Nirvana nominated for HoF

#51
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SWIL said:
Their pending induction into the hof pretty much says otherwise.


Their impact changed rock the same way the Beatles did 30 years eariler.
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So you're saying that since they will be inducted into the Hall of Fame, they're shoulder to shoulder with everyone in the Hall of Fame?
 
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#54
To each his own, but IMO Nirvana just plain sucked to no end. They should be a 1st ballot inductee to The Hall Of Fame of shi**y music.
 
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GahLee said:
Then how does an induction say otherwise? He just stated that that they weren't as influential as that group of artists. He didn't say they didn't belong there.
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Nirvana has influenced the sound of basically every modern rock band after their run. They were the gold standard of the 90s and countless s#&*#y cookie cutter bands have followed them to this day.


It doesn't matter if you don't like their music, you cannot deny their massive influence on rock and roll, for better or worse.

No other band other than the Beatles, maybe Led Zeppelin, have made an impact like this.
 
#56
#56
You guys shouldn't confuse musical preference from the straight up facts.


Nirvana isn't my favorite band either.


I think Zeppelin, Floyd, the who, Queen, and black Sabbath were much better bands than Nirvana.
 
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SWIL said:
Nirvana has influenced the sound of basically every modern rock band after their run. They were the gold standard of the 90s and countless s#&*#y cookie cutter bands have followed them to this day.


It doesn't matter if you don't like their music, you cannot deny their massive influence on rock and roll, for better or worse.

No other band other than the Beatles, maybe Led Zeppelin, have made an impact like this.
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For the record, I do like their music. They're just pretty far down the list for most influential artists of all-time.
 
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SWIL said:
You guys shouldn't confuse musical preference from the straight up facts.


Nirvana isn't my favorite band either.


I think Zeppelin, Floyd, the who, Queen, and black Sabbath were much better bands than Nirvana.
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More influential as well. And nothing you've stated is a fact.
 
#59
#59
Perhaps we just have different understandings of "influential".

I understand your points
 
#60
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SWIL said:
Nirvana has influenced the sound of basically every modern rock band after their run. They were the gold standard of the 90s and countless s#&*#y cookie cutter bands have followed them to this day.


It doesn't matter if you don't like their music, you cannot deny their massive influence on rock and roll, for better or worse.

No other band other than the Beatles, maybe Led Zeppelin, have made an impact like this.
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I don't know why you keep saying "maybe". Led Zeppline's influence is 2nd only to the Beatles and it's less than a fraction of a percentage point.
 
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SWIL said:
Nirvana has influenced the sound of basically every modern rock band after their run. They were the gold standard of the 90s and countless s#&*#y cookie cutter bands have followed them to this day.


It doesn't matter if you don't like their music, you cannot deny their massive influence on rock and roll, for better or worse.

No other band other than the Beatles, maybe Led Zeppelin, have made an impact like this.
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I'm curious, which current bands do you hear a Nirvana influence in? Other than anything Dave Grohl is involved in.

Also, who do you think influenced Nirvana?
 
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SWIL said:
Their pending induction into the hof pretty much says otherwise.


Their impact changed rock the same way the Beatles did 30 years eariler.
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You don't blame one individual for the Transcendalist movement in American writing, do you? You can say Elvis started Rock and Roll. You can say MJ started Pop the way it is. You can say the beatles changed bands as they are, but you cannot say that, without Nirvana, a band like Pearl jam, Soundgarden, etc. wouldn't have just filled the void.

Are they first ballot hall of famers? Yes. But that doesn't mean they are one of the GOAT. If you don't think so, ask Pete Rose.
 
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swil said:
they should automatically be added. No nomination, no voting.

Nirvana is second only to the beetles, imo, as far as the amount of influence and impact they had on changing the face of rock n roll.
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lol!
 
#66
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SWIL said:
If the Velvets and the Stooges were more influential than Nirvana (as you are suggesting), why didn't the whole rock world change overnight upon their formation?

Both were on the fringe and ahead of their time (as were the Ramones and Sabbath)- all are highly influential but none even got close to Nirvana's impact.
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Nirvana was a right place, right time overnight success due to the record-buying public having been oversaturated by Aqua-Net groups. Good for them, but the fact of the matter is Cobain's death is a lot more responsible for their lasting legacy than the music they created. I own Nirvana albums and enjoy them when the mood strikes, but let's not pretend they're less pedestrian than they are.
 
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SWIL said:
I'm not saying nirvana were the most talented or the better songwriters; they were pretty sloppy to be honest.


But you cannot argue that any other band other than the Beatles (maybe Led Zeppelin) had a larger influence on rock than Nirvana!
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MM,,,ever hear of a band called BLACK SABBATH?.
how about Iggy and the Stooges?

Nirvana was just a band that showed even people that can't play or write songs and make it.
 
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mrorange211 said:
I think I like you.
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My father taught me to like the best generation of music. I learned to like my generation (born in 1990) on my own.

If we get into solo artists this argument for Nirvana as influential as the beatles becomes even more hilarious.
 
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So you are bias toward classic rock; your opinion (as well as the others here) is starting to make more sense to me.


claiming that Cobain's suicide is the only reason Nirvana got as big as they did is what's hilarious.
 
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SWIL said:
So you are bias toward classic rock; your opinion (as well as the others here) is starting to make more sense to me.


claiming that Cobain's suicide is the only reason Nirvana got as big as they did is what's hilarious.
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not the only reason, but there is a certain level of fame that can only be had via an untimely death
 
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Nirvana put the proverbial nail in the coffin of the hair bands. I love Motley Crüe, Poison, et al, but Nevermind changed the course of music overnight. They deserve to be 1st-ballot, IMHO.
 
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Hobock said:
So, is anyone in here arguing that Nirvana should not get in the R&R HoF?
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This is the 14th year of eligibility for KISS. The fourteenth. Van Halen, a band that's several times more influential than Nirvana by any objective measure, was inducted several years after their initial eligibility, and probably only then in spite of Jann Wenner's protests.

The rock hall is a cesspool of politics. No one should be that invested in who's in or out. The hall has felt it necessary to induct groups like ABBA while true rock gems such as Cheap Trick, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Def Leppard and Joan Jett are snubbed year after year.

It has no more credibility than the WWE Hall of Fame.
 
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Scotty said:
This is the 14th year of eligibility for KISS. The fourteenth. Van Halen, a band that's several times more influential than Nirvana by any objective measure, was inducted several years after their initial eligibility, and probably only then in spite of Jann Wenner's protests.

The rock hall is a cesspool of politics. No one should be that invested in who's in or out. The hall has felt it necessary to induct groups like ABBA while true rock gems such as Cheap Trick, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Def Leppard and Joan Jett are snubbed year after year.

It has no more credibility than the WWE Hall of Fame.
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SRV not being in is an absolute shame.
 
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