NCAA National Championship game

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Vol8188 said:
There should never be an undefeated team on the outside looking in. At 8 you can fix that. Automatic bids for any undefeated teams
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If you use that theory, teams in the Big10, Pac12 and AAC will have ZERO motivation to schedule big out of conference games .. just beat the crap out of your lousy conference and you're in!
 
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n_huffhines said:
How do you not get that this is totally irrelevant to what would happen if a mid-major made the playoff?
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Those mid majors making BCS bowls resulted in them getting scooped up by bigger schools. The playoff will only magnify said coaches even more that to make a splash for the early signing period.

Nebraska had such a boy crush on Frost, and rightfully so, that they would have hired him under any condition.

If a mid major/G5 school makes the playoff, they would be the #8 seed. The best G5/mid major school is upsetting the #1 team in the country. That's a fact. Especially in the playoff. Especially when the G5 school is going against the Saban's, Meyer's, Dabo's of the world with an interim coach.
 
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hog88 said:
It doesn't happen often because those teams often play a P5 school or two for cash every year.
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Unless they're a team the power 5 wants nothing to do with. Neither the players nor coach has control over their schedule. Nor should they be punished for it.

If you expand to 8 you give them a chance without hurting anyone.
 
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The FBS Playoff is the smallest championship postseason at any major level of football, dwarfed by the field sizes in the FCS, Division II, Division III, and pretty much all high school systems. Even the NFL puts in 12 teams. In that context, it’s wild that major college didn’t have more than a two-team playoff until 2014.
 
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Vol8188 said:
You know those schedules are made 4-5 years in advance. Prior to Frost coming in. This "they should schedule tougher teams" is a dumb argument. The tougher teams don't want to play them and the coach nor players determined the schedule. Why punish them?

They went undefeated. Give them a chance. What does it hurt? Why do you guys take giving an undefeated team a chance so personal?
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You're making my point and YES, I know they are made 4-5 years in advance in most cases unless a team drops out of a game like UCF did to Texas. So when Frost wasn't there and they were just a mediocre team, they should have been able to get any of the big Florida teams on the schedule they wanted. There is zero excuse for a team that wants recognition to not be scheduling bigger teams. I hate Notre Dame but they will put anyone on the schedule whether they are good or not. They could easily, with no conference affiliation, just schedule a bunch of garbage teams.
 
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TDawg said:
If you use that theory, teams in the Big10, Pac12 and AAC will have ZERO motivation to schedule big out of conference games .. just beat the crap out of your lousy conference and you're in!
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None of those conferences are lousy. But sure. Go undefeated and you get a chance.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Unless they're a team the power 5 wants nothing to do with. Neither the players nor coach has control over their schedule. Nor should they be punished for it.

If you expand to 8 you give them a chance without hurting anyone.
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Coaches are very hands on with schedules. You not follow a lot of football if you think coaches don't.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Unless they're a team the power 5 wants nothing to do with. Neither the players nor coach has control over their schedule. Nor should they be punished for it.

If you expand to 8 you give them a chance without hurting anyone.
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Coaches have a ton of say on who they schedule.

I'm pretty certain these top tier G5 schools would stop playing up in the regular season for a shot at the playoffs.
 
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What's more likely? We end up with a conference champ who doesn't belong or an undefeated team who doesn't belong?

I say just go back to the BCS rankings and take those 8.
 
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hog88 said:
Coaches have a ton of say on who they schedule.

I'm pretty certain these top tier G5 schools would stop playing up in the regular season for a shot at the playoffs.
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You're missing the point. How long was frost the coach and how far out are schedules made? The answer? Longer than the 2 years he was there
 
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Vol8188 said:
You're missing the point. How long was frost the coach and how far out are schedules made? The answer? Longer than the 2 years he was there
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The exception doesn't make the rule. Didn't UCF drop Texas while Frost was there?
 
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TDawg said:
You're making my point and YES, I know they are made 4-5 years in advance in most cases unless a team drops out of a game like UCF did to Texas. So when Frost wasn't there and they were just a mediocre team, they should have been able to get any of the big Florida teams on the schedule they wanted. There is zero excuse for a team that wants recognition to not be scheduling bigger teams. I hate Notre Dame but they will put anyone on the schedule whether they are good or not. They could easily, with no conference affiliation, just schedule a bunch of garbage teams.
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They weren't a lousy team.

Before the 0-12 season when George O'Leary was basically running out the clock for his paycheck, he had a team that went 31-9 from 2012-2014. UCF was hardly a horrible team before Frost got there. They went 0-12 because O'Leary pulled a Spurrier and just quit coaching and just roamed the sidelines. UCF refuses year in and year out to schedule bigger, better teams. And yes, coaches do have a say on their schedules.
 
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UCF this year, finished #75 out of 130 Strength of Schedule

Now per, Simple Rating System; a rating that takes into account average point differential and strength of schedule...they finished #10 out of 130.
 
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Let's be honest:

If UCF had scheduled and beat Auburn in the regular season none of you would actually change your stance right now about them. So let's not pretend it's about scheduling
 
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Vol8188 said:
Frost made UCF's schedule while at Oregon? I didn't know that!
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Schedules change all the time. And yes schedules can change as close as a year out before the season. This stuff happens all the time. Once again, you must not follow an ounce of football if you think schedules can't and don't change and if coaches don't have a hand in their schedules as close as a year or two away.
 
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Vol8188 said:
Let's be honest:

If UCF had scheduled and beat Auburn in the regular season none of you would actually change your stance right now about them. So let's not pretend it's about scheduling
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UCF this year, finished #75 out of 130 Strength of Schedule
 
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