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LSU-SIU said:
Yes it is. There is no other reasonable path that the DA came up with as to a reason why he is dead.

You're an idiot with your chicks with dicks, Haitians don't eat cats, and innocent druggy. You are a loony.
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No, it’s not. You’re arguing that “a jury found” something that neither side argued. It’s like a 3rd grader trying to pass a law school class
 
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NashVol11 said:
Alright well that’s a pretty irresponsible thing to say if this flimsy BS is all you have to back it up. The report didn’t even say “the level in his system” and we are talking about synthetic weed, not fentanyl
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Lol
You understand you’re on an anonymous message board where you are discussing your opinion, right ?

I’ve read the transcript. I’ve followed along. I’ve been in court and even served on a jury. I understand how these things work. It’s ok if you have not and are just reading others opinions and picking what you agree with. It’s ok if you followed like I did and draw a different conclusion.
Real question….Do you honestly think you’re going to change anyone’s mind on this board about anything? Is that why you’re here?


Both medical examiners testified or agreed to the fact that plenty have died from the level of k2 in his system.
We have no idea how dangerous synthetic is or isn’t. It could be worse than fentanyl. Time will tell.
 
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NashVol11 said:
No, it’s not. You’re arguing that “a jury found” something that neither side argued. It’s like a 3rd grader trying to pass a law school class
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I'm not arguing anything. That is the reason what the DA came up with, the jury said what the DA is saying is false. Its not complex, the guy killed himself, if not... who else did it?

The guy killed himself.
 
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NashVol11 said:
Both sides said he died from lack of oxygen, btw, as anyone can see 3 posts up. I like you Slice but spreading lies about “drugs killed him, he basically killed himself” is garbage
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Did you know that some synthetic drugs have been known to cause an asthmatic response? If that happened in this case what would the cause of death be?
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
Lol
You understand you’re on an anonymous message board where you are discussing your opinion, right ?
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If it's your opinion and you're speculating then say that. If I ask for a source and you don't have one then say that. Quoting me to do the "I know you don't want to believe it, but drugs killed him" BS implies there's an actual basis beyond your opinion
Orangeslice13 said:
I’ve read the transcript. I’ve followed along. I’ve been in court and even served on a jury. I understand how these things work.
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Rest assured that I understand how these things work at a level beyond serving on a jury as well
Orangeslice13 said:
It’s ok if you have not and are just reading others opinions and picking what you agree with. It’s ok if you followed like I did and draw a different conclusion.
Real question….Do you honestly think you’re going to change anyone’s mind on this board about anything? Is that why you’re here?
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I don't care about changing minds but slandering dead people (often dead black people) with "it was drugs" inaccurately is something I'll likely always push back on
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Both medical examiners testified or agreed to the fact that plenty have died from the level of k2 in his system.
We have no idea how dangerous synthetic is or isn’t. It could be worse than fentanyl. Time will tell.
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Then what was the level in his system? Because I see both sides saying "the report didn't say" and "it's impossible to tell," so unless you have a source, seems like the above can't be true.
 
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NashVol11 said:
If it's your opinion and you're speculating then say that. If I ask for a source and you don't have one then say that. Quoting me to do the "I know you don't want to believe it, but drugs killed him" BS implies there's an actual basis beyond your opinion

Rest assured that I "understand how these things work" at a level beyond serving on a jury and staying at a Holiday Inn Express last night

I don't care about changing minds but slandering dead black people with "drugs" inaccurately is something I'll likely always push back on

Then what was the level in his system? Because I see both sides saying "the report didn't say" and "it's impossible to tell," so unless you have a source, seems like the above can't be true.
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Whatever theories provided by the DA, the fact finder either believed the facts were wrong and/or that the facts did not meet the definition of the specific crime. A reasonable person would conclude that it really doesn't matter if the drugs caused the death in this instance.
 
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NashVol11 said:
Both sides said he died from lack of oxygen, btw, as anyone can see 3 posts up. I like you Slice but spreading lies about “drugs killed him, he basically killed himself” is garbage
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No it’s not. It’s the same bs as with George Floyd. If the race grifters can stoke the racial flames then they’re going to do that for all they can.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
Whatever theories provided by the DA, the fact finder either believed the facts were wrong and/or that the facts did not meet the definition of the specific crime. A reasonable person would conclude that it really doesn't matter if the drugs caused the death in this instance.
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They found that there's reasonable doubt he's guilty of the charge applied to him. That's it. Reasonable doubt could be Neely's medical condition, or depending on the charge could be that Penny killed him but didn't have the requisite intent, or many other things. None of that would be the jury finding that he "killed himself"
 
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C-south said:
No it’s not. It’s the same bs as with George Floyd. If the race grifters can stoke the racial flames then they’re going to do that for all they can.
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Hey, if you think drugs killed him, back it up. Otherwise it's just a fairytale that you like to hear. If the defense had an argument that drugs killed him, they would have made it
 
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NashVol11 said:
They found that there's reasonable doubt he's guilty of the charge applied to him. That's it. Reasonable doubt could be Neely's medical condition, or depending on the charge could be that Penny killed him but didn't have the requisite intent, or many other things. None of that would be the jury finding that he "killed himself"
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They found what the DA was presenting as false.

A reasonable person could and probably should conclude based on what has been presented that he killed himself. I don't know what your point is.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
They found what the DA was presenting as false.

A reasonable person could and probably should conclude based on what has been presented that he killed himself. I don't know what your point is.
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My point is that you have no idea what you're talking about, and you keep proving me right. Finding reasonable doubt isn't finding "everything the DA said is false" and what "a reasonable person could and probably should conclude" has absolutely nothing to do with a court of law and is a standard you just made up
 
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NashVol11 said:
My point is that you have no idea what you're talking about, and you keep proving me right. Finding reasonable doubt isn't finding "everything the DA said is false" and what "a reasonable person could and probably should conclude" has absolutely nothing to do with a court of law
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I never said that, and its mostly irrelevant. The found the DA's story andor charges as false. What is your point?

What are you trying to get out of this discussion?

From what I can tell the guy killed himself years ago. Neely killed Neely.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
I never said that, and its mostly irrelevant. The found the DA's story and charges as false. What is your point?
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No, they didn't, and they certainly didn't "find that he killed himself". I assume this is trolling for engagement so we're done here
 
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NashVol11 said:
Hey, if you think drugs killed him, back it up. Otherwise it's just a fairytale that you like to hear. If the defense had an argument that drugs killed him, they would have made it
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If drugs didn’t kill him back it up. See how easy that is? It’s odd that these worthless, drug addict criminals are putting themselves in these positions but it’s never the drugs only whitey.
 
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NashVol11 said:
Both sides argued that lack of oxygen killed him and no one even tried to say that drugs did. I agree, very easy. Your turn
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What killed him? They are not the fact finder. But even if the guy died for lack of oxygen doesn't mean anything necessarily.

What is your point?

The guy probably should have died from lead poisoning years ago.
 
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NashVol11 said:
Both sides argued that lack of oxygen killed him and no one even tried to say that drugs did. I agree, very easy. Your turn
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I wonder what adverse side effects the drugs in his system could cause especially when he put himself in the situation he did?
 
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