NCAA National Championship game

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SDV said:
I’m actually good with 4. If we expand to 8, next it will be 16. There will always be a team or two from outside looking in, but if you win during the regular season at the right time you’re in. I say leave it to 4
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Then don't expand to 16. We shouldn't keep it to 4 if 8 is better, just because we don't like the idea of 16. That makes no sense.

But why not 16? Get rid of some garbage regular season games and expand the playoff. Who cares if Bama can beat Louisiana Monroe like a drum?
 
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Vol8188 said:
I agree. That's not how this works. No one is asking for a participation trophy, just a chance to participate.
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UCF is definitively not one of the top teams in the country. Would get eaten alive by any of the Playoff teams, along with #5 OSU and #6 Wisconsin.

There are no sympathy votes for UCF. Schedule harder teams besides the Georgia Tech's of the world.

No reason they can't schedule an ACC or SEC team. The only reason they don't is because they demand a Home and Home series. They need the big league teams more than big league teams need them.

The fact they went thru with a Natty parade just shows how stupid they are.
 
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Grand Vol said:
I'd prefer they do away with early signing personally.
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I have mixed feelings about it, could go either way right now.

But even without the early signing period, extending the season 3 more weeks would hamper a coach on the move. Maybe I'm overreacting, no non-P5 coach would make it past the first round.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
UCF is definitively not one of the top teams in the country. Would get eaten alive by any of the Playoff teams, along with #5 OSU and #6 Wisconsin.

There are no sympathy votes for UCF. Schedule harder teams besides the Georgia Tech's of the world.

No reason they can't schedule an ACC or SEC team. The only reason they don't is because they demand a Home and Home series. They need the big league teams more than big league teams need them.

The fact they went thru with a Natty parade just shows how stupid they are.
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You're welcome to be wrong and extremely arrogant about it, I guess. Still doesn't make you any less wrong.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
UCF is definitively not one of the top teams in the country. Would get eaten alive by any of the Playoff teams, along with #5 OSU and #6 Wisconsin.

There are no sympathy votes for UCF. Schedule harder teams besides the Georgia Tech's of the world.

No reason they can't schedule an ACC or SEC team. The only reason they don't is because they demand a Home and Home series. They need the big league teams more than big league teams need them.

The fact they went thru with a Natty parade just shows how stupid they are.
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GT is an ACC team and typically a dangerous one. You're so wrong about so many things.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Then don't expand to 16. We shouldn't keep it to 4 if 8 is better, just because we don't like the idea of 16. That makes no sense.

But why not 16? Get rid of some garbage regular season games and expand the playoff. Who cares if Bama can beat Louisiana Monroe like a drum?
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Why is 8 better? So we can let some teams that shouldn’t be there have a chance?
 
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SDV said:
Disagree. Undefeated teams that don’t play anyone in the regular season don’t deserve an automatic bid.

UCF strength of schedule hinders move up in College Football Playoff rankings - Orlando Sentinel
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You make your schedule, what, 4 years in advance? Your strength of schedule argument is weak. The head coach couldn't effect that. Nor could the players. Why should they be punished?

If you go undefeated, you deserve a chance. At 8 times you can give any undefeated team a chance and still have the top 5-7 power teams every year.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Then don't expand to 16. We shouldn't keep it to 4 if 8 is better, just because we don't like the idea of 16. That makes no sense.

But why not 16? Get rid of some garbage regular season games and expand the playoff. Who cares if Bama can beat Louisiana Monroe like a drum?
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I haven't seen anything to suggest 8 is better.
 
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SDV said:
Why is 8 better? So we can let some teams that shouldn’t be there have a chance?
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I said "if" it's better, then 16 isn't a reason to say no to 8.

From the perspective of fans, I would say 8 is obviously better because the quality of all 8 teams will be high and more games means more fun.
 
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n_huffhines said:
To what rule? Name one coach who has left a playoff team?
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No mid major has ever made the playoff in its 4 seasons. However, look at the last mid majors that made BCS Bowls.

Dave Doeren left NIU, leaving an interim to coach vs FSU resulting in a blowout.

Brian Kelly left Cincy for Notre Dame, leaving an interim to coach vs Florida resulting in a blowout.

Big primetime schools will not let their new coach hang around and coach anywhere from 1 to 3 games instead of hitting the recruiting trail for the early signing period.
 
