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LouderVol said:
in your words as "neutral observer responding to what is posted" why would I think through things that weren't posted?

maybe I missed it, but I don't think anyone here said that the drugs killed him. I thought the point made was that the one examiner, who saw the toxicology report, said that's Penny's chokehold didn't kill the homeless guy. and at least as far as the jury was able figure out, they agreed as they couldn't find Penny guilty for the crimes charged against him.
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I did.
I said it.
The report says he has a lethal level of drugs in his system.

And the fact remains that the headlock didn’t kill him as no chokehold was applied.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
I did.
I said it.
The report says he has a lethal level of drugs in his system.
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Source?

Neely’s toxicology reports confirmed he had K2 in his system when he died, Kenniff said. But the report didn’t say how much was present.

The expert testimony would show that Neely was using the drug right before his fatal encounter with Penny, and that he was showing the same behavioral traits of someone mired in the throes of a K2 high, the attorney said.
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nypost.com

Daniel Penny manslaughter trial DA wants to ban testimony on Jordan Neely’s psych history, K-2 abuse before subway chokehold death

Attorneys for Daniel Penny — who faces manslaughter charges for allegedly choking Jordan Neely to death in May 2023 — want a forensic psychiatrist to testify about Neely’s abuse of the synthetic ca…
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Defense attorneys pressed about synthetic cannabinoids in Neely's system, otherwise known as the drug K2. Harris said of the 10,000 overdoses in New York City, seven were due to synthetic marijuana, and all of those people had abnormal hearts. Neely had a normal heart, she said.
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Harris also testified there's no way to know how much K2 was in his system, and that synthetic cannabinoids are relatively new, and not a well understood class of drugs.
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NashVol11 said:
Source?



nypost.com

Daniel Penny manslaughter trial DA wants to ban testimony on Jordan Neely’s psych history, K-2 abuse before subway chokehold death

Attorneys for Daniel Penny — who faces manslaughter charges for allegedly choking Jordan Neely to death in May 2023 — want a forensic psychiatrist to testify about Neely’s abuse of the synthetic ca…
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Trial transcript.
Both the defense medical examiner and later admitted by the examiner for the state on cross that the level of K2 in Newley’s system had caused deaths in other healthy individuals.

He’s been found not guilty because a choke wasn’t the cause of death.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
Trial transcript.
Both the defense medical examiner and later admitted by the examiner for the state on cross that the level of K2 in Newley’s system had caused deaths in other healthy individuals.

He’s been found not guilty because a choke wasn’t the cause of death.
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Yeah but he was white and Neely was black. Therefore.... even though he didn't have anything to do with the death, he was guilty.
 
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NYPD Sergeant Earning $200K Busted For Shoplifting cough medicine on Long Island​


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An NYPD sergeant who made more than $200,000 last year including nearly $55,000 in overtime assigned to a headquarters unit was arrested Saturday for allegedly shoplifting cough medicine, according to officials, records and police sources.

Sgt. Rayna Madho, listed as a detective squad commander, was suspended without pay at about 10 p.m. Saturday after her arrest in Nassau County, NYPD records show.

A Nassau County police spokesman said Madho, 41, of Queens, was charged with two counts of petty larceny for two separate incidents on Dec. 7 and Nov. 24 at the Target store on Sunrise Highway in Valley Stream, L.I. She was issued a desk appearance ticket and ordered to return to court on Dec. 27, Nassau police said.

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NYPD Sergeant earning $200K busted for shoplifting cough medicine on Long Island

Sgt. Rayna Madho, listed as a detective squad commander, was suspended without pay about 10 p.m. Saturday after her arrest in Nassau County, NYPD records show.
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Orangeslice13 said:
Trial transcript.
Both the defense medical examiner and later admitted by the examiner for the state on cross that the level of K2 in Newley’s system had caused deaths in other healthy individuals.
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Link? Not seeing that anywhere and the above is very different from “drugs killed him” given that most overdoses are tied to contaminated batches (and involve vomiting etc.)
Orangeslice13 said:
He’s been found not guilty because a choke wasn’t the cause of death.
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Even his own attorney didn’t try to say it was drugs, just you
“He was not dying due to Danny squeezing him to death,” Mr. Raiser told jurors Monday. “He was dying because he was being deprived of oxygen internally due to his medical condition.”
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But the medical examiner, Dr. Cynthia Harris, determined that Mr. Neely had died from compression of the neck. She testifiedthat the defense’s hypothesis was “so improbable that it stands shoulder-to-shoulder with impossibility.”
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NashVol11 said:
Link? Not seeing that anywhere and the above is very different from “drugs killed him” given that most overdoses are tied to contaminated batches (and involve vomiting etc.)

Even his own attorney didn’t try to say it was drugs, just you
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Yup. It’s me saying it was drugs.
I agree with both medical examiners that many others have died from the level of K2 in his system.
He was found not guilty…….because no chokehold was applied….. it’s bad terminology. He had the guy restrained for 15 minutes. In Bjj we would call it a “headlock” or a “saddle restraint”
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
Yup. It’s me saying it was drugs.
I agree with both medical examiners that many others have died from the level of K2 in his system.
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Alright well that’s a pretty irresponsible thing to say if this flimsy BS is all you have to back it up. The report didn’t even say “the level in his system” and we are talking about synthetic weed, not fentanyl
 
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Both sides said he died from lack of oxygen, btw, as anyone can see 3 posts up. I like you Slice but spreading lies about “drugs killed him, he basically killed himself” is garbage
 
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NashVol11 said:
Alright well that’s a pretty irresponsible thing to say if this flimsy BS is all you have to back it up. The report didn’t even say “the level in his system” and we are talking about synthetic weed, not fentanyl
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The jury is the fact finder, so when you claim all this stuff that people said it has nothing to do with being flimsy. The guy killed himself, it's not complex. Everyone should have a chance for due process but if the person is so f'd up from either mental illness andor drugs that isn't always possible.

Not sure what your point is if any to any of this. You should be upset about the wasted life, not the ending of it.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
The jury is the fact finder, so when you claim all this stuff that people said it has nothing to do with being flimsy. The guy killed himself, it's not complex. Everyone should have a chance for due process but if the person is so f'd up from either mental illness andor drugs that isn't always possible.

Not sure what your point is if any to any of this. You should be upset about the wasted life, not the ending of it.
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The jury didn’t find that “drugs killed him” either, I hate when people try to explain the legal system while having no clue themselves
 
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NashVol11 said:
The jury didn’t find that “drugs killed him” either, I hate when people try to explain the legal system while having no clue themselves
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No, they are the fact finder and they determined he killed himself. The person responsible for the death is dead.
 
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NashVol11 said:
That is not what they determined lmfao, let the adults talk and go read a book
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Yes it is. There is no other reasonable path that the DA came up with as to a reason why he is dead. If someone else killed him, the DA could still press charges. A reasonable person would say he killed himself. He did.

You're an idiot with your chicks with dicks, Haitians don't eat cats, and innocent druggy. You are a loony.

Nobody is really speaking with you; they are entertaining your delusions.
 
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