NIL Money - Preventing Locker Room Issues

[Raebo]

There truly should to be a way to get these athletes at least a small stipend. Just $100 a week would be life changing to many kids and their families.

However, lawyers would turn it all into a sh*t storm. Where do you draw the line? Swimmers? Volleyball? Any scholarship athlete? Then what is the value of a scholarship? What about struggling HBC institutions?

A bit mind-blowing to find a fair approach.

Most get a Pell Grant (maybe not with NIL) of about $500 a month. They also get a “Cost of attending College” allowance of about $500 a month.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

Most get a Pell Grant (maybe not with NIL) of about $500 a month. They also get a “Cost of attending College” allowance of about $500 a month.

After the Alston decision by the courts, the "cost of attending school" can include computers and virtually anything for "educational purposes."

The courts basically told the NCAA they couldn't limit "educational benefits" to student athletes.

 

[Tnslim1]

Ok, say that Tennessee does do a sharing deal with all players getting a cut. How many top players do you think they would sign if another school didn't adopt the sharing deal. Kids are going to follow the money as after all, that's what it's all about. The game of amateur football is gone, never to return thanks to the portal and NIL.

 

[Vol865]

Mine sure as heck did. As a project manager my success depended directly on the members of the project team. Doesn't mean I shared my salary with them.

So you were more like a coach than a player

 

[jonnon111]

I came up with the same idea some time ago and was called a "communist". Be careful my friend.

Nothing says free market like some with all and most with nothing.

 

[WillisWG]

According to this USA Today article, that's how Oklahoma and Ohio St. handle their NIL business. No idea if this is correct or not.

Oklahoma, Ohio State taking unique approach to handling NIL

Knoxville NIL Club - Tennessee Volunteers Collective

The Knoxville NIL Club is a player-led collective. The Knoxville NIL Club joins groups like Michigan State’s East Lansing NIL Club, Auburn’s Plains NIL Club, Arkansas’ Fayetteville NIL Club and Kansas State’s Manhattan NIL Club and many more which are setting off a new era of collectives in college sports. However, unlike other YOKE-supported clubs, The Knoxville NIL Club allows fans to donate directly to financially support 100-plus Tennessee football players and “join the ultimate fan experience” through online communities and digital events with players. Participating players will split the proceeds equally. The players partner with YOKE, a platform that offers business tools to athletes to allow them to launch a paywalled community. This provides fans a way to engage with Tennessee athletes throughout the season via an online membership. NIL experts are not surprised by players making a move to have a seat at the table. The move also gives student-athletes the opportunity to have the cash funnel directly to them.

 

[Maybe next year]

As long as some players on the team are being paid and others are not receiving money, there will always be tension in the locker room. Banks is a tremendous player but wasn’t getting NIL money.
My solution is to have each NIL deal benefit the entire team. Every time a player gets an NIL deal, a portion of that amount (like a tax) is taken out and put into a pot of money that gets divided between every scholarship player on the team each month via check. It doesn’t sound like much, but I believe it would add up depending on what that percent is used. This allows the individual player with the NIL deal to receive a significant amount of money, while their teammates also benefit. This is not the pros where everyone on the roster is paid. This is college football and players couldn’t receive anything until just recently. Every player on the field is a major contributor to the success of each player around them. It only makes sense that the teammates that helped a player get a NIL deal receive part of their NIL money. Let me know everyone’s thoughts.

Why dont we buy a trophy for all the players as well or why dont we let all the players know they are champion's for life.
The players wanted to be compensated. So welcome to the grown-up world of getting paid what you are worth. Dont like what your getting paid, then work harder or find someone willing to pay you.

 

[swampfoxfan]

Every pro team sport has players making millions while others make thousands.a dishwasher makes less than an executive chef. All are needed it's up to the coaching staff to make it work. If any staff can do it ours can

 

[Iam4utalways]

NIL is still better than under the table. It’s been like this forever. Some get more than others.

Players were getting discouraged before NIL and they will get discouraged with NIL. One free transfer is still a way for a discouraged player to seek a better situation.

 

[volfanhill]

NIL is still better than under the table. It’s been like this forever. Some get more than others.

Players were getting discouraged before NIL and they will get discouraged with NIL. One free transfer is still a way for a discouraged player to seek a better situation.

