National Average Price of Gasoline Hits an All-Time High

The apoplexy exhibited by either is something to behold that's for sure. But were I a supporter of this administration, I would be off the rails as well. It would be the only way to sleep at night.
I honestly feel sorry for people so caught up in politics it would effect sleep. I can't even begin to imagine caring that much.
 
I honestly feel sorry for people so caught up in politics it would effect sleep. I can't even begin to imagine caring that much.
When you are a year or two from 'retirement', and you watch your net worth drop by 25% or so, and it is painfully obvious that the policies of the current occupant of 1600 Pa Ave is the reason, you will understand.
 
I get it, everything is Biden's fault and if it isn't then it just isn't true.

It all starts with attempting to kill off a necessary industry. We need oil, gasoline, diesel, aviation and marine fuels, NG, and coal. We need more nuclear power, too, because we need sustainable and reliable electric power. Solar and wind are disrupters - and to some extent so is NG. NG can provide 24/7 electric power generation - solar and wind can't. NG generation makes for reasonably cheap generating plants, but that also directly competes with NG as an end use like for home heating or potentially to power cars and trucks. None of the nonsensical plans to transition to EVs makes any sense whatsoever without reliable electric power ... and perhaps you've read the grid is already spread too thin and that there may be rolling blackouts over the summer in parts of the country.

If your administration is dedicated to ending the use of fossil fuels, then companies are not going to invest in needed capacity, and they will shut aging and less efficient refineries or generating facilities. THAT is a government policy, and it dictates how corporate and investment communities react. THAT is why we are seeing record prices. THAT is policy that this ridiculous administration has pressed, and THAT is why we are paying through the nose for gas. And, yes, it Russian oil were still flooding the market, it would help the situation ... and further screw our national debt.
 
It all starts with attempting to kill off a necessary industry. We need oil, gasoline, diesel, aviation and marine fuels, NG, and coal. We need more nuclear power, too, because we need sustainable and reliable electric power. Solar and wind are disrupters - and to some extent so is NG. NG can provide 24/7 electric power generation - solar and wind can't. NG generation makes for reasonably cheap generating plants, but that also directly competes with NG as an end use like for home heating or potentially to power cars and trucks. None of the nonsensical plans to transition to EVs makes any sense whatsoever without reliable electric power ... and perhaps you've read the grid is already spread too thin and that there may be rolling blackouts over the summer in parts of the country.

If your administration is dedicated to ending the use of fossil fuels, then companies are not going to invest in needed capacity, and they will shut aging and less efficient refineries or generating facilities. THAT is a government policy, and it dictates how corporate and investment communities react. THAT is why we are seeing record prices. THAT is policy that this ridiculous administration has pressed, and THAT is why we are paying through the nose for gas. And, yes, it Russian oil were still flooding the market, it would help the situation ... and further screw our national debt.
So how does Biden make gas 5.35 in Australia, 6.54 in Canada, 7.65 in Italy, 8.48 in Germany....
 
So how does Biden make gas 5.35 in Australia, 6.54 in Canada, 7.65 in Italy, 8.48 in Germany....
By lowering US production and changing the US back from a net exporter to a net importer. To load on the global supply has increased. Yes cutting use of Russian oil hurts the global supply however the idiot in the WH should know that has to be back filled or shortages will ensue. Yet there is a clear trend on this graph and is a direct result of your idiot boy’s policies or lack there of.

Source: EIA.gov

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So how does Biden make gas 5.35 in Australia, 6.54 in Canada, 7.65 in Italy, 8.48 in Germany....

Italy has gas taxes over $3.00 per gallon and a VAT of 21% on its gas. Total taxes per gallon (including VAT) is over $4 in Italy now.

The average tax per gallon in the U.S. is 49 cents (federal and state)
 
So how does Biden make gas 5.35 in Australia, 6.54 in Canada, 7.65 in Italy, 8.48 in Germany....

Petroleum is a global commodity - and make no mistake it is a commodity with prices set in international markets. We had been producing more oil than we were consuming, but for whatever reasons, our oil didn't just stay here, and we import about what we export - apparently refining has something to do with that. Commodity pricing is always about expectations - those expectations are based not just on actual supply and demand, but also on national policies. Of course, without Russia flooding the market with oil there is a change; it would be stupid to think otherwise. Perhaps you heard about the OPEC oil tantrum in the 70s - maybe you don't remember lines and rationing; but, yeah, what other countries do can have global implications, and nobody is arguing otherwise.

What this administration has done from day one is to alienate the petroleum industry with idiotic policy. Remember shutting down the Keystone pipeline by presidential decree virtually on day one - think that wasn't a message? You think telling an industry that the plan is to make them extinct isn't a message? Do you think any industry singled out like that will lift a finger to help once you've declared them a public enemy? Any number of factors in the oil industry could help out - OPEC, but the biden stupidity with Russia and Iran apparently screwed that.

Our real problem doesn't seem to be as much oil supply as refining capacity and having the right oil where it needs to be (that may not be the same problem raising prices in other countries); why would an industry being told it is facing extinction and harmful be willing to lift a finger? There are regulations that could be lifted to help - apparently with marine fuel and shipping bottlenecks, but biden and company are doing nothing to help out. As long as they won't, then investor expectation increases prices and industry isn't going to be friendly - one hand washes the other.
 
