NIL Money - Preventing Locker Room Issues

[QuarterSawnVol]

Players have been getting paid for years. At least some of the money is out in the open now

 

[WoodsmanVol]

I still say we wouldn't have this mess if it wasn't for the greedy and oppressive fat cats in universities and brand sponsors.
A few examples.

Arian Foster Tacos-gate
A.J. Green Independce Bowl Jersey scandal
Johnny Manziel Autograph Scandal
The We Own Scam

The fat getting fatter scam

Theories of NIL Positives

Greed and oppressive privilege created the NIL mess. Sadly, the fat cats prove to be a model for players who now seem to be as greedy and privileged now. What's the adage? Oh yeah, you shall reap what you sow.

 

[Model12]

Communism is socialism with your gun.

No one mentioned a gun.

 

[VolsFan-TX]

Not sure I would call it socialism or communism. Their teammates helped them obtain that success. Hooker and Hyatt were great but without the OL, RBs, and other WRs (or in some situations, the defense) doing their part they don't have the year they did

And they are free to share their success with their classmates or not.

 

[VolsFan-TX]

Three reasons the death of college football is imminent : 1. Nil.....very unfair to the majority of team mates that get 0 ! 2. Transfer Portal .......breeds lack discipline by coaches , because they are afraid their best players will transfer if the coach is a real disciplinarian ! 3. Opting out of bowl games makes many games totally insignificant , thus they become a definite farce.

Why is NIL unfair to those not receiving money? The system is based upon what a 3rd party perceives as the player’s value to them or their customers. When these men start working outside the football field, the same criteria will be used. Those who provide more value will be hired and paid more than those who do not. Simply earning a degree does not guarantee employment just as NIL money is not given simply for being on the team.

Paying of players has existed for a long time and has always favored the skilled positions and other highly rated players. NIL is just more visible than the previous system. If a player wants NIL money, then the player has to do something to stand out from the competition…..more sacks, more TDs, more rushing yds, etc.

 

[JCHateSteve]

That’s true. He put himself in that situation.

I think the school shouldn’t receive any of the money but just be responsible for distributing the correct amount amongst the correct players. There’s so much freedom right now with NIL though it would take a lot of rules and regulations to have any kind of control like professional sports. Then it would get really tricky for high school players that aren’t committed to get NIL deals unless a portion got divided amongst the high school team lol.
The whole NIL concept is primarily used to pay players to go to a particular school. Right now it’s just going to show that the rich will get richer and the poor will get poorer. The only way to fix that is by paying players out of the money actually generated from the the athletics department (ticket sales, merchandise, TV contracts, etc.). That’s the money that should be used to pay players, not random boosters’ pockets to make them pick their schools.

If the school is paying you have to drop any illusions of them being amateur athletes.

I have no issue with that. But the powers that be don't seem to be willing to accept it.

 

[Vol865]

And they are free to share their success with their classmates or not.

It's a team sport. Obviously better players are going to get paid more but their success is the result of a team game.

 

[Raebo]

So the 50,000-100,000 they get in scholarship, Pell Grant, and Funds for Cost of Attendance is not considered like a base payment???

 

[volfeeva]

I fear that NIL is going to be the downfall of college athletics. I like some parts of it, but hate others. I wish I was smart enough to figure out the correct answer moving forward.

I agree. I think folks have no problem with players getting something so they don't have to pawn things to survive, but how do you implement a program that pays players and things stay above table and doesn't create problems. Seems like what we have now is not working...some players getting paid and others not getting anything----only invites problems

 

[Raebo]

Do we even know what players are getting paid and how much? If not, then this is just uninformed speculation.

 

[overseasorange2]

I came up with the same idea some time ago and was called a "communist". Be careful my friend.

Sort of. How would you like to share your Christmass bonus with your co-workers type thing.

 

[Delmar]

Welcome to 2022 college football (aka NFL Lite). Already out of control and it’s only going to get crazier. Enjoy!