NIL is better bc it's EVIL to not allow someone to earn money off their name, image, or likeness. As much as they possibly can. Even if it ruins college sports.

 

[volfanhill]

Despite fears and 'sky is falling' rhetoric, signing day proves NIL didn't ruin college football

 

[NCFisher]

My success as an employee doesn't correlate to the effort of my co-workers

Okay, so you don't understand NIL, or business.

 

[Vol865]

Okay, so you don't understand NIL, or business.

I understand NIL. I also understand the flaws. As far as business, that had nothing to do with the analogy. It was about an employee, not a business owner.

 

[NCFisher]

I understand NIL. I also understand the flaws. As far as business, that had nothing to do with the analogy. It was about an employee, not a business owner.

Business is essentially sales and operations. If you're in sales, you're dependent upon operations - from field or technical person down to inventory and warehouse personnel - to implement what you sold; otherwise, good luck establishing a reference list of successful projects/jobs. If you're in operations, you depend upon sales to beat the bushes, find opportunities for company products and sell them because those revenues keep your house payment and the kids fed. I can go on, but businesses are teams with dependencies throughout. Just like team sports.

There are no flaws with NIL. A business wants to sell its wares and use a star or potential star QB, RB, or WR to sell their product; they're taking a financial gamble that your player 'brand' will sell more of theirs. The skill positions sell Porsches, the linemen sell BBQ, if that, and some are not marketable. It is a business transaction. and players are sole proprietors.

You want to see a locker room get divided real quick and a team destroyed from within? Let one or more skill players 'share' their income but not share it as proportionately as other skill players, so then you have 'good' team mates and 'bad, selfish' team mates.

Just no. College is old enough to learn a life lesson; this isn't (yet) a Marxist society where you don't even own your own income, and thus yourself. Better find something you can make a career of.

 

[LWSVOL]

As long as some players on the team are being paid and others are not receiving money, there will always be tension in the locker room. Banks is a tremendous player but wasn’t getting NIL money.
My solution is to have each NIL deal benefit the entire team. Every time a player gets an NIL deal, a portion of that amount (like a tax) is taken out and put into a pot of money that gets divided between every scholarship player on the team each month via check. It doesn’t sound like much, but I believe it would add up depending on what that percent is used. This allows the individual player with the NIL deal to receive a significant amount of money, while their teammates also benefit. This is not the pros where everyone on the roster is paid. This is college football and players couldn’t receive anything until just recently. Every player on the field is a major contributor to the success of each player around them. It only makes sense that the teammates that helped a player get a NIL deal receive part of their NIL money. Let me know everyone’s thoughts.

that would lose in court real quick. Country not setup to share but for people to earn money on their own..

The way the supremes ruled, each player has the capability to profit on their name, imagine and likeness. Some will profit more than others.

 

[Vol865]

Business is essentially sales and operations. If you're in sales, you're dependent upon operations - from field or technical person down to inventory and warehouse personnel - to implement what you sold; otherwise, good luck establishing a reference list of successful projects/jobs. If you're in operations, you depend upon sales to beat the bushes, find opportunities for company products and sell them because those revenues keep your house payment and the kids fed. I can go on, but businesses are teams with dependencies throughout. Just like team sports.

There are no flaws with NIL. A business wants to sell its wares and use a star or potential star QB, RB, or WR to sell their product; they're taking a financial gamble that your player 'brand' will sell more of theirs. The skill positions sell Porsches, the linemen sell BBQ, if that, and some are not marketable. It is a business transaction. and players are sole proprietors.

You want to see a locker room get divided real quick and a team destroyed from within? Let one or more skill players 'share' their income but not share it as proportionately as other skill players, so then you have 'good' team mates and 'bad, selfish' team mates.

Just no. College is old enough to learn a life lesson; this isn't (yet) a Marxist society where you don't even own your own income, and thus yourself. Better find something you can make a career of.

You are looking at the business model at a much wider point of view, which throws in a ton of variables. You are talking about what makes the business successful as a whole. I'm saying as an employee, the amount they get paid does not directly correlate to another employee's effort. The overall good of the company is a different story. But in NIL/Football, a star player's brand/success can be impacted by a teammates effort.

Everything has flaws. Nothing is 100% perfect.
You may claim NIL is about marketability but it's just pay to play disguised as a business 90% of the time, at least for the big money.

 

[malinoisvol]

Eventually, an O line is going to purposely let the QB get hammered a couple times, then they'll get some of that NIL money.

 

[mtvols]

The NIL concept is going to blow up at some point. The big money sports get the attention like Football and that’s were NIL money will go. Just wait until the athletes from the lesser sports start to complain about the system not being fair. Why does the Football team get NIL $$$ but the women’s soccer team doesn’t have the same opportunities. It’s coming.

 

[Raebo]

Reminds me of my high school team. The QB got a nice looking cheerleader, our good 5’11” 250 lb. tackle got….……..

 

[Butch s]

As long as some players on the team are being paid and others are not receiving money, there will always be tension in the locker room. Banks is a tremendous player but wasn’t getting NIL money.
My solution is to have each NIL deal benefit the entire team. Every time a player gets an NIL deal, a portion of that amount (like a tax) is taken out and put into a pot of money that gets divided between every scholarship player on the team each month via check. It doesn’t sound like much, but I believe it would add up depending on what that percent is used. This allows the individual player with the NIL deal to receive a significant amount of money, while their teammates also benefit. This is not the pros where everyone on the roster is paid. This is college football and players couldn’t receive anything until just recently. Every player on the field is a major contributor to the success of each player around them. It only makes sense that the teammates that helped a player get a NIL deal receive part of their NIL money. Let me know everyone’s thoughts.

It’s the liberal way with any situation that exists under the sun. A bunch of do gooders who for some reason, think they know what’s best for everyone else. Their ideas for everyone are so good that they have to be mandated. Then you start drawing up laws and rules and get lawyers involved. They think they can raise some people up by lowering others. NIL is killing college sports. Now the TSSAA is allowing high school kids to get NIL money. Soon you will need tax attorneys, there will have to be contracts written up. I kinda like the fact that saban hates it, but as bad as I hate to say that old bastard is right

 

[jeff1vol]

Nothing says free market like some with all and most with nothing.

Are we talking about a "team" or general society? I can distinguish between the two. And certainly understand that they both function very differently.

 

[allen phillips]

As long as some players on the team are being paid and others are not receiving money, there will always be tension in the locker room. Banks is a tremendous player but wasn’t getting NIL money.
My solution is to have each NIL deal benefit the entire team. Every time a player gets an NIL deal, a portion of that amount (like a tax) is taken out and put into a pot of money that gets divided between every scholarship player on the team each month via check. It doesn’t sound like much, but I believe it would add up depending on what that percent is used. This allows the individual player with the NIL deal to receive a significant amount of money, while their teammates also benefit. This is not the pros where everyone on the roster is paid. This is college football and players couldn’t receive anything until just recently. Every player on the field is a major contributor to the success of each player around them. It only makes sense that the teammates that helped a player get a NIL deal receive part of their NIL money. Let me know everyone’s thoughts.

It would also incentivize the players who are getting the percentage money to welcome in the big NIL players because the higher NIL income they receive would make the non-NIL players receive more. Hopefully that would make for a contented locker room.

 

[allen phillips]

Why is NIL unfair to those not receiving money? The system is based upon what a 3rd party perceives as the player’s value to them or their customers. When these men start working outside the football field, the same criteria will be used. Those who provide more value will be hired and paid more than those who do not. Simply earning a degree does not guarantee employment just as NIL money is not given simply for being on the team.

Paying of players has existed for a long time and has always favored the skilled positions and other highly rated players. NIL is just more visible than the previous system. If a player wants NIL money, then the player has to do something to stand out from the competition…..more sacks, more TDs, more rushing yds, etc.

I do not think was complaining about the NIL money itself. His concern is that, human nature being what it is, those who have no NIL deal are going to naturally resent those who do.

 

[EastTNVol6240]

Sounds like college football coached by AOC and the squad. As for banks he’s not as great as some of you think. He looks good on an awful defense if we’re being honest. Also some of you like to forget about his run in with the cops a few years ago where he let out his true colors. After that I don’t see any organization wanting to partner with him.

 

[tn4elvis]

that would lose in court real quick. Country not setup to share but for people to earn money on their own..

The way the supremes ruled, each player has the capability to profit on their name, imagine and likeness. Some will profit more than others.

Good to see you posting my friend . I hope you are doing well.