I'm confused on something.

Individual liberty and property rights are sacred parts of our national identity. Imminent Domain is a coordinated violation of those inalienable rights through seizure of property without consent.

The Keystone XL included the imminent domain seizure of thousands of acres of land against the wishes of the land owners - a violation of a sacred tenet of our country.

Why are we ok with violating those land owners' inalienable rights in this situation?
 
I'm confused on something.

Individual liberty and property rights are sacred parts of our national identity. Imminent Domain is a coordinated violation of those inalienable rights through seizure of property without consent.

The Keystone XL included the imminent domain seizure of thousands of acres of land against the wishes of the land owners - a violation of a sacred tenet of our country.

Why are we ok with violating those land owners' inalienable rights in this situation?

You ever drove on an interstate?
 
You're struggling big time in this thread. Biden must have a pecan tree you play in and pick from.

Knowing what you are, my only answer to you is that you're a man with an open mind - I can feel the breeze from it even in Oregon through this forum. Talk about a hole in the head and empty minded, boy, that's something.
 
Bull-hockey the market is in turmoil because the far rights' lover boy Putin suckered the West into oil dependency over decades. Then, when he decided to play his hand, blackmailed the USA and Europe while he went on a murder campaign in Ukraine. With the flow cut off in some places, greatly reduced in others, and both Saudi Arabia and Valenzuela unhelpfully snickering at the West's plight, get high prices. You folks want to blame everything on Biden (who I'm not so fond of myself) while ignore any and all other factors. It amazes me how you folks can't be honest to yourselves, due to your inability to see the picture because you're captivated by the frame.
Gas prices were rising long before Ukraine...
 
Gas prices were rising long before Ukraine...

Yes. I lived through the famous Oil Embargo by the Saudis back in the day. It's been rising ever since, no matter which political party was in office. But the latest is due to Russia's Pudding, the stupidity of Western nations willingly placing themselves in a vulnerable dependent position to suckle at the nipples of the Russian pipeline, and cowardly repeating the same idiocracy of the Neville Chamberlain political appeasement.
 
I'm confused on something.

Individual liberty and property rights are sacred parts of our national identity. Imminent Domain is a coordinated violation of those inalienable rights through seizure of property without consent.

The Keystone XL included the imminent domain seizure of thousands of acres of land against the wishes of the land owners - a violation of a sacred tenet of our country.

Why are we ok with violating those land owners' inalienable rights in this situation?
Not a fan of Imminent Domain.

The State should have to pay a premium to take someone’s property. I imagine they barely (if at all) pay market value.
 
Yes. I lived through the famous Oil Embargo by the Saudis back in the day. It's been rising ever since, no matter which political party was in office. But the latest is due to Russia's Pudding, the stupidity of Western nations willingly placing themselves in a vulnerable dependent position to suckle at the nipples of the Russian pipeline, and cowardly repeating the same idiocracy of the Neville Chamberlain political appeasement.
Biden told us he was going to do this…. Signed several executive orders reversing Trump’s favorable gas policies… bragged that this was god for the climate…. Tried to reverse some of his previous policies to help reduce costs…. When does he get any of the blame?
 
I'm confused on something.

Individual liberty and property rights are sacred parts of our national identity. Imminent Domain is a coordinated violation of those inalienable rights through seizure of property without consent.

The Keystone XL included the imminent domain seizure of thousands of acres of land against the wishes of the land owners - a violation of a sacred tenet of our country.

Why are we ok with violating those land owners' inalienable rights in this situation?

Who/how many people had their land seized? We have a NG pipeline running through a section of our land back in VA, we still own the land and got paid for the pipeline to come through.
 
Biden told us he was going to do this…. Signed several executive orders reversing Trump’s favorable gas policies… bragged that this was god for the climate…. Tried to reverse some of his previous policies to help reduce costs…. When does he get any of the blame?


Oh, Biden gets plenty of blame from Trump cultists. And even independent voters like me. You see, as I've stated here often, I don't trust any politician. They will say and do anything for your vote and money, all while snickering at us behind our backs and playing us for suckers. None of them really give a flying fig about anything but leeching our money and staying in power. Sadly, citizens get sucked into slogans, we vs. them bias, and other male bovine manure so much we can't or even refuse to see the real game. Politics is nothing more than the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies.
 
I'm confused on something.

Individual liberty and property rights are sacred parts of our national identity. Imminent Domain is a coordinated violation of those inalienable rights through seizure of property without consent.

The Keystone XL included the imminent domain seizure of thousands of acres of land against the wishes of the land owners - a violation of a sacred tenet of our country.

Why are we ok with violating those land owners' inalienable rights in this situation?
There are pipelines running all over the country. Most are underground. But the ones above ground do not typically make a property unusable. I also understand owners are compensated by the company.

Unfortunately you're thinking about imminent domain and how it used to be. The Supreme Court took a massive dump on ID several years ago by ruling against owners in Florida. They ruled increased taxes (via condo development) to a locality are enough to ID owners.
 
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Knowing what you are, my only answer to you is that you're a man with an open mind - I can feel the breeze from it even in Oregon through this forum. Talk about a hole in the head and empty minded, boy, that's something.

I'm just messing with you. Don't be so sensitive. It's up to you why you are a Biden voter and proud of it. You can stick it to America any time you want.
 
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