n_huffhines
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Having whining to the refs, wanting fouls, flopping, etc. on that list means you really must hate almost every single NBA player.
Someone said "You're a fan, so you ignore his 'flaws.'" Well, you hate the guy, so you emphasize any little annoyance. Just by definition, every player in the NBA does this. Every single one.
There's a big difference. I'm not a big hater, though, so maybe I'm just different. New England is the last team I want to see win, but even though they've had douches like Harrison, I don't hate the individual players. You basically have to commit a heinous act on the field for me to hate you.
If I hated athletes for personal differences (being arrogant, voicing political opinions, off the field troubles, etc) then there would almost be no athletes left to admire. I admire them for what they do on the field. That is all.
There's a big difference. I'm not a big hater, though, so maybe I'm just different. New England is the last team I want to see win, but even though they've had douches like Harrison, I don't hate the individual players. You basically have to commit a heinous act on the field for me to hate you.
If I hated athletes for personal differences (being arrogant, voicing political opinions, off the field troubles, etc) then there would almost be no athletes left to admire. I admire them for what they do on the field. That is all.
Are you a fan of the Heat's rival? Or do you just hate LeBron, no matter who he plays for?
Are you a fan of the Heat's rival? Or do you just hate LeBron, no matter who he plays for?
He reserved a full hour of primetime television in order to tell the world where he was "taking his talents"...then he declared that he'd win 8 or 9 NBA titles.
He did those things. Not his critics. Him.
Then he shat all over himself in the Finals. He was a bum for 5 straight games.
He deserves the criticism. When he leads his team to a title, he'll deserve the praise.
Well you either hate him personally, or you hate his game? Which is it? Maybe you hate him for the team(s) he's played on, but I doubt it.
The first part just isn't true because he does it at a much higher rate and he fakes them completely. A lot of players don't complain after 50% of their missed shots and a lot of players don't pretend like they were hit when they weren't even touched. They might embellish but they don't flat out fake it.
And if that's how you want to look at the second part, go for it. But it just means you're in the 10-20% portion according ESPN and CBS polls and that was over 50,000 people voting. So, don't act like I'm the only one that feels this way about Lebron because essentially everybody does except for Lebron/Heat fans. And people can't say it's because they hate winners...
Jesus, somebody gets it.
I hate the Yankess, therefore hate A-Rod, when A-Rod played for Seattle and Texas, I was indifferent, he didn't matter to me, now that he plays for New York, i don't like him, if he were to get traded to another team right now, I would go back to being indifferent on him.
I put him in the same category I put u of m football. I root for the team that is playing against them every week.
I guess the bigger question in all of this is, why does it automatically turn into hate just because you are rooting against someone?
It doesn't, and just cause you root agianst him doesn't mean you fall into that category of people who expect a guy who throws a ball at a hoop for a living to be some outstanding human being.
He plays basketball for a living, he isn't a politician or a church leader or someone that society holds in a higher regard from a moral standpoint.
I have one final question.
Why are Lebron fans arguing it's stupid to hate him or arguing that you shouldn't hate him?
I haven't seen anyone argue that it's stupid for you guys to like Lebron or argue that you should stop liking Lebron.
We just don't like him. Nothing can be said by you guys to change our minds about him. At this point, Lebron himself would struggle to change our minds about him. I don't care if you like him... but I'm not going to.
It doesn't, and just cause you root agianst him doesn't mean you fall into that category of people who expect a guy who throws a ball at a hoop for a living to be some outstanding human being.
He plays basketball for a living, he isn't a politician or a church leader or someone that society holds in a higher regard from a moral standpoint.
It doesn't, and just cause you root agianst him doesn't mean you fall into that category of people who expect a guy who throws a ball at a hoop for a living to be some outstanding human being.
He plays basketball for a living, he isn't a politician or a church leader or someone that society holds in a higher regard from a moral standpoint.
Do you hate Notre Dame, Ohio State, Duke, North Carolina etc.?
Surely you hate some non-rival teams of Tennessee but why if they have nothing to do with Tennessee? Do you hate Pryor? Reggie Bush? Favre? Ryan Leaf? Barry Bonds?
He does it at the same rate as almost every star in the NBA. They all whine, moan, and groan for every potential call to go their way. LeBron included.
I have always liked LeBron and thought he got too much hate... and my roommate is a hugeeeee LeBron fan... but after watching the finals even we were kind of just sick of it. Not even with off the court stuff, just watching him play all series had us both thoroughly annoyed. He was never my favorite player/athlete by any means, but I didn't think he deserved the overall hate that he got.
If the hate is directed at disappearing in the finals, then yeah, he has earned that now. But (not saying people here)... other people acting like he's the worst guy on earth for going to Miami, or for whatever reason, got real, real, real old.
what I was really asking was, did someone actually say in here that they hate him or did you LBJ lovers just jump on his side when he called people who rooted against the Heat haters? I'm just saying that I didn't read everything in here so I don't know if someone actually used that word.
I'm indifferent on those teams cause they have no effect on the team(s) I pull for.
None of the players you mentioned mean anything to me, if Bonds played for New York he would be right up there with A-rod, since he didn't, I don't care about him.
Disagree with last part. He is someone people hold to a higher moral standpoint because kids look up to them and pretend to be them when they play outside ( some kids at least still play outside). It's not just lebron either. It's Dwight, Kobe, Jordan, Chris Paul etc. They are held to higher morals by the common fan because of that. Is it fair? Debatable. But it is what it is.
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I have one final question.
Why are Lebron fans arguing it's stupid to hate him or arguing that you shouldn't hate him?
I haven't seen anyone argue that it's stupid for you guys to like Lebron or argue that you should stop liking Lebron.
We just don't like him. Nothing can be said by you guys to change our minds about him. At this point, Lebron himself would struggle to change our minds about him. I don't care if you like him... but I'm not going to.
what I was really asking was, did someone actually say in here that they hate him or did you LBJ lovers just jump on his side when he called people who rooted against the Heat haters? I'm just saying that I didn't read everything in here so I don't know if someone actually used that word.