New mexico allows killing babies

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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
This, within itself, is a callous statement.

What you're saying is babies don't matter in Israel like they do in America? Really? An Israeli baby is a "who cares?" baby or what are you saying?
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What are you even blathering about? I disagree with Israel or any country doing that, but your point was America pays for it and we don’t
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
Mass graves and the parents can't know where they are?

AND you missed the part where babies up to -one month old- are considered stillborn.

So you're okay with that? You're okay supporting a country like that?
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Ok i disagree with the “parents can’t know where they are” part but they didn’t kill the babies at 1 month old, which is the actual point.

I don’t get what “supporting a country” means in your context. Every country has things to agree and disagree over, doesn’t mean we don’t support our allies, unless you are some anti semite stooge
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
What are you even blathering about? I disagree with Israel or any country doing that, but your point was America pays for it and we don’t
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I'm asking for logic that is consistent. If it's awful for New Mexico, it's awful for Israel.

Do you support giving aid to a country that considers a one month or younger baby NOT YET A HUMAN? It's a pretty simple question. No one can.

Yet I'll wager you support our aid to Israel. Yes or No?
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
I'm asking for logic that is consistent. If it's awful for New Mexico, it's awful for Israel.

Do you support giving aid to a country that considers a one month or younger baby NOT YET A HUMAN? It's a pretty simple question. No one can.

Yet I'll wager you support our aid to Israel. Yes or No?
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You are talking about two separate issues.

I don’t believe it’s right to have abortion as birth control ever.

I support Israel just like I support the US which also allows abortions. Just because you disagree with one issue doesn’t mean you don’t support a democratic ally who is helping fend off the Islamic horde in the Middle East
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Ok i disagree with the “parents can’t know where they are” part but they didn’t kill the babies at 1 month old, which is the actual point.

I don’t get what “supporting a country” means in your context. Every country has things to agree and disagree over, doesn’t mean we don’t support our allies, unless you are some anti semite stooge
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Again, I linked to Trump cutting all kinds of aid to countries because of their treatment of the unborn.

We didn't touch Israel. Nothing. Not a word. Never have, though they have some of the most liberal abortion laws in the world and a DISGUSTING attitude toward the death of infants.

Why? Why give them a pass? Disgusting is disgusting.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
Again, I linked to Trump cutting all kinds of aid to countries because of their treatment of the unborn.

We didn't touch Israel. Nothing. Not a word. Never have, though they have some of the most liberal abortion laws in the world and a DISGUSTING attitude toward the death of infants.

Why? Why give them a pass? Disgusting is disgusting.
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I don’t care what Trump did. I don’t think every third world country needs our money but the 10-15 allies I am ok with supporting even if we disagree with 1-2 things their governments do. we aren’t giving them money for abortions so the two things aren’t even linked.

As for planned parenthood my issue is that they don’t need any type of federal funding because they take in millions a year off of their “trade”. And because they refuse to allow for safe and standard checks of their facilities and staff by the States or Joint Commission and we all know why that is
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
You are talking about two separate issues.

I don’t believe it’s right to have abortion as birth control ever.

I support Israel just like I support the US which also allows abortions. Just because you disagree with one issue doesn’t mean you don’t support a democratic ally who is helping fend off the Islamic horde in the Middle East
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So, essentially you're okay with supporting "some" human rights abuses by countries if it's strategically a good thing to support them?

So it's not about the unborn babies at all? There's not REAL outrage about abortion...... it's just a political thing?

I'm just trying to see if there's a moral compass in your support.
 
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Let me get this straight SOME countries are okay funding abortion because those dead babies are less important than our strategic interest in Israel?

Is that where you're at?
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
So, essentially you're okay with supporting "some" human rights abuses by countries if it's strategically a good thing to support them?

So it's not about the unborn babies at all? There's not REAL outage about abortion...... it's just a political thing?

