New mexico allows killing babies

[Tyler Durden]

Question. Say a woman is 7 months pregnant. And she wants to abort it. Should she be able to do it?

Yes, why shouldn't she?

 

[luthervol]

Human beings

Then why didn't you say human beings instead of living things?
How about white rhinos, bald eagles, or the stray cat in your neighborhood?

 

[luthervol]

Luther is lucky his mother didn't abort him.

BTW Luther, did your mother abort a sibling? What about one of your kids or your wife?

They all aborted every single unwanted pregnancy they had. I am so glad they had that freedom.

 

[LouderVol]

It's still a personal decision.

You're way behind on this argument, go regroup and try another tack.

Cracks me up that you want no government interference and deregulation until the regulation and interference happen to meet with your desires.

Murder is wrong. Pretty much even the most libertarian person is ok with the government punishing that deed in some form or fashion.

 

[C-south]

Yes, why shouldn't she?

They should take the child and euthanize her.

 

[LouderVol]

Let's be honest the outrage from the right via abortion is all about women having the ability to make a life ending decision without consquences.

Fyp.

 

[evillawyer]

..... right up to birth...

I guess post birth abortion will be next.

New Mexico House Committee Passes Bill to Legalize Killing Babies in Abortions Up to Birth

You would definitely not like Peter Singer
https://www.washingtonpost.com/arch...nticide/cce7dc81-3775-4ef6-bfea-74cd795fc43f/

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Then why didn't you say human beings instead of living things?
How about white rhinos, bald eagles, or the stray cat in your neighborhood?

A human being is a living thing.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Yes, why shouldn't she?

So should I be allowed to kill someone without any consequences?

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

You would definitely not like Peter Singer
https://www.washingtonpost.com/arch...nticide/cce7dc81-3775-4ef6-bfea-74cd795fc43f/

This guy perfectly sums up the liberal ideology.

 

[Tyler Durden]

So should I be allowed to kill someone without any consequences?

Killing/murder and abortion are two completely different things. Doesn't something have to be alive before you can kill it?

 

[LouderVol]

Killing/murder and abortion are two completely different things. Doesn't something have to be alive before you can kill it?

The fetus is dead before being aborted? I am pretty sure you dont call removal of a dead fetus an abortion.

 

[C-south]

Killing/murder and abortion are two completely different things. Doesn't something have to be alive before you can kill it?

How many pregnant women have been killed and the person responsible for their death charged with a double homicide?

 

[Septic]

Murder is wrong. Pretty much even the most libertarian person is ok with the government punishing that deed in some form or fashion.

See, that's just it - not everyone believes it's murder.

 

[Septic]

How many pregnant women have been killed and the person responsible for their death charged with a double homicide?

9?

no, 17.

23?

Crap...5?

Ok 9.

Is it 9?

 

[Tyler Durden]

Murder is wrong. Pretty much even the most libertarian person is ok with the government punishing that deed in some form or fashion.

I always thought that libertarians were the staunchest defenders of personal freedom. I guess that changes when a woman gets pregnant and they believe they have the authority to control her vagina.

 

[Tyler Durden]

The fetus is dead before being aborted? I am pretty sure you dont call removal of a dead fetus an abortion.

Should we start punishing women for having miscarriages now as well?

 

[LouderVol]

See, that's just it - not everyone believes it's murder.

And they have no logical argument for it.

Its premeditated.
It's not suicide.
Its human.
Its alive.
It's not the mom (or the dad).
It's not consensual.

 

[luthervol]

A human being is a living thing.

All squares are parallelograms but all parallelograms are not squares.

 

[LouderVol]

I always thought that libertarians were the staunchest defenders of personal freedom. I guess that changes when a woman gets pregnant and they believe they have the authority to control her vagina.

Abortion includes ripping out the vagina?

After your post about the fetus not being alive and now this about a vagina (anatomically you have the wrong organ), I dont think you actually know what an abortion is.

 

[LouderVol]

Should we start punishing women for having miscarriages now as well?

Accidental deaths are murder?

 

[LouderVol]

All squares are parallelograms but all parallelograms are not squares.

Yet for some reason physical location of this square determines what it is?

 

[Sandman 423]

Let's be honest the faux outrage from the right via abortion is all about women having the ability to make a life changing decision without consulting a man.

It’s like you’re making the post birth abortion argument for me.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Killing/murder and abortion are two completely different things. Doesn't something have to be alive before you can kill it?

So a 7 month old baby isn’t alive?

 

[Septic]

And they have no logical argument for it.

Its premeditated.
It's not suicide.
Its human.
Its alive.
It's not the mom (or the dad).
It's not consensual.

Is it a human though? It's a human fetus sure, but shouldnt sentience be considered?

Lots of nasty hurtles, like agreeing on terminology - before anyone could rationally make a case for "murdah."