Nebraska to Big Ten

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hatvol96 said:
If the OU-Nebraska game was that important, they'd have never stopped playing every year. Division play didn't end the Tennessee-Alabama series. Nebraska was never the biggest game on the OU schedule. That's played in the Cotton Bowl in early October.
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Understood...Tennessee isn't the biggest game on the Alabama schedule either. Just Sayin..

Nebraska and Oklahoma have played each other for national titles and that game has also determined who would play for a national title. Either one or the other..

I know UT and Bama is huge, and I enjoy beating them more than anyone, but to say Neb and Okla. isn't or wasn't a huge rivaly is just plain misinformation... :blink:
 
#77
#77
Also interesting (above link):

Missouri appears to be falling down the list of priorities for the Big Ten.

An athletic director with knowledge of the Big Ten told Orangebloods.com, "Missouri is getting cold shoulder from Big Ten.
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If Nebraska is the only team with a definite escape path it seems the Big 12 could be salvaged. And if the Big 10 only adds Nebraska we might not have realignment Armageddon after all.
 
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#78
While the Big 10 doesn't really get any BETTER by adding Nebraska (are they going to add two more? four more?), it does bring in a monstrous fan base to a conference with a nationwide TV network.

The Pac-10, if they get those six Big XII teams, will be a behemoth and the SEC would be relegated to at least 2nd conference standing in football.

In my opinion, the SEC should expand, but with only two teams and any of FSU/Miami/VT/Clemson would be fine with me.
 
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Velo Vol said:
Also interesting (above link):



If Nebraska is the only team with a definite escape path it seems the Big 12 could be salvaged. And if the Big 10 only adds Nebraska we might not have realignment Armageddon after all.
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This is my thought. To me, it makes more sense for the Big XII to try and add Arkansas or another program than to completely blow up. But what do I know? :banghead2:
 
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Big Orange Bo said:
Understood...Tennessee isn't the biggest game on the Alabama schedule either. Just Sayin..

Nebraska and Oklahoma have played each other for national titles and that game has also determined who would play for a national title. Either one or the other..

I know UT and Bama is huge, and I enjoy beating them more than anyone, but to say Neb and Okla. isn't or wasn't a huge rivaly is just plain misinformation... :blink:
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I'm not the guy you want to debate about what Oklahoma fans do or do not think. That game now is nothing more than a reason to crank up the nostalgia machine and remind the Big Red idiots that Switzer beat Osborne roughly two out of every three times they played. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Outdors21 said:
While the Big 10 doesn't really get any BETTER by adding Nebraska (are they going to add two more? four more?), it does bring in a monstrous fan base to a conference with a nationwide TV network.

The Pac-10, if they get those six Big XII teams, will be a behemoth and the SEC would be relegated to at least 2nd conference standing in football.

In my opinion, the SEC should expand, but with only two teams and any of FSU/Miami/VT/Clemson would be fine with me.
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Would rather stay with the state funded schools. Miami is a private school and presents a few more potential problems in the long run..
 
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hatvol96 said:
I'm not the guy you want to debate about what Oklahoma fans do or do not think. That game now is nothing more than a reason to crank up the nostalgia machine and remind the Big Red idiots that Switzer beat Osborne roughly two out of every three times they played. Nothing more, nothing less.
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I appreciate your opinion though I do not agree...GBO
 
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Outdors21 said:
While the Big 10 doesn't really get any BETTER by adding Nebraska (are they going to add two more? four more?), it does bring in a monstrous fan base to a conference with a nationwide TV network.

The Pac-10, if they get those six Big XII teams, will be a behemoth and the SEC would be relegated to at least 2nd conference standing in football.

In my opinion, the SEC should expand, but with only two teams and any of FSU/Miami/VT/Clemson would be fine with me.
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That the SEC didn't add either Texas or Oklahoma when given the chance is negligent on Slive's part.

That the SEC was neither seriously involved nor were even remotely considered, is nearly criminal.
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#85
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will be interesting to see what this does with the bowls, too. i would think there will be MUCH fewer out of conference regular season games if a huge shift in conferences comes. it should also affect tons of small-market schools since they wouldnt get as much exposure or money for playing with the big guys.
 
#86
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Outdors21 said:
We got Vandy? Why not Miami?

This is a functionally football move, so why not?
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Miami fanbase is very small. Also Private school presidents, as a rule, put MUCH less importance on athletics than academics. History shows that private schools tend to have many more ups and downs with cosistant winning and losing.

Big 12 has Baylor
SEC has Vandy
Big Ten has Northwestern
ACC has Duke,Wake and BC
Pac 10 has no private school
Big East has None ( I think)
Notre Dame hasen't been very good for years

Miami was great in the 80's and good in the 90's but I think that they are the exception rater than the rule..