I'm just trying to see if there's a moral compass in your support.
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So in your opinion we should never support any country (including the US) because they have some human right issues? That eliminates literally every country in the world. 😂 Most people can be intelligent enough to separate the two issues and not just “the JeWz R bAD”. You can call out the evil of abortion and still support the people in those countries
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
Let me get this straight SOME countries are okay funding abortion because those dead babies are less important than our strategic interest in Israel?

Is that where you're at?
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You keep stating the same dumb thing but you can’t grasp in your head simple logic. Let me make it easy for you. Take out your illogical emotional responses.
I can disagree with every country in the world doing things they shouldn’t (including the US) and can call them out for their wrong practices.

AND I can still say those countries deserve support because there are even worse things out there (like Islamic fundamentalists and communism)
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
You keep stating the same dumb thing but you can’t grasp in your head simple logic. Let me make it easy for you. Take out your illogical emotional responses.
I can disagree with every country in the world doing things they shouldn’t (including the US) and can call them out for their wrong practices.

AND I can still say those countries deserve support because there are even worse things out there (like Islamic fundamentalists and communism)
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So it's political. It's not about the killed babies at all.

That's exactly what you just said.

If it's in our political interest, we need not stop our support for a country...... even if they don't consider a one month old child as human.

Got it.

How to Mourn Stillbirth and Neonatal Death - My Jewish Learning
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
And that allows them money to fund domestic programs, like abortion.

It's ILLEGAL for Planned Parenthood to use govt money for abortions, so it would be okay to fund them since they can't?

Why is the logic different for Israel? Why should we let them have the money for defense so they can use other money for disgusting abortions?

It's the same logic. If you give them money for defense, it allows them more money for abortion funding. Easy and obvious logic, as applied to Planned Parenthood.
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If it were up to me I wouldn’t give Israel or any other country any money for the next 50-100 years. Murder is murder regardless of what country it happens in.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
So in your opinion the US should stop supporting our allies in anyway because you may disagree with culture practices?
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It's not any old cultural practice. It's -one month old babies- that aren't considered human.

That's not normal.

If you scroll back, folks were RAILING at some dude here for saying he didn't think a baby was human until birth..... and whatnot.

Now, suddenly, you're fine with giving aid to a country that doesn't think a baby is "born" and "human" up until a month.

Is it wrong to expect a little moral consistency around here?
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
If it were up to me I wouldn’t give Israel or any other country any money for the next 50-100 years. Murder is murder regardless of what country it happens in.
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Without our aid, Israel falls (with the help of either Russia or China) within 10 years. It's in the advantage of the communists to support the Muslim extremists because Islamic extremists destabilize MANY countries, but not their countries.

As the US fights Islamic growth, the communists sit back and let us spend huge on war (see Iraq/Afghanistan) and they wait for the economic shoe to drop on us.
 
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luthervol said:
What a crock.
I've answered it multiple times, whereas you've not even attempted an answer at mine.
Tells everyone what they need to know.
Now once again.........sloooooooooooooowly.
One is a living human while the other is a living fetus. By definition.

I'll try larger font and bolding.
A 9 month old fetus is more human than an 8 month old fetus but less human than a one month old baby.

Your turn. Do you believe a 5 year old and a zygote are equally human? (5th time)
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You answer by playing stupid little word games every time, shocker. Let’s try it this way. Is an 8 month old fetus a human? If not the back that absurd claim up scientifically. I will give an answer as soon as I finally get an honest one from you.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
Abortion is, by definition, birth control. A terminated pregnancy prevents a birth whether for medical reasons or social reasons.

As I linked earlier, Israel.... an ally the US provides billions of dollars in essentially unrestricted aid.... funds abortion up to the point of birth. Israel approves 98% of all requested abortions and funds them for women under 33 and above 45, I think it is.

Why are we giving money to this country? Who supports that?

Edited: In Israel, the fetus has no rights until crowning or the umbilical cord is cut.

https://www.beadchaim.com/article/abortion-in-israel
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I'm not about to go down that rabbit hole. You dig deep enough and your can probably find Bama fans in Tel Aviv and I'll be onboard with launching a nuke. Non sequitur
 
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