New Arizona Immigration Law

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Cash Vallin said:
what are you even talking about.............. this law is PURELY about race.... Go to Arizona and see if you're ever questioned about your citizenship status.. YOU WON'T... That's where the problem comes in.
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Your jumping to conclusions that you know absolutely nothing about. You know nothing of what the law says and how it will be inforced. You are just assuming!
 
#52
#52
CountVolcula said:
Because he is a brain-washed juvenile who thinks he knows it all because he's got hair growing on his testes and can type on a keyboard.

Let him get some years under his belt, strap on a gun, and deal with MS-13, Mexican Mafia, Serranos, and the other dozen or so Mexican Drug Cartel gangs bringing drugs and other illegals into this country.

He doesnt have a friggin clue!!
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Neither do you, about Civil Rights
 
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#53
Oldvol75 said:
Your jumping to conclusions that you know absolutely nothing about. You know nothing of what the law says and how it will be inforced. You are just assuming!
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REALLY??????? Use common sense, man. Look out of the small town you live in. There's a bigger world out there.
 
#55
#55
CountVolcula said:
Because he is a brain-washed juvenile who thinks he knows it all because he's got hair growing on his testes and can type on a keyboard.

Let him get some years under his belt, strap on a gun, and deal with MS-13, Mexican Mafia, Serranos, and the other dozen or so Mexican Drug Cartel gangs bringing drugs and other illegals into this country.

He doesnt have a friggin clue!!

Mexico Drug Cartels Send Message of Chaos, Death - washingtonpost.com
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I promise, I've dealt with more gangs, more crime, more immigrants, more races than you've ever thought of dreaming about in your civil-right denying life.
 
#57
#57
Cash Vallin said:
what are you even talking about.............. this law is PURELY about race.... Go to Arizona and see if you're ever questioned about your citizenship status.. YOU WON'T... That's where the problem comes in.
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You just proved my point! You can't even understand when its in print in front of you.
 
#60
#60
does anybody out there that like this bill think they would honestly be questioned from a cop about being a legal citizen if they moved to Arizona?
 
#62
#62
Cash Vallin said:
Just did... You failed
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How? You didnt ask me anything

Ask me where in the Constitution an illegal alien has any protection.

Some of your liberal judges have ruled in cases that illegals have as much right as an American citizen.

Go to Mexico and see if you have the same rights as here. Make sure you tell the Mexican police that you are an Amercian and wantt to see your lawyer.

I laugh at your so-called knowledge of the world. You and others like you, is why this country is in such piss-poor shape.

Strap on that gun and lets see how fast your attitude changes about illegals.
 
#64
#64
CountVolcula said:
How? You didnt ask me anything... Didn't have to

Ask me where in the Constitution an illegal alien has any protection.

Some of your liberal judges have ruled in cases that illegals have as much right as an American citizen.

Go to Mexico and see if you have the same rights as here. Make sure you tell the Mexican police that you are an Amercian and wantt to see your lawyer.

I laugh at your so-called knowledge of the world. You and others like you, is why this country is in such piss-poor shape.

Strap on that gun and lets see how fast your attitude changes about illegals.
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I don't think illegal aliens have rights as US citizens. But US citizens have rights, regardless if somebody of the same race is doing something illegal.
 
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#66
The legislation, sent to the Republican governor by the GOP-led Legislature, makes it a crime under state law to be in the country illegally. It also requires local police officers to question people about their immigration status if there is reason to suspect they are illegal immigrants; allows lawsuits against government agencies that hinder enforcement of immigration laws; and makes it illegal to hire illegal immigrants for day labor or knowingly transport them.

Reasonable cause if you would have bothered to read the entire article.

ps, When you move out of your parents house, you will realize that people have the ability to move to different locations in this country, make yourself a mental note!
 
#67
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Oldvol75 said:
The legislation, sent to the Republican governor by the GOP-led Legislature, makes it a crime under state law to be in the country illegally. It also requires local police officers to question people about their immigration status if there is reason to suspect they are illegal immigrants; allows lawsuits against government agencies that hinder enforcement of immigration laws; and makes it illegal to hire illegal immigrants for day labor or knowingly transport them.

Reasonable cause if you would have bothered to read the entire article.

ps, When you move out of your parents house, you will realize that people have the ability to move to different locations in this country, make yourself a mental note!
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and yet, people have such a narrow view of the world
reasons to suspect... is REALLY broad... and don't fool yourself into thinking this is how the law will be enforced
 
#68
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CountVolcula said:
How? You didnt ask me anything

Ask me where in the Constitution an illegal alien has any protection.

