying to draw meaning from nothing, and y'all are accusing Bubba/his team of fabricating the whole thing. Her story was not a hoax, she's just crazy, and it does not make this theory about Bubba any more believable.
 
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GoBigOrangeUT said:
Huff is right. If it’s a hoax, we will soon know. However, putting so much energy into trying to disprove it without any evidence to support or deny the claim is the exact type of thing we have an issue with. It’s the insane levels of mental gymnastics used to try and disprove anything racial being done to a black person before any facts come out. It’s happened here. It happened with George Floyd and it happened with Ahmaud Arbery.
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In their defense...... we have seen time and time again..... fake or misleading reports about what happened..... I’m hoping this has nothing to do with Bubba but I still wonder about it.
 
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volbeast33 said:
In their defense...... we have seen time and time again..... fake or misleading reports about what happened..... I’m hoping this has nothing to do with Bubba but I still wonder about it.
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Have we seen hoaxes? Sure. They are far less often then compared to actual blatant acts of racism. Focus on the bigger issue.
 
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n_huffhines said:
I don't understand the point. How are you comparing the two? She was trying to draw meaning from nothing, and y'all are accusing Bubba/his team of fabricating the whole thing. Her story was not a hoax, she's just crazy, and it does not make this theory about Bubba any more believable.
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I didn’t say it wasn’t true.... I’m saying there have been an extreme amount of fake racists and people just being stupid.
 
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volfanhill said:
Have we seen hoaxes? Sure. They are far less often then compared to actual blatant acts of racism. Focus on the bigger issue.
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Nobody wants to actually focus on the issues on either side.....I believe him but I can see why people question things like this bc of all the nonsense we have seen.
 
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volinbham said:
I could see that he wasn't part of it. Could be a case of mistaking a garage pull for a noose. In Oakland some guy (black guy) put hand holds in trees and someone complained that they were nooses (they weren't). The mayor immediately declared it a hate crime even after the guy who did it explained it.

I keep going back to only 1 person seeing it. Until his story is released we don't know what he saw, where he saw it and if he documented it in anyway.
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Its an odd story to this point with little information.

Calling it a hoax is premature at this point, but there has to be some security video some where or something that sheds some light on this as well. Its not like there were thousands of people in the garage area like there typically is at a race there.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
Other than his #2 finish at Daytona a few years ago, I am struggling to see how he's maintained a ride. Obviously, there are great dark-skinned drivers who can win races as evidenced by Louis Hamilton. How long do cup series drivers usually get before they have to win or be demoted?
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Seldom to never! Right now Bubba could get practically any sponsor as long as he isn't complicit in this rope fiasco.
 
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n_huffhines said:
OK, but not the FBI too because that's getting into the realm of absurdity where "anything is possible" is the only leg to stand on.

If it's a hoax, we'll find out.
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We may never know one way or the other. If there is no evidence either way, which is entirely possible.
 
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n_huffhines said:
The idea that NASCAR would want this is insane. The idea that NASCAR's motive is to pander to people who are never going to watch NASCAR, while alienating people who do like NASCAR is insane.

At least make up conspiracy theories that make sense.
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NASCAR turned their backs on their core fan base years ago so it’s not so inconceivable.
 
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n_huffhines said:
The idea that NASCAR would want this is insane. The idea that NASCAR's motive is to pander to people who are never going to watch NASCAR, while alienating people who do like NASCAR is insane.

At least make up conspiracy theories that make sense.
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You haven't watched NASCAR much have you? They began pandering & alienating their traditional Southern fan base over 20 years ago.

When NASCAR started taking races away from traditional tracks like North Wilkesboro, Rockingham and even a race at Darlington so they could run to the 💰💰💰 at places like Indianapolis, Las Vegas, Fontana (Los Angeles/Hollywood), Chicago and Kansas City. They were doing everything they could to be the hip thing going and getting the young professionals in those city's to spend money at the track.
 
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CagleMtnVol said:
You haven't watched NASCAR much have you? They began pandering & alienating their traditional Southern fan base over 20 years ago.

When NASCAR started taking races away from traditional tracks like North Wilkesboro, Rockingham and even a race at Darlington so they could run to the 💰💰💰 at places like Indianapolis, Las Vegas, Fontana (Los Angeles/Hollywood), Chicago and Kansas City. They were doing everything they could to be the hip thing going and getting the young professionals in those city's to spend money at the track.
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LOL. Yeah, moving to the big city to make more $ is totally akin to taking part in a SJW conspiracy theory to make more $.
 
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DancingOutlaw said:
I would think a sport with millions of dollars in equipment and a history of espionage/sabotage would have cameras in these areas?
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You would think but as with everything else I'm sure there are blind spots. I'm just preparing people for the possibility we never know for sure if it comes to that.
 
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hog88 said:
What fact is that?
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That is happened. Only a dummy and or racist would say otherwise. We have a million different reputable sources reporting the same thing.

That is how this works. Something happened then people reported it. Everything doesn't have to have video or dna.
 
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