No Longer Have Best Facilities

#51
#51
Cosmo said:
Oregon's looks like a posh resort in the mountains. Wouldn't mind taking a vacation there with the wife. I mean what is up with the tub? A little too intimate for taking a soak with your teamate.:unsure: Didn't care for Bama's. Tennesse is much nicer from what I can tell.
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I agree. I wonder what message it sends to recruits. Training camp is no vacation. I could see these Ducks breaking into a little Kumbaya as they mingle the weight suite with all that ambiance and lighting. And that tub. Frankly I would be a little confused if I had to sit in there with a bunch of guys.

Tennessee's facilities are more appropriate for the purpose. And that is to manufacture an elite power football team. What is key in our design is how the outdoor field and indoor field is connected by the Weight Room backed up by Training and Therapy Facilities. Spot on Design and to the point. Has just enough fluff to impress and promote social interaction. It is perfect and fits us well. Maybe the Ducks have more of a champagne taste. Kinda funny. All said, we will not lose any recruits to Alabama or Oregon because of facilities.
 
#53
#53
VOLorNuttin said:
You mean NIKE....is winning the PR battle. They had an article on NFL.com about it, and I am thinking, WTF is a College team's facilities doing on the NFL's mainpage? They didn't do this when UT finished it's facilities all the outside articles I've read, say ours is 2nd to none.

The answer? NIKE....plain and simple. Guess who is the official uniform provider for the NFL, right now? Yep...NIKE. Dude is treating his college team like he's the owner of an NFL franchise
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I don't disagree.

Either way, they are getting publicity for facilities that are very nice, and we are letting ours be outshined because we don't seem to be pushing the information out there at a similar rate. I just don't get why we aren't letting anyone connected to any media outlet come do a story. Not just "letting" them come do a story, but compelling them to come cover the new facilities.
 
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The only thing I liked better about Alabama's (unless we have it too don't recall) the theater seating in front of two large tvs and arcade game.

I didn't like Oregon's ducks in middle of hallway, that would just be annoying to walk around. I did not like their neon yellow\green chairs either.

I gave us edge on weight rooms, but all were pretty close.
 
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daj2576 said:
The one thing that has concerned me, especially with the exceptional marketing that UT is doing in almost every other venue, is that the new facilities seem to get lost in the mix. It is almost like they are waiting for some other reason to publish it. Yes that 2 or more year old digital video is nice, but they really should have tons of images and video from the facility itself. I don't know who has the nicer facilities, but I know that Oregon is winning the PR battle. The good news is that UT and Oregon could not be farther apart geographically which means that, in general, we aren't really competing for the same recruits.
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I thought the same thing. I have seen Oregon's facilities on home page twice now. I keep waiting for ours to be mentioned. :banghead2:
 
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daj2576 said:
I don't disagree.

Either way, they are getting publicity for facilities that are very nice, and we are letting ours be outshined because we don't seem to be pushing the information out there at a similar rate. I just don't get why we aren't letting anyone connected to any media outlet come do a story. Not just "letting" them come do a story, but compelling them to come cover the new facilities.
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I totally agree. Perhaps waiting until all details/graphics/etc are complete. Our program has done a tremendous (and obviously deliberate) job of keeping a continuous flow of media to make our program appealing to potential recruits. The media sharing of the new facilities is the elephant in the room they have seemingly neglected to promote. Maybe it's their way of "luring" recruits to visit so they can see them in person. I trust that Butch & Co. realize all of this and have a plan. GBO #risetothetop
 
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My ranking:

1. Oregon
2. UT
3. Bama

Just not that impressed with Bama's. Oregon's is ridiculous.
 
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JohnnyBall said:
It was a good 2 month run for us
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:banghead2::banghead2: Regardless if we do have season media and others predict or not, does this have to keep getting shoved down our throats. Nothing personal Johnny, just tired of media in particular feeling like they have to tell us what to think and beat us down.
 
