NASCAR bans the confederate flag

[Boca Vol]

Wouldnt know. I might have watched 5 mins of that whole race.

You wouldn't know? Could it have something to do with fake racism?

So, according to you, after the rainout on Sunday that all of the race crews decided to push and follow Bubba Wallace's car down pit road and paint "I Stand With Bubba" on the grass. OK

 

[DC_Vol]

I saw a Gator hanging by a noose off the front of Stokely when I was there in ‘04 during Florida week. That was called school spirit 16 years ago. 16 years ago ? How the hell did that happen ?

What a game that one was.

 

[GAVol]

Marty Smith: "Nascar will continue investigation into why noose was in garage."

Probably because whoever tied the knot only knew how to tie a uni knot in fishing line.

 

[volinbham]

Maybe they’re guilty of groupthink, but that’s about it. Mostly, they’re doing damage control for the brand.

Now that the news is out they've got much more damage control to do. The story doesn't end here for them. Details and timelines will be demanded by the fans. It's just the start of the PR effort IMHO. Intentionally or not NASCAR participated in a story that painted the fanbase as racists.

 

[allvol123]

Now that the news is out they've got much more damage control to do. The story doesn't end here for them. Details and timelines will be demanded by the fans. It's just the start of the PR effort IMHO. Intentionally or not NASCAR participated in a story that painted the fanbase as racists.

Yep, that thought has been ruminating in my head. Major damage control needed with some fans.

 

[volinbham]

so there's at least one other garage out there with the same rope pull (looks like another track). will be interesting to see how common this is across garages

not sure what track this is but the paint job and garage separation looks different

 

[mr.checkerboards]

so there's at least one other garage out there with the same rope pull (looks like another track). will be interesting to see how common this is across garages

Which track is that?

 

[DC_Vol]

Now that the news is out they've got much more damage control to do. The story doesn't end here for them. Details and timelines will be demanded by the fans. It's just the start of the PR effort IMHO. Intentionally or not NASCAR participated in a story that painted the fanbase as racists.

How goes a standard garage pull make it to the FBI for investigation???

How did this not get straightened out within an hour of the report.

How did BW not ask the most rudimentary of questions before hitting the twitter and television interviews?

Nothing adds up here to me.

 

[BeecherVol]

You wouldn't know? Could it have something to do with fake racism?

So, according to you, after the rainout on Sunday that all of the race crews decided to push and follow Bubba Wallace's car down pit road and paint "I Stand With Bubba" on the grass. OK

I think you re chasing a rabbit I didnt jump.

My point was that I havent seen anything that implicates Wallace as playing a part of some staged event to stir up a noise in which he was going to garner some sort of favor. If that happened, then yes he should be called out on that because theres nothing right about that either.

Were there other hands involved in creating this situation purposefully? I dont know that either. I'm fine with waiting to see what else if anything comes out before deciding that. It worked the first time.

It was a weird story. Some of those turn out to be something others not so much.

 

[volinbham]

Yep, that thought has been ruminating in my head. Major damage control needed with some fans.

yep. I'm not saying NASCAR painted fans that way but the media certainly did and already was on that message with the Confederate flag stuff. Add to it the track was in Alabama and it was full on - the fanbase are a bunch of racist rednecks.

The sport has been suffering, Corona made it worse and now NASCAR was part of the group claiming a hate crime happened. Could be a fatal blow if not handled well.

 

[volinbham]

How goes a standard garage pull make it to the FBI for investigation???

How did this not get straightened out within an hour of the report.

How did BW not ask the most rudimentary of questions before hitting the twitter and television interviews?

Nothing adds up here to me.

Even if it adds up it will need to be explained. You are correct, it requires explanation.

 

[Tyler Durden]

Maybe it's a coincidence, but it's pretty weird that a noose just happened to be in the garage all along and just happened to fall in the garage of the only black driver right after he called for the Confederate flag to be banned and NASCAR followed suit. The whole thing smells.

 

[Orangeburst]

Which track is that?

Must be a short track.

 

[allvol123]

Maybe it's a coincidence, but it's pretty weird that a noose just happened to be in the garage all along and just happened to fall in the garage of the only black driver right after he called for the Confederate flag to be banned and NASCAR followed suit. The whole thing smells.

Some people call it a handle.

 

[NorthDallas40]

I had to work nose down for most of the day and really just got all caught up on the “noose”.

I must say I’m like WTF?! if it’s a hoax it’s the worst hoax ever and a lousy “noose”

And somebody in the garage got the nick name Karen and will carry it with them to their grave

 

[UT_Dutchman]

Pryor played the lead in the movie mostly based on Wendell Scott’s career. Forget the name.

Greased Lightening.

 

[volinbham]

Which track is that?

not sure but the red white blue pillar isn't the same as the Talladega stall so far as I can tell. also the loop looks a little smaller.

I'm betting it was not uncommon to have these. May have been the first time the original witness saw it and hence the reaction. just spit ballin

 

[volinbham]

Maybe it's a coincidence, but it's pretty weird that a noose just happened to be in the garage all along and just happened to fall in the garage of the only black driver right after he called for the Confederate flag to be banned and NASCAR followed suit. The whole thing smells.

LOL - keep being you.

 

[GAVol]

Maybe it's a coincidence, but it's pretty weird that a noose just happened to be in the garage all along and just happened to fall in the garage of the only black driver right after he called for the Confederate flag to be banned and NASCAR followed suit. The whole thing smells.

That’s why they call it coincidence... and I haven’t seen anybody say that was the only knot of that type used in the whole garage.

 

[volinbham]

Must be a short track.

Trucks?

 

[volinbham]

That’s why they call it coincidence... and I haven’t seen anybody say that was the only knot of that type used in the whole garage.

plus garages get assigned by some random process or by qualifying.

 

[Tyler Durden]

Some people call it a handle.

Apparently that's the purpose of it, but it was still constructed as a noose right?

I'm just saying there's a lot of coincidences going on and I can see how some can be skeptical. Apparently there's video of some sort. NASCAR should show the rope falling and put this to bed.

 

[DC_Vol]

not sure but the red white blue pillar isn't the same as the Talladega stall so far as I can tell. also the loop looks a little smaller.

I'm betting it was not uncommon to have these. May have been the first time the original witness saw it and hence the reaction. just spit ballin

But how does a garage pull make it to the FBI? How does someone who has been around the track not say, “hey dumbass, that’s not a noose. It’s the garage pull.”

 

[Orangeburst]

Trucks?

I was just going by how far the noose was off the ground and how tiny.

 

[allvol123]

Apparently that's the purpose of it, but it was still constructed as a noose right?

I'm just saying there's a lot of coincidences going on and I can see how some can be skeptical. Apparently there's video of some sort. NASCAR should show the rope falling and put this to bed.

I think it was constructed as a handle.