National Debt Hits $30T

Heh. Well good to know ol' McDad knows more than Nobel Laureate economists. We're certainly lucky to have you around.

Anytime you'd like to bring school back in session for us, I'll be here. :cool:
Yeah man. I'm really out on a limb since at no point in human history have "experts" been wrong.

I will literally share your errors, my opinions, and my experience with mortgages with anyone but you.
 
Yeah man. I'm really out on a limb since at no point in human history have "experts" been wrong.

I will literally share your errors, my opinions, and my experience with mortgages with anyone but you.

Shame. But I don't blame you. Losing arguments would bruise your ego.
 
As subtle as a child's tantrum in the aisle of the store.
About as effective with me, too.

To dumb things down for you, around 5% of our federal budget covers our debt interest.

In comparison, the average American household spends about 14% per year on debt interest.

Thus, if you think our public sector federal government's debt is too high, then just remember that private sector citizens are nearly 3x worse.

Your welcome.
 
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What’s the Ideal Debt-to-Income Ratio for Mortgages?

Ideal Debt-to-Income Ratio for Mortgages

While 43% is the maximum debt-to-income ratio set by FHA guidelines for homebuyers, you could benefit from having a lower ratio. The ideal debt-to-income ratio for aspiring homeowners is at or below 36%.

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Per my prior post, If you make $100K, you can buy a $600K house and have a debt-to-income ratio of 36%.

This is wrong in so many ways.

1. 43% is not the maximum debt ratio. That only applies to manually underwritten loans. 95+% of loans are run through an automated underwriting system. This system allows for much higher debt ratios- up to 55% DTI depending on factors such as credit score, reserves, etc.

2. FHA loan limit, unless in a high-cost area, is $420,000.

3. A sales price of $600,000 in a non high-cost loan area would require this transaction to be treated as a Jumbo loan. Normally jumbo loans require a 20% down payment. Some lenders will allow as little as a 10% down payment depending on credit score and debt ratio.

4. Up until about 15 years ago, FHA was not he dominant player in the mortgage market. They are now, as they allow for this much higher debt to income ratios which keeps the housing market rolling.

5. Conventional loans (Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae) have a maximum debt ratio of 45%

6. You do realize these debt ratios are based on gross income, not net income.

7. To not be house poor, you should stick with the ratios that were used before 2000. Those we based off of net income not gross income. Back then, anything with over a 40-45% net income debt ratio was considered risky.

8. Please, please stop getting your information from the likes of Trulia or Zillow.
 
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To dumb things down for you, around 5% of our federal budget covers our debt interest.

In comparison, the average American household spends about 14% per year on debt interest.

Thus, if you think our public sector federal government's debt is too high, then just remember that private sector citizens are nearly 3x worse.

Your welcome.
Inspiring. Truly.
My brain is feasting on this brilliance.
 
Won’t be long we’ll be under the Chinese flag thanks to the corrupt politicians
 
Yeah well my Masters in Economics trumps your GED in Home Economics 8 days a week, Junior. :D
Oh there's no doubt. You have humiliated me in this thread with all your masterful analogies and sound reasoning. In fact, I enjoyed very much the one link you provided. I was especially intrigued where your link destroyed your original opinion.
 
Oh there's no doubt. You have humiliated me in this thread with all your masterful analogies and sound reasoning. In fact, I enjoyed very much the one link you provided. I was especially intrigued where your link destroyed your original opinion.

Boy he sure smoked you. Bow down to his brilliance!
 
Boy he sure smoked you. Bow down to his brilliance!
I feel dominated.
It's concerning when a rube like me can see so many holes in his ideas when the guy with the "masters in economics" can't.
 
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I feel dominated.
It's concerning when a rube like me can see so many holes in his ideas when the guy with the "masters in economics" can't.

I understand your frustration. Come back anytime you wanna try to use your new 'big boy words' to debate. Buh bye now.

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Until we hit a massive depression due to spending, no one is going to care, sadly. Even then people will try to find other things to blame and pretend it wasn’t due to the spending/debt.

It’s a hopeless situation
 
Until we hit a massive depression due to spending, no one is going to care, sadly. Even then people will try to find other things to blame and pretend it wasn’t due to the spending/debt.

It’s a hopeless situation

Odds are we will never have to repay our federal debt principal.
 
Ah-hem. Hate to interject here, but we are now at $34Trillion.....only two years after this thread was started. We are utterly stupid as a govt. and country to allow this.
 

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