Nirvana nominated for HoF

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burntorangeVOLffle said:
They're breakout album, BSSM, did come out around the same time as Nevermind and the explosion of the grunge scene, so I can see how one might lump them in. I was in middle school at the time and BSSM shirts were a dime a dozen in the halls.

You could probably throw Primus in that group as well but they were anything but grunge. In general most of the people who liked Nirvana, Pearl Jam, and RHCP, would have liked them too.
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Kingston Vol said:
Nirvana was a success because of Kurt. Not because of his death, but because he was the face needed for the grunge movement. You may or may not think they had the best grunge music, but they had the most interesting and polarizing frontman.
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This. I rocked never mind like everyone else...but the truth in the matter is their guitar and lyrics sucked... 3 chords and teenage angst...but Kurt was a sexy blonde haired blue eyed dude that made all the teenage GIRLS accept the grunge movement instead of just guys . So they sold millions upon millions. The guitarists from PJ, AnC, as well as even soundgarden were far, far superior...and IMO Staley and Vedder were way better singers and songwriters, as well as Chris Cornell who is arguably the best frontman ever...4 or 5 octave range. NIRVANA deserves to go in for killing hair bands that had run their course, but they did it just as much because Kurt was a panty dropper as because of any decent sound...there were plenty of hair bands that ducked musically but had handsome front men and made millions, too... I rate em like this:

Alice n chains
Soundgarden
Pearl jam
Nirvana

Among those 4. That's taking into consideration that PJ album TEN is one of the best albums ever recorded. Every single song is good, several are GREAT like "black" and "garden " . All the rest of their albums combined had about 6 good songs "immortality" " elderly woman" " yellow led" etc...and a whole bunch of suck. FWIW..all of the above are better unplugged , AIC unplugged is a masterpiece...solo projects were pretty good too...such as temple of the dog, and mad season....all that new talent in the 90s, coupled with 2pac and Biggie, the 2 most famous rappers all time...yeah, the 90s rocked.

Edit...forgot about quotes....Chili Peppers were and are awesome, blood sugar sex magik was a great album, though not Seattle. Flea is an amazing bassist...primus was pretty good too..."my name is mud" was a great tune back then...
 
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I think some of you are letting your preference for their music influence your decision. I agree that my like for some of their songs has lessened over the years as well. However, for better or worse, when someone mentions the 90s (Grunge, Alt., Seattle, etc.) the first band mentioned is Nirvana followed by Pearl Jam and it’s always going to be that way. That’s what establishes their legacy/influence. There’s plenty of bands that are considered great like the Eagles, but personally I can’t hardly stand them. But I do not deny their standing and level of importance.
 
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I am sorry but sound garden is not above either Pearl Jam or Nirvana. I was in seventh grade when Alive dropped and it was massive. We all sang it in the halls. Nirvana was huge when teen spirit hit. Sound garden had spoon man and black hole sun which were huge but neither album had the effect on teenagers as alice in chains, Pearl Jam, or nirvana did. My favorite album is by AIC that was jar of flies. That album rocks!
 
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rkw38 said:
I don't like their music but they should be admitted to the HoF in my opinion. They were responsible for creating a style of music that lasted for ten plus years and may still exist.
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Like them or not (and I dont), they were the last band that started a true movement in music. The grunge movement represented a seismic shift in the music scene at the time. There really hasn't been anything like that since. After growing up listening to bands with true guitar virtuosos and singers with absolutely soaring vocals, I was never a fan, as I didn't like Nirvana's oversimplified "garage" playing and Kurt's awful vocals (IMO). But they do belong in the HOF. More so than a hell of a lot of other artists who are in there.
 
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NEOCON said:
I am sorry but sound garden is not above either Pearl Jam or Nirvana. I was in seventh grade when Alive dropped and it was massive. We all sang it in the halls. Nirvana was huge when teen spirit hit. Sound garden had spoon man and black hole sun which were huge but neither album had the effect on teenagers as alice in chains, Pearl Jam, or nirvana did. My favorite album is by AIC that was jar of flies. That album rocks!
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Alice and Nirvana did everything the other bands from washington did better.
 
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Didn’t read the whole thread, but am I the only one who thinks Foo Fighters is the totally superior band of the two?

And this is coming from somebody who loved the grunge era including Nirvana.
 
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orangepridenation said:
Didn’t read the whole thread, but am I the only one who thinks Foo Fighters is the totally superior band of the two?

And this is coming from somebody who loved the grunge era including Nirvana.
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I agree, but they have been around for over 20 years now, so they’ve had a lot more time. They are probably one of the few bands to stay relevant and keep putting out great music from them till now.
 
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thehill98 said:
I agree, but they have been around for over 20 years now, so they’ve had a lot more time. They are probably one of the few bands to stay relevant and keep putting out great music from them till now.
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Yeah it’s hard to say what Nirvana would still be doing today had Kurt not committed suicide.
 