 

[Volfan1000]

As long as some players on the team are being paid and others are not receiving money, there will always be tension in the locker room. Banks is a tremendous player but wasn’t getting NIL money.
My solution is to have each NIL deal benefit the entire team. Every time a player gets an NIL deal, a portion of that amount (like a tax) is taken out and put into a pot of money that gets divided between every scholarship player on the team each month via check. It doesn’t sound like much, but I believe it would add up depending on what that percent is used. This allows the individual player with the NIL deal to receive a significant amount of money, while their teammates also benefit. This is not the pros where everyone on the roster is paid. This is college football and players couldn’t receive anything until just recently. Every player on the field is a major contributor to the success of each player around them. It only makes sense that the teammates that helped a player get a NIL deal receive part of their NIL money. Let me know everyone’s thoughts.

How are all the NIL deals calculated??????????

Thanks for any information.

 

[AdoptedVOL]

Nothing improves a service or product as well as capitalism based on free market enterprise. As much as I hate NIL and semi-pro college sports, I know in time this will all sort out.

 

[DaddyChad]

Three reasons the death of college football is imminent : 1. Nil.....very unfair to the majority of team mates that get 0 ! 2. Transfer Portal .......breeds lack discipline by coaches , because they are afraid their best players will transfer if the coach is a real disciplinarian ! 3. Opting out of bowl games makes many games totally insignificant , thus they become a definite farce.

It won’t die just may not be the sport you remember. This started a long time ago before NIL and the portal. Programs were making insane cash off these kids. And the scholarship thing is BS, a lot of these kids aren’t in school for degrees. They’re there for what they can do on the football field. Portal goes both ways as well.

 

[jeff1vol]

Sort of. How would you like to share your Christmass bonus with your co-workers type thing.

Well... considering they had the opportunity to make exactly ZERO dollars before (legally), I wouldn't be too damn upset. But I'm a communist, so...

 

[NCFisher]

It's a team sport. Obviously better players are going to get paid more but their success is the result of a team game.

This is a business transaction between two parties. No one, not the school or legal system, gets to apportion someone's income to others because 'team'.
If your employer tells you your income will be divided among yourself and the 'team', you'd have a problem with that and tell your employer 'team mates' can improve their income by improving their skills and value.

Now you understand NIL.

 

[CNCVol88]

The majority of the team is not receiving money. Even though they are all key contributors to each player’s success. What do you say to a player like Darnell Wright risking his body every game but not getting payed? Without him, Hooker and Hyatt do not have as great of seasons. Does Darnell not deserve it?

And skill position players get larger salaries and NIL deals in the pros too. That's why we have collectives like spyre we should be donating to.

 

[DaddyChad]

So the 50,000-100,000 they get in scholarship, Pell Grant, and Funds for Cost of Attendance is not considered like a base payment???

Depends on what kind of value someone can get out of that diploma.

 

[VolsFan-TX]

It's a team sport. Obviously better players are going to get paid more but their success is the result of a team game.

I agree, but that is not how it works.

 

[Hank Bukowski]

“Banks is a tremendous player.” You lost me right there.

 

[Vol865]

This is a business transaction between two parties. No one, not the school or legal system, gets to apportion someone's income to others because 'team'.
If your employer tells you your income will be divided among yourself and the 'team', you'd have a problem with that and tell your employer 'team mates' can improve their income by improving their skills and value.

Now you understand NIL.

My success as an employee doesn't correlate to the effort of my co-workers

 

[amstelman]

There truly should to be a way to get these athletes at least a small stipend. Just $100 a week would be life changing to many kids and their families.

However, lawyers would turn it all into a sh*t storm. Where do you draw the line? Swimmers? Volleyball? Any scholarship athlete? Then what is the value of a scholarship? What about struggling HBC institutions?

A bit mind-blowing to find a fair approach.

 

[Seattle Hillbilly]

I’ll donate to his deal to leave town. Not the type for Hueps culture and never has been.

I wonder if Heupel has suggested to Banks that it might be in his best interest to move on.

 

[Seattle Hillbilly]

My success as an employee doesn't correlate to the effort of my co-workers

Mine sure as heck did. As a project manager my success depended directly on the members of the project team. Doesn't mean I shared my salary with them.