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#2,165
VKAman said:
Cobb is very overrated. Jordy is properly rated IMO, #7ish receiver in the league
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Cobb is a great slot receiver...arguably one of the best. If you thought he was one of the best receivers, regardless, then yeah. You overrated him.

And I'd put Jordy on the cusp of Top 5. Probably, like you said, just outside. He's not the physical specimen you get from Dez or Megatron. But you won't find much more sure hands than Jordy's. Also I'd contend that I don't know a better receiver in the league at catching the going-out-of-bounds throws.
 
#2,167
#2,167
crusse10 said:
Cobb is a great slot receiver...arguably one of the best. If you thought he was one of the best receivers, regardless, then yeah. You overrated him.

And I'd put Jordy on the cusp of Top 5. Probably, like you said, just outside. He's not the physical specimen you get from Dez or Megatron. But you won't find much more sure hands than Jordy's. Also I'd contend that I don't know a better receiver in the league at catching the going-out-of-bounds throws.
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People were acting like Cobb was a top 10-15 receiver and he's not. Brown, Julio, Beckham, Green, and Dez are all better than Jordy. Megatron is probably better, Hopkins is close and Watkins will be in the top 5 soon.
 
#2,169
#2,169
VKAman said:
People were acting like Cobb was a top 10-15 receiver and he's not. Brown, Julio, Beckham, Green, and Dez are all better than Jordy. Megatron is probably better, Hopkins is close and Watkins will be in the top 5 soon.
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With Jordy playing, he's on the cusp of a Top-10 play in Fantasy. Without Jordy, he's the back-end of the Top-20.

As for that list, there are only maybe one or two that I'd trust more to make big-time catches and be as in-tune with Rodgers. Also, he doesn't throw tantrums and get fined/suspended. A guy like Beckham might be better, but give me Jordy.
 
#2,170
#2,170
VKAman said:
People were acting like Cobb was a top 10-15 receiver and he's not. Brown, Julio, Beckham, Green, and Dez are all better than Jordy. Megatron is probably better, Hopkins is close and Watkins will be in the top 5 soon.
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Edleman and Demaryius Thomas are better as well
 
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#2,171
BigOrangeTrain said:
Edleman and Demaryius Thomas are better as well
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Thomas is in the discussion, but drops too many passes and doesn't always show up. I'm not sure Edelman is a true #1 but he's ridiculously quick, more than maybe anyone not named Antonio Brown. But the main guy I think I left out is Alshon Jeffery.

My top 10 would be Julio, Brown, OBJ, Green, Dez, Megatron, Nelson, Hopkins, Jeffery, then someone like Marshall or maybe Thomas that will get jumped by Watkins soon.

Also, he's not top 10-caliber, but more people need to pay attention to what Allen Robinson is doing.
 
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#2,172
VKAman said:
Panthers haven't won one either
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That's right. 5 of the 12 in the playoffs hadn't... I was thinking four. Houston was the only one of the 12 that had never been to a SB.

Now all remaining from the AFC have won Super Bowls and two of the four in the NFC have.

No team has lost as many SBs as Denver.

Cowboys, Steelers, and Patriots are tied for most appearances (8 each). Cowboys are 5-3.

Pitt has won the most (6).

NE and GB can tie Dallas and the 49ers (5-1) for 2nd most wins (5). NE can tie Denver for most SB losses. NE is currently tied with the Vikings and Bills for 2nd most SB losses. Vikings and Bills are both 0-4.

Packers can tie San Francisco for highest SB winning percentage AFTER the Ravens at 2-0 and the Jets, Tampa Bay, and the Saints at 1-0.

Of the final eight: Longest time since appearing in a Super Bowl: KC 46 years, Carolina 12 years.

6 of NE's 8 Super Bowls have been in the last 15 years. The other seven teams have been to 10 SBs in the last 15 years Pitt (3), Seattle (3), Denver, GB, Cards, Carolina 1x each.

Pitt 6-2
NE 4-4
Denver 2-5
KC 1-1

GB 4-1
Seattle 1-2
Cards 0-1
Panthers 0-1

Possible rematches (if GB reaches the SB it will be a rematch of a previous SB):

Carolina Panthers v NE Pats
Cards v Pitt Steelers
Seahawks v NE Pats
Seahawks v Denver
Seahawks v Pitt Steelers
GB v NE Pats
GB v Steelers
GB v Denver
GB v Kansas City

Only 5 pairs of teams have had SB rematches. Cowboys and Steelers have played three times. Four pairs have played twice: Miami/Washington, Bengals/49ers, Bills/Cowboys, Patriots/Giants. None of the remaining eight have played another in more than one SB.
 
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#2,174
Thunder Good-Oil said:
That's right. 5 of the 12 in the playoffs hadn't... I was thinking four. Houston was the only one of the 12 that had never been to a SB.

Now all remaining from the AFC have won Super Bowls and two of the four in the NFC have.

No team has lost as many SBs as Denver.

Cowboys, Steelers, and Patriots are tied for most appearances (8 each). Cowboys are 5-3.

Pitt has won the most (6).

NE and GB can tie Dallas and the 49ers (5-1) for 2nd most wins (5). NE can tie Denver for most SB losses. NE is currently tied with the Vikings and Bills for 2nd most SB losses. Vikings and Bills are both 0-4.

Packers can tie San Francisco for highest SB winning percentage AFTER the Ravens at 2-0 and the Jets, Tampa Bay, and the Saints at 1-0.

Of the final eight: Longest time since appearing in a Super Bowl: KC 46 years, Carolina 12 years.

6 of NE's 8 Super Bowls have been in the last 15 years. The other seven teams have been to 10 SBs in the last 15 years Pitt (3), Seattle (3), Denver, GB, Cards, Carolina 1x each.

Pitt 6-2
NE 4-4
Denver 2-5
KC 1-1

GB 4-1
Seattle 1-2
Cards 0-1
Panthers 0-1

Possible rematches (if GB reaches the SB it will be a rematch of a previous SB):

Carolina Panthers v NE Pats
Cards v Pitt Steelers
Seahawks v NE Pats
Seahawks v Denver
Seahawks v Pitt Steelers
GB v NE Pats
GB v Steelers
GB v Denver
GB v Kansas City

Only 5 pairs of teams have had SB rematches. Cowboys and Steelers have played three times. Four pairs have played twice: Miami/Washington, Bengals/49ers, Bills/Cowboys, Patriots/Giants. None of the remaining eight have played another in more than one SB.
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Guess we need to play Denver to avenge 98. Everyone else that would be a rematch is a team we've already won the Super Bowl against.
 
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