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#63
We have all that stuff except for the barber shop, tiny arcade, and fancy art. We have an anti-gravity treadmill as well as underwater treadmills. The players' lounge and theater room is just as nice.
 
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#66
Ok here it is...


Our facilities are 10 times better then those others because we can decorate with the color orange..

Oregon.. green and yellow? really? that just has to look as horrible as their uni's do.

Bama? are they even smart enough to know how to use the facilities properly?
 
#67
#67
SDV said:
Bama and Oregon are in the top 3. Crazy that we are on par with facilities and aren't even ranked and are a couple of years off from being.
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That is what happens when you shoot yourself in the foot, throw out the baby with the bath water, and blow up your football program because you are too impatient.
 
#69
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SDV said:
Bama and Oregon are in the top 3. Crazy that we are on par with facilities and aren't even ranked and are a couple of years off from being.
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Did ya' learn something? Facilities don't mean jack sheet if your reputation is in the dog's piss yard.
 
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VolBraniac said:
Did ya' learn something? Facilities don't mean jack sheet if your reputation is in the dog's piss yard.
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How do you reckon we got a No.1 ranking in recruiting, without it....Captain Brainiac? I'll hang up and listen. This ought to be good...some real mental gymnastics 'bout to go down, up in this place. :loco:
 
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VOLorNuttin said:
Basically Oregon is under the ownership of Nike. And yet we claim that scholarships are sufficient compensation for football and basketball athletes? They were getting scholarships since before WWII...before there was ever any TV and billions of $$$ dropping into the NCAA and the program's coffers.

If facilities like these and corporations funding them, doesn't prove NCAA Football isn't a quasi-PROFESSIONAL venture, what more does it take? This is BIG Business. Each SEC team is raking in over $20mill/yr in just TV contracts with ESPN alone! You're telling me that they shouldn't return a small portion of that to the very people who drive this profit-making machine?

You have 85 scholarship players. Each SEC program could easily afford to pay each player an "Added Value" stipend of $10-20K x 85 = $850k - $1.7mill. Out of what, 22mill in TV revenues alone, that isn't even 10%.

The bottom line is...if the NCAA really felt they needed to protect the amateur aspect of the sport(s), then they should have banned TV coverage long ago. They should have banned Universities from receiving licensing fees, etc. They know it's a cash cow and they are still trying to hide behind the AMATEUR label, while raking in profits as any PROFESSIONAL entity would.

The moment TV contracts and "Brand" licensing came about, it became a BUSINESS, not an academic/amateur venture. The made it a business, and they should pay a portion of the proceeds to those who generate it.
These kinds of facilities are making a damning case against the NCAA. That's why there is a major class-action lawsuit underway, already.
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Lots of good points in your post. Just a couple things to add from my perspective. I'm not a great athlete, and out of HS I was recruited to play bball at a very small college (800 students), I had a "breakout" game about the fifth game of the season, 15 points, 4 steals, 6 assists and became a starter. The next day, I had a job I wasn't looking for, paid very nice, didn't have to do much, studied on the job most days. I couldn't buy a meal in the local restaurants, someone was always paying my bill before I got it. etc. Point is I can't imagine the benefits a real athlete gets at a school with a serious program.

One thing I do like at Oregon is that 50% of all revenues from the sale of "Duck gear" go to academics. Plus, Phil Knight has made several very nice contributions to academics in addition to the obvious athletic facilities. There's the Knight Library and the Knight Law School.
 
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volsack7 said:
I find all of this to be so ridiculous. What about facilities for other athletes and sports? I get that football is the cash cow, but how can this not be considered discriminatory? NFL facilities don't even come close to the types of facilities that Oregon, AL, or we have...it all seems so frivolous to me.
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Discriminatory? I don't see the basketball teams struggling with a place to practice/workout and Thompson Bowling ain't a bad place to play. They, like the football team actually bring in revenue as opposed to other campus sports that rely on the success of those 2 sports, in large part, for funding. Discriminatory? I don't think so. The football team damn well better be successful and those new facilities help them compete to be so.
 
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