NCAA tells Auburn "We aren't finished with you yet."

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rockytop9808 said:
Did he go to a division I school?

Because everyone I know involved with a division I program ("major" or not) gets so much free swag the only other clothes they need are dressy ones.
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He went to Tusculum. Full scholarship. Ended up getting drafted by the Diamondback organization.
 
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GoVols2003 said:
I was a student trainer at TN and got tons of free clothes. Literally, I gave stuff away at the time bc I had so much. If they are a at big program, they get plenty.

Some of the athletes (especially football and baasketball players) do actually live better than some college kids. I remember seeing kids (ones that came from low income families) get 7-10K back per semester. They had a full scholarship, then qualified for different grants like pell and what not. Not all are going to be that fortunate, but it was a good number of them that I remember. Your going to get at least 1-2 free meals per day in addition. That is living better than a lot of college kids.
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Agreed. I made 3-5k/ year working. I found money to catch a movie occasionally. If I had gotten 7-10k back in grant money, I would have lived like a king compared to what I did. I was willing to sacrifice entertainment and luxury those years in order to receive my education and reap the benefits later in life.
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JayVols said:
Agreed. I made 3-5k/ year working. I found money to catch a movie occasionally. If I had gotten 7-10k back in grant money, I would have lived like a king compared to what I did. I was willing to sacrifice entertainment and luxury those years in order to receive my education and reap the benefits later in life.
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Last time I checked, you had the luxury of working. Athletes don't have the same amount of time you did, you know, between school, practices and working out.
 
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JayVols said:
Tusculum gives full athletic rides? I live near there. Was he a local kid?
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Yep. Morristown. Eric Butler. Drafted by the Diamondbacks in the 40th round or something.

Article on him:

Game 1: Tusculum 3, Newberry 0
In a classic pitchers' duel, Tusculum's Eric Butler (Morristown, Tenn.) tossed a two-hit shutout as the Pioneers won the opener 3-0. TC made the most of its five hits, but scored the first run without one.
Butler and Newberry starter Billy Alm (Pine Plains, N.Y.) locked up in a battle as Butler retired the first 10 Indians he would face before giving up a one-out single to Ryan Easterby (Charleston, S.C.) in the fourth inning. Alm was just as dominant as he held the Pioneers hitless through the first six innings.
Newberry had a golden opportunity to get on the board in the fifth inning when Dustin Smith (Conway, S.C.) drew a lead-off walk, stole second and moved to third on a throwing error with no outs. Butler got out of the jam with back-to-back strikeouts and a ground out stranding Smith at third base.
Tusculum manufactured a run in its half of the fifth when Aaron Frye (Lebanon, Tenn.) led off with a walk and moved all the way to third on a ground out by Mike Calano (Suwanee, Ga.). Frye would score the first run of the day on Adam Beacham's (Atlanta, Ga.) sacrifice fly. The Pioneers had a chance to increase their lead in the sixth when Adam Hicks (Bristol, Tenn.) drew a walk and Robbie Bouman (Sterling, Va.) thwarted Alm's no-hit bid with a double down the left field line. But Hicks was thrown out when he overran third base and was caught in a rundown for the first out of the inning. Alm got out of the inning with a strikeout and fly out to keep the score 1-0.
The Pioneers added a pair of insurance runs in the eighth inning off of reliever Chris Griffin (Cayce, S.C.). Sophomore Josh Wolff (Louisville, Ky.) led off with a walk and moved to second on a sacrifice bunt. Wolff moved up 90 feet on Bouman's bloop single down the right field line. Wolff scored the second run of the game on Guy O'Connell's (Perth, Australia) RBI single and Bouman would later cross the plate on Skip Talarek's (Great Falls, Va.) run-scoring single to provide the final margin.
Butler walked one and struck out five to improve his record to 2-3 while tossing his second straight complete game victory. Alm pitched well in the loss, allowing one run, two hits, four walks and seven strikeouts in his seven innings of wor
 
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stevenharvey11 said:
Last time I checked, you had the luxury of working. Athletes don't have the same amount of time you did, you know, between school, practices and working out.
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I only worked at a manufacturing plant in the summer. Try again.
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By the way, I'm really done. Please quit talking about it. You saying how high your morals are on the computer is about like saying how tough you are. Doesn't matter. Anyone can be an internet tough guy, just like anyone can have the highest morals. To each their own.



If As The Plains Burn is true, I would hate to be Auburn.
 
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D2 athletes still can work in the offseason and summer. Eating ramen noodles was his choice. That cafeteria was open and if he was on the road he was getting fed on Tusculum's dollar.

No pity.

Maybe some people react this way because they've been there.
 
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stevenharvey11 said:
By the way, I'm really done. Please quit talking about it. You saying how high your morals are on the computer is about like saying how tough you are. Doesn't matter. Anyone can be an internet tough guy, just like anyone can have the highest morals. To each their own.



If As The Plains Burn is true, I would hate to be Auburn.
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Where in the world did anyone say they wouldn't take $200k?

Your argument is bunk because you're trying to use a DII athlete to represent a DI situation, and to top it all off you're trying to force some kind of moral idea on everyone here. You're off your rocker.
 
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stevenharvey11 said:
East
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Not as familiar with East as West. I know a West former coach, Danny Clark. I think he coached at Tusculum too. Come to think of it, I think it was Milligan. He's now with the Rangers organization in charge of their entire minor league pitching program.
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stevenharvey11 said:
By the way, I'm really done. Please quit talking about it. You saying how high your morals are on the computer is about like saying how tough you are. Doesn't matter. Anyone can be an internet tough guy, just like anyone can have the highest morals. To each their own.



If As The Plains Burn is true, I would hate to be Auburn.
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I really am not trying to be high and mighty morally. Just being honest. I will respect your wishes and drop it.


HSVol said:
D2 athletes still can work in the offseason and summer. Eating ramen noodles was his choice. That cafeteria was open and if he was on the road he was getting fed on Tusculum's dollar.

No pity.

Maybe some people react this way because they've been there.
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I have been there.
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rockytop9808 said:
Your argument is bunk because you're trying to use a DII athlete to represent a DI situation
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Yes.

And, if you're going to further the discussion, don't get butt-hurt when people react. No one threatened anyone here like "internet tough guys." Your logic was questioned and that's about it. Especially those of us that have been in the same position and wish no pity. It was our choice. I'll drop it too.

Good for him for getting drafted.
 
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rockytop9808 said:
Where in the world did anyone say they wouldn't take $200k?

Your argument is bunk because you're trying to use a DII athlete to represent a DI situation, and to top it all off you're trying to force some kind of moral idea on everyone here. You're off your rocker.
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No I'm pretty sure multiple people have said they wouldn't do it, and stated morals as the reason. Go back and read. I stated that student athletes sometimes struggle. Everyone rushed to say they don't. I provided an example. I will say some don't. I personally knew Albert Haynesworth while he was at UT. He didn't struggle. He drove a nice Lincoln Navigator. Some do struggle. Bottom line. If someone is struggling, then I won't be the one to shake my finger at them if they accept a lot of money from a shady agent. Especially when the University knows about it.
 
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stevenharvey11 said:
No I'm pretty sure multiple people have said they wouldn't do it, and stated morals as the reason. Go back and read. I stated that student athletes sometimes struggle. Everyone rushed to say they don't. I provided an example. I will say some don't. I personally knew Albert Haynesworth while he was at UT. He didn't struggle. He drove a nice Lincoln Navigator. Some do struggle. Bottom line. If someone is struggling, then I won't be the one to shake my finger at them if they accept a lot of money from a shady agent. Especially when the University knows about it.
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You used a guy at Tusculum as an example.

Tusculum is no Auburn. Nor is it a Tennessee, nor is it even a San Jose State. Your example is completely inapplicable. Besides, don't DII athletes have less stringent rules on working than DI athletes?
 
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JayVols said:
Not as familiar with East as West. I know a West former coach, Danny Clark. I think he coached at Tusculum too. Come to think of it, I think it was Milligan. He's now with the Rangers organization in charge of their entire minor league pitching program.
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Awesome. This has been like 7 years ago since he played there.
 
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rockytop9808 said:
You used a guy at Tusculum as an example.

Tusculum is no Auburn. Nor is it a Tennessee, nor is it even a San Jose State. Your example is completely inapplicable. Besides, don't DII athletes have less stringent rules on working than DI athletes?
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You are ridiculous. Welcome to ignore.
 
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