No US Flag on Mexican Holiday??

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Students Kicked Off Campus for Wearing American Flag Tees - NBCBAYAREA- msnbc.com

"They said we could wear it on any other day," Daniel Galli said, "but today is sensitive to Mexican-Americans because it's supposed to be their holiday so we were not allowed to wear it today."

How did we get to the point where anybody is even the tiniest bit concerned that wearing an American flag, on American soil, is going to offend someone because it's a holiday in their country?
 
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There was probably a better way to handle this. However, anybody who thinks that this was simply those students showing "pride" in their American citizenship, as opposed to taunting the students of Mexican heritage, is a complete idiot.
 
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lawgator1 said:
There was probably a better way to handle this. However, anybody who thinks that this was simply those students showing "pride" in their American citizenship, as opposed to taunting the students of Mexican heritage, is a complete idiot.
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Completely missing the point. (Though I suspect you knew that) You don't GET to be offended by an American flag on American soil because your home country is having a holiday. Now if a bunch of guys wearing US colors came bursting into a rally specifically for cinco de mayo shouting "Wetbacks go home!" I'd be a little more understanding with your argument. That's not what happened though, is it?
 
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Sorry, but I dont care if wearing an American Flag on a t-shirt or wherever hurts the feelings of Mexican-Americans.
 
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This is the political correctness that has unfortunately taken over our country. We have way too many wimps and the ACLU types especially in schools that are so affraid of offending someone.
 
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lawgator1 said:
There was probably a better way to handle this. However, anybody who thinks that this was simply those students showing "pride" in their American citizenship, as opposed to taunting the students of Mexican heritage, is a complete idiot.
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Who cares why they did it, this is America and if they want to wear an American flag on their shirt good for them. This is America, it's not Mexico.
 
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lawgator1 said:
There was probably a better way to handle this. However, anybody who thinks that this was simply those students showing "pride" in their American citizenship, as opposed to taunting the students of Mexican heritage, is a complete idiot.
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it's an American flag not a swastika
 
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I never thought I would see that day that you would be told by ANYONE that you cant display the American Flag, no matter why you are doing it.
 
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lawgator1 said:
There was probably a better way to handle this. However, anybody who thinks that this was simply those students showing "pride" in their American citizenship, as opposed to taunting the students of Mexican heritage, is a complete idiot.
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Unless their shirts said **** Mexico, they did nothing wrong. This is garbage.


How in the world could ANYONE be offended by this? I wouldn't be offended if they wore Mexican colors on Independence day. I find it mind-numbingly infuriating that political correctness goes this far.
 
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volfanjustin said:
This is the political correctness that has unfortunately taken over our country. We have way too many wimps and the ACLU types especially in schools that are so affraid of offending someone.
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I often find myself disagreeing with the ACLU, but I think they would support these guys. They didn't do anything wrong, and the ACLU has defended many students in school related incidents.
 
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lawgator1 said:
There was probably a better way to handle this. However, anybody who thinks that this was simply those students showing "pride" in their American citizenship, as opposed to taunting the students of Mexican heritage, is a complete idiot.
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well we certainly wouldn't want to offend mexican citizens illegally in america.
 
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tvolsfan said:
Unless their shirts said **** Mexico, they did nothing wrong. This is garbage.


How in the world could ANYONE be offended by this? I wouldn't be offended if they wore Mexican colors on Independence day. I find it mind-numbingly infuriating that political correctness goes this far.
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even then I personally wouldn't be too upset. After the abuse Mexicans lay on at/after US-Mex soccer games if should be fine
 
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BearCat204 said:
If an American Flag offends a mexican citizen LEGAL in America, then their citizenship should be revoked.
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I get the feeling that the kids who claimed to be offended will be the same ones chanting "USA" over and over again at illegal immigrant rights demonstrations to show their American pride.
 
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tvolsfan said:
I get the feeling that the kids who claimed to be offended will be the same ones chanting "USA" over and over again at illegal immigrant rights demonstrations to show their American pride.
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the overwelming majority of flags at the "day without illegals" protest a couple of years ago were mexican. after the understandable backlash the demonstrators have wised up and have distributed american flags.
 
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hndog609 said:
Completely missing the point. (Though I suspect you knew that) You don't GET to be offended by an American flag on American soil because your home country is having a holiday. Now if a bunch of guys wearing US colors came bursting into a rally specifically for cinco de mayo shouting "Wetbacks go home!" I'd be a little more understanding with your argument. That's not what happened though, is it?
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BearCat204 said:
Sorry, but I dont care if wearing an American Flag on a t-shirt or wherever hurts the feelings of Mexican-Americans.
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volfanjustin said:
Who cares why they did it, this is America and if they want to wear an American flag on their shirt good for them. This is America, it's not Mexico.
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They of course have a right to wear those t-shirts and it was almost certainly unconstitutional to have forced them to either take them off or go home.

I am not arguing otherwise.

I am just saying that it is inaccurate to assert that their motivation in wearing them was to make a statement about their own American heritage which happened to occur on 5/5. They clearly did it to get a rise out of the Mexican students.

It is perfectly legal for them to do so. I'm fine with that. But if they took the stand in a civil trial and said boo hoo, all I wanted to do was to be a patriot, if I'm on the jury I'm not giving them a cent.

They should admit they did it to antagonize the Mexican students, because that's the truth. And then say they have the right to do that, which they do.
 
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why would it antagonize the mexican students? seeing as how they are supposably americans too?
 
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I would imagine that Mex-Am students have been wearing Mexican flag/flag colored shirts since the AZ law - in particular I bet they did on May 1.

Apply the rules the same
 
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lawgator1 said:
They of course have a right to wear those t-shirts and it was almost certainly unconstitutional to have forced them to either take them off or go home.

I am not arguing otherwise.

I am just saying that it is inaccurate to assert that their motivation in wearing them was to make a statement about their own American heritage which happened to occur on 5/5. They clearly did it to get a rise out of the Mexican students.

It is perfectly legal for them to do so. I'm fine with that. But if they took the stand in a civil trial and said boo hoo, all I wanted to do was to be a patriot, if I'm on the jury I'm not giving them a cent.

They should admit they did it to antagonize the Mexican students, because that's the truth. And then say they have the right to do that, which they do.
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You're still missing the real problem here. Forget the aftermath. How is it that the answer to "We're offended by those flags on our holiday." isn't "This is America. Shut up and go back to class."?

Right out of the gate you have no right to be offended by a US flag on US soil. Everything after that is twaddle.
 
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The U.S. Flag Code, section 4-(d)


§176. Respect for flag

(d) The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery.
 
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TVOLS said:
The U.S. Flag Code, section 4-(d)


§176. Respect for flag

(d) The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery.
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Research that a little better, because it is speaking of taking an actual Ensign and using it as clothing, bedding, or drapery.
 
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