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burntorangeVOLffle said:
Yeah it’s hard to say what Nirvana would still be doing today had Kurt not committed suicide.
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I think they peaked with Nevermind and the MTV Unplugged. Outside of 1 or 2 songs, In Utero was a steaming pile. They would have probably disbanded and follow a similar path to The Smashing Pumpkins.
 
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NEOCON said:
I am sorry but sound garden is not above either Pearl Jam or Nirvana. I was in seventh grade when Alive dropped and it was massive. We all sang it in the halls. Nirvana was huge when teen spirit hit. Sound garden had spoon man and black hole sun which were huge but neither album had the effect on teenagers as alice in chains, Pearl Jam, or nirvana did. My favorite album is by AIC that was jar of flies. That album rocks!
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There is a whole lot of opinion in here... I definitely don't agree. I would rate Soundgarden as a better band than Nirvana and Superunknown as the best album of that era. It's all personal taste but no album has ever disappointed me more than Vitalogy. I think I listened to that CD twice... and never had a desire to pick it up again. Not one memorable track on it. Soundgarden never had a dud like that.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
There is a whole lot of opinion in here... I definitely don't agree. I would rate Soundgarden as a better band than Nirvana and Superunknown as the best album of that era. It's all personal taste but no album has ever disappointed me more than Vitalogy. I think I listened to that CD twice... and never had a desire to pick it up again. Not one memorable track on it. Soundgarden never had a dud like that.
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Vitalogy? Seriously? You don’t like Better Man, Courdory? Immortality? It was the second fastest selling album in history during its first week. I think you may just not like Pearl Jam.
 
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davethevol said:
I think they peaked with Nevermind and the MTV Unplugged. Outside of 1 or 2 songs, In Utero was a steaming pile. They would have probably disbanded and follow a similar path to The Smashing Pumpkins.
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I don’t know if I would call a 5 times platinum album a “steaming pile”. It was a departure in that the band wanted to go back to a more raw sound than the studio polished sound of Nevermind.

Also they included at least 3 songs from In Utero on the unplugged album which you seemed like.
 
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thehill98 said:
Vitalogy? Seriously? You don’t like Better Man, Courdory? Immortality? It was the second fastest selling album in history during its first week. I think you may just not like Pearl Jam.
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I loved Ten... I also liked Mother Love Bone (the precursor to PJ). No, Vitalogy just really sucked.
 
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TBH, I haven't listened to a Nirvana album in many years. From a musical standpoint, there's just not much there. It was a movement and a time, but almost every band mentioned in this thread was more talented and has more relevance today. Most of KC's songs just remind me why people should start away from hard drugs, and the unfortunate end of his life is an exclamation point.
 
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Plenty of AIC, STP, Soundgarden, PJ, FF, Tool, Primus, etc in my playlists.
 
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kiddiedoc said:
TBH, I haven't listened to a Nirvana album in many years. From a musical standpoint, there's just not much there. It was a movement and a time, but almost every band mentioned in this thread was more talented and has more relevance today. Most of KC's songs just remind me why people should start away from hard drugs, and the unfortunate end of his life is an exclamation point.
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It’s funny because I was really burned out on them after the oversaturation of Nevermind. There was the summer of the Unplugged album but otherwise I felt their relevance was over blown after Conains death.

When the 20 year Anniversary of Nevermind rolled around I revisited them and found myself liking it more than I did as a teenager.
 
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Here's a band that not everyone knows influenced Nirvana.
You might have heard Kurt Cobain's cover of this song "D7"
but here is the original. They're called the Wipers.


Here's where they looked to for inspiration when they got the guitar riff for "Come As You Are"


The "Negative Creep" chorus is basically a rip off of this song lol:


You probably recognize this as the song by the same name
"Where Did You Sleep Last Night" on the MTV Unpugged album:


If you listen close, you can hear the "Smells Like Teen Spirit" guitar riff
they got inspiration from this song:



Great songwriters copy. Gifted songwriters steal.

The way Nirvana was able to adapt and co-opt other people's music into their own versions and "get away with it"
deserves as much credit as if they had written their own exclusive material. I remember when I discovered how just
about every song I thought was a Nirvana song was one they "made their own" and then heard all the originals,
I appreciated their musical taste even more instead of less because they had to be creative enough to spin it into
a sound that was "unique" enough to avoid being called a cover band even though most all their songs can be traced
back to the original songwriters as the source. I didn't believe that at first since on the surface it sounds like such an unlikely
claim until you go through all their songs and match them up to a checklist of songs they got either
the exact riff, words, rhythm, concept, or musical idea from.

It makes you realize how slick their marketing and promotion was to do what they did as a kind of karaoke band/DJ type
band who made their own versions of music they appreciated.

Here's a link to where you can match a bunch of their songs (19) to the source they drew their inspiration from:
 
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