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hog88 said:
Undefeated in the Sunbelt doesn't make a team worthy.
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How often does that happen? Once every 3 years a lower team goes undefeated? Give them a chance. This team was worthy and their win over auburn proves that
 
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JMSqb11 said:
UCF is definitively not one of the top teams in the country. Would get eaten alive by any of the Playoff teams, along with #5 OSU and #6 Wisconsin.

There are no sympathy votes for UCF. Schedule harder teams besides the Georgia Tech's of the world.

No reason they can't schedule an ACC or SEC team. The only reason they don't is because they demand a Home and Home series. They need the big league teams more than big league teams need them.

The fact they went thru with a Natty parade just shows how stupid they are.
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You don’t know this. You are stating opinion as if it is fact and the underdog always loses. Sometimes the underdog wins.

This has nothing to do with a “participation trophy” nonsense you trot out. It has to do with the chance to participate.

As a statement of fact, we have no idea if UCF would have lost in the first round of an 8 team playoff. Most of us, including me, think it is highly unlikely. But none of us knows, including you. You play it on the field, not in a board room with 13 people.
 
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Vol8188 said:
You couldn't be more wrong. UCF beat the one team who beat Georgia and Alabama.

Expand to 8 and given any undefeated team an automatic bid
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So you fell for the UCF hype huh? Yeah they beat the one team that beat both but that team also lost to a team that lost to Troy so that crap doesn't play out for them at all. You can't pick and choose which "transitive theory of relativity" teams to support. UCF should have played a decent team during the season and no, Memphis doesn't qualify. They could have rescheduled the GT game and tried that out but they didn't. They had Texas in there but pushed that out for years. Them not getting in the playoff is their own damn fault.
 
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Vol8188 said:
You make your schedule, what, 4 years in advance? Your strength of schedule argument is weak. The head coach couldn't effect that. Nor could the players. Why should they be punished?

If you go undefeated, you deserve a chance. At 8 times you can give any undefeated team a chance and still have the top 5-7 power teams every year.
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I think you just pointed out the problem with your proposal. Once you say any undefeated team is in, the UCFs of the world would stop playing P5 schools and the P5 schools would stop playing strong teams out of their conference.
 
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Vol8188 said:
You make your schedule, what, 4 years in advance? Your strength of schedule argument is weak. The head coach couldn't effect that. Nor could the players. Why should they be punished?

If you go undefeated, you deserve a chance. At 8 times you can give any undefeated team a chance and still have the top 5-7 power teams every year.
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Teams can back out of schedules all the time. In UCF's case, most bigger schools like Georgia Tech pay them for the game. Schools back out of schedules and reschedule other opponents pretty often. UCF loves to use the "they won't schedule us line" but that's merely a talking point. They could easily schedule any team they want. The true reason they don't is that they feel entitled to a home and home series when the bigger schools don't have to.
 
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JMSqb11 said:
No mid major has ever made the playoff in its 4 seasons. However, look at the last mid majors that made BCS Bowls.

Dave Doeren left NIU, leaving an interim to coach vs FSU resulting in a blowout.

Brian Kelly left Cincy for Notre Dame, leaving an interim to coach vs Florida resulting in a blowout.

Big primetime schools will not let their new coach hang around and coach anywhere from 1 to 3 games instead of hitting the recruiting trail for the early signing period.
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How do you not get that this is totally irrelevant to what would happen if a mid-major made the playoff?
 
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TDawg said:
So you fell for the UCF hype huh? Yeah they beat the one team that beat both but that team also lost to a team that lost to Troy so that crap doesn't play out for them at all. You can't pick and choose which "transitive theory of relativity" teams to support. UCF should have played a decent team during the season and no, Memphis doesn't qualify. They could have rescheduled the GT game and tried that out but they didn't. They had Texas in there but pushed that out for years. Them not getting in the playoff is their own damn fault.
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You know those schedules are made 4-5 years in advance. Prior to Frost coming in. This "they should schedule tougher teams" is a dumb argument. The tougher teams don't want to play them and the coach nor players determined the schedule. Why punish them?

They went undefeated. Give them a chance. What does it hurt? Why do you guys take giving an undefeated team a chance so personal?
 
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Vol8188 said:
How often does that happen? Once every 3 years a lower team goes undefeated? Give them a chance. This team was worthy and their win over auburn proves that
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It doesn't happen often because those teams often play a P5 school or two for cash every year.
 
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