Non-Lady Vol Basketball News 2023-24

[DarkPhoenix]

I pray the complete addiction to social media can somehow be broken, or at least cracked. I realize clicks are money for a few of these kids, but is it worth it? By the end of the season Angel Reese didn't seem to think so. Please, please, for the love of God, consider putting the phone down! The number of kids and parents who refuse to consider that option, thereby letting the phone control them instead of vice versa, is gobsmacking.

The LV softball team watched The Social Network and took a pledge to limit social media use in season. They've said it's the best thing they ever did. The Iowa WBB team did the same thing, but Gabby Marshall appears to have cheated and got a very bad result for it. I remember after the WNBA draft last year, Diamond DeShields posted a couple of times (ironically to post this of course) that the best advice she had for draftees going into training camp was to stay off social media.

If it's toxic and dangerous and makes you feel bad about yourself and even suicidal, the fact that quitting isn't an option is just insane. Keep texting, family and friend pages, and team group chats but throw the rest away!

Posting online had nothing to do with the hate Angel Reese received, plenty of players post more than her and don’t received death threat and hate.

 

[brittannica]

Posting online had nothing to do with the hate Angel Reese received, plenty of players post more than her and don’t received death threat and hate.

Some people even argued her posing in SI opened her up to that kind of non-consensual sexualization, which is the most victim blaming nonsense ever.

 

[mike099]

Kelly Graves Eugene home listed for sale.

Oregon making a coaching change this late in the game?

Someone posted him getting a portal player a few days ago.

 

[DarkPhoenix]

Some people even argued her posing in SI opened her up to that kind of non-consensual sexualization, which is the most victim blaming nonsense ever.

She was referring to when they put her face on porn pictures, but when people hate u they will always find something negative to say.

 

[glv98]

She was referring to when they put her face on porn pictures, but when people hate u they will always find something negative to say.

But if you stay off social media you don't have to see and read the hate. Unfortunately, it's a price of celebrity, has been for a long time. I can't understand fishing around the ultimate insult pond.

 

[brittannica]

But if you stay off social media you don't have to see and read the hate. Unfortunately, it's a price of celebrity, has been for a long time. I can't understand fishing around the ultimate insult pond.

This situation is a little different than the death threats though. Presumably someone who loves and cares about you would reach out if nudes were circulating on the internet to make sure you either intentionally released them or that you are okay. Regardless of your use of social media you’re being harmed in this situation. I do support limits for other harms like death threats tho.

 

[sgacock]

I guess, it’s through their NIL collective but it still just seems like pay for play which is definitely still against the rules.

NIL means they are earning the money for use of the Name Image and Likeness in a branding deal. I fail to see how that falls under any type of branding or NIL.

Every time they put on a uniform, the schools is using their name, image and likeness. Every time, the school store sells a uniform with the players name and uniform the school is using NIL. Every time they license some other company to use the player name and number on a gamecock jersey to sell at Walmart, the player deserves NIL money.

Think about this. When the SEC and ESPN negotiate a new contract, they are dealing with issues of NIL.

Personally, I think the way we do it is the best. (yeah, I'm biased but I truly believe it) Every player gets money and it's all the same amount. It shares the collective money equally and the NCAA or whomever can monitor. Equality is best for team spirit. Now each player is free to negotiate her own personal deals with companies that don't involve collective moneys. Thus, a Fulwiley gets a Steph Curry shoe deal that maybe a Tessa Johnson doesn't get but that's beyond the school/team's power to regulate. Thus, one player can't be angry at the school if another player gets more.

I will put it this way. Has any school been more transparent with how their NIL works? We don't bid for players. The prospects know up front that they are going to get an equal share of the NIL collective money. The personal NIL money is up to them after they join our team.

Compare with what we know about LSU's NIL (which is nothing)

 

[brassie]

CTE is real. His brain is pulp

Not pulp - his brain is crap. I suspect it has been that way since before football.

 

[LV renaissance]

Every time they put on a uniform, the schools is using their name, image and likeness. Every time, the school store sells a uniform with the players name and uniform the school is using NIL. Every time they license some other company to use the player name and number on a gamecock jersey to sell at Walmart, the player deserves NIL money.

Think about this. When the SEC and ESPN negotiate a new contract, they are dealing with issues of NIL.

Personally, I think the way we