This is just my opinion, I would just rather have Clemson,FSU or Virginia Tech. JMO thats all...
 
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Well, clearly all of those private schools have more rigorous academic requirements...thats a big part of it...especially in football.

That being said, Miami has still been successful, which tells me they aren't as stringent as others.
 
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Outdors21 said:
Well, clearly all of those private schools have more rigorous academic requirements...thats a big part of it...especially in football.

That being said, Miami has still been successful, which tells me they aren't as stringent as others.
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Would you rather have them over the others...
 
#89
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hatvol96 said:
That's more like it. Don't act as if A&M is anything more than little brother in the backseat hoping big brother lets him play in the game on the schoolyard.
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I'm not. I'm just reminding you that those are the facts and its not my doings. Don't pretend that baylor holds more rank though.
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Big Orange Bo said:
Miami fanbase is very small. Also Private school presidents, as a rule, put MUCH less importance on athletics than academics. History shows that private schools tend to have many more ups and downs with cosistant winning and losing.

Big 12 has Baylor
SEC has Vandy
Big Ten has Northwestern
ACC has Duke,Wake and BC
Pac 10 has no private school
Big East has None ( I think)
Notre Dame hasen't been very good for years

Miami was great in the 80's and good in the 90's but I think that they are the exception rater than the rule..

This is just my opinion, I would just rather have Clemson,FSU or Virginia Tech. JMO thats all...
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Stanford, Rutgers
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#91
Watching ESPN News a few minutes ago. At first they quoted someone saying "The Big 12 is dead." Later they hedged that conclusion somewhat.

Still, how would you like to be Kansas right now?
 
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Big Orange Bo said:
Miami fanbase is very small. Also Private school presidents, as a rule, put MUCH less importance on athletics than academics. History shows that private schools tend to have many more ups and downs with cosistant winning and losing.

Big 12 has Baylor
SEC has Vandy
Big Ten has Northwestern
ACC has Duke,Wake and BC
Pac 10 has no private school
Big East has None ( I think)
Notre Dame hasen't been very good for years

Miami was great in the 80's and good in the 90's but I think that they are the exception rater than the rule..

This is just my opinion, I would just rather have Clemson,FSU or Virginia Tech. JMO thats all...
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The PAC 10 has two private schools.
 
#97
#97
hatvol96 said:
Only if they choose to be. They could add Utah or TCU and nobody would much miss Nebraska. Osborne has allowed his ego to wreck his school's athletic department. They'll be an utter disaster in the Big 10.
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part of me wants to say they'll be happy though making alot more money

but yeah, success wise, not going to lie it's not going to get any better for them over there
 
#98
#98
Somebody wrote today that Nebraska has a longstanding beef with texas but didn't elaborate. Is that the impetus for all this--nebraska and osbourne are pissed that their program has suxed for a decade while texas gets all the spoils, and so the huskers are taking their red toys to a new playground? If nebraska leaves, as is expected, then all hinges on whether texas decides to stay in big 12 or jump to pac 10. I just read that texas and a&m want to hold the big 12 together--but texas will have to be convinced that it won't be losing money. Texas has got a big ego, and it will not want to be perceived as operating in a weakened conference. That is the wedge that the Pac 10 is exploiting.

I agree with others: The Big 12 could add utah and tcu and be just as viable as it was with nebraska--it arguably could be stronger, and those two schools play an exciting brand of football. It might all boil down to calculations about TV deals, really. Texas and OU, from a purely football perspective, have a pretty sweet deal in the big 12 as they are the only 2 big dogs. If they join the pac 10, they'll have to share big dog status with usc--not a big deal, I wouldn't think. A PAC 16 with texas and ou would definitely make life tougher for Kiffin--and that would be a nice thing!

Texas's decision will determine whether this is a small tremor or major earthquake. I have a feeling that once teams start to move--and don't forget ND could go to the big 10 too--feelings of insecurity will rise and it may be hard to stop a major realignment. Hope I'm wrong as I don't think football fans are served too well by mega-conferences.
 
#99
#99
PowerT83 said:
A Beautiful Move: Texas A&M to SEC? -- NCAAFB FanHouse
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Interesting case--I have no idea how plausible.

But assuming (1) a major conference shakeup starts, and (2) Texas is off the board, then if I'm the SEC I target

--Texas A&M
--Missiouri
--Florida State or Miami
--NC State (for many of the same reasons Travis gives for A&M)

Each of those (except the Florida school) would bring in major new TV territory. Plus it would largely maintain the existing geographical balance.
 
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#100
Velo Vol said:
Watching ESPN News a few minutes ago. At first they quoted someone saying "The Big 12 is dead." Later they hedged that conclusion somewhat.

Still, how would you like to be Kansas right now?
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You think they're worried, the AD at Kansas State must be putting back the drinks pretty hard right now
 
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