Some of your liberal judges have ruled in cases that illegals have as much right as an American citizen.

Go to Mexico and see if you have the same rights as here. Make sure you tell the Mexican police that you are an Amercian and wantt to see your lawyer.

I laugh at your so-called knowledge of the world. You and others like you, is why this country is in such piss-poor shape.

Strap on that gun and lets see how fast your attitude changes about illegals.
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Interesting that you brought that up.

I took 2 missions trips to Saltillo when I was in high school. We drove across the border on the first trip, and our white youth pastor that was driving our van was pulled over by the policia. Needless to say the conversation was going nowhere til the son of the missionary got to the front of the van to interpret. He basically told us that he pulled us over because our driver did not look like a local. We had a good laugh about it, and moved on down the road.

Its a shame they did not have a law preventing the police from profiling. It would not have been near as funny.
 
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#69
Cash Vallin said:
and yet, people have such a narrow view of the world
reasons to suspect... is REALLY broad... and don't fool yourself into thinking this is how the law will be enforced
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Tell that to the families of people that have been murdered by Illegal Aliens that live on the boarder trying to protect their land. You can cry all you want to about rights, but those that have died rights were taken away from them.
 
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BeecherVol said:
Interesting that you brought that up.

I took 2 missions trips to Saltillo when I was in high school. We drove across the border on the first trip, and our white youth pastor that was driving our van was pulled over by the policia. Needless to say the conversation was going nowhere til the son of the missionary got to the front of the van to interpret. He basically told us that he pulled us over because our driver did not look like a local. We had a good laugh about it, and moved on down the road.

Its a shame they did not have a law preventing the police from profiling. It would not have been near as funny.
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Now have that happen a couple more times......... On top of that, you were in MEXICO. This is the United States. We have basic civil rights
 
#71
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Oldvol75 said:
Tell that to the families of people that have been murdered by Illegal Aliens that live on the boarder trying to protect their land. You can cry all you want to about rights, but those that have died rights were taken away from them.
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I'm not saying that sucks. That's horrible that sort of thing happens. But OUR citizens do that too... White people do that... So I guess that makes it OK to profile you since white people do it??? Murder is a problem from all races in this country, from citizens and illegals. Doesn't give you a right to stand on the foot of people's civil rights because somebody that "looks" like you screwed up.
 
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Cash Vallin said:
Now have that happen a couple more times......... On top of that, you were in MEXICO. This is the United States. We have basic civil rights
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We were so offended that we laughed about it.

That was after being on Mexican back roads for 5 hrs. on 3 hrs sleep.
 
#73
#73
Cash Vallin said:
and yet, people have such a narrow view of the world
reasons to suspect... is REALLY broad... and don't fool yourself into thinking this is how the law will be enforced
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I've been having trouble getting a read on you. On one hand, you have a tread talking about how the private sector is bad and needs to be policed by federal regulators, and now you've got this gem that seems to indicate you realize governmental bodies are prone to the same problems. So which is it? Is the government good or are they bad?
 
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paul1454 said:
I've been having trouble getting a read on you. On one hand, you have a tread talking about how the private sector is bad and needs to be policed by federal regulators, and now you've got this gem that seems to indicate you realize governmental bodies are prone to the same problems. So which is it? Is the government good or are they bad?
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same question???? lmao...

Politics aside, I get a great kick out of both sides arguing about no government involvement on some issues but a lot of government involvement on others....

We're all hypocritical, lol... Lets just go libertarian
 
#75
#75
Cash Vallin said:
I'm not saying that sucks. That's horrible that sort of thing happens. But OUR citizens do that too... White people do that... So I guess that makes it OK to profile you since white people do it??? Murder is a problem from all races in this country, from citizens and illegals. Doesn't give you a right to stand on the foot of people's civil rights because somebody that "looks" like you screwed up.
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Do you even know about the drug wars that are crossing over onto our boarders? Why don't you take a little field trip and see for yourself. There comes a time in life when you have to stand for something that protects you and your family, thats what these people want by passing this law. The right to go out on their own property safely, the right to sleep easy at night, the right to enjoy life without peril. Its easy for you to be offended when you are not there and in that situation. Why not ask someone on the boarder to swap houses with you and you live there for awhile? You may come away with a different point of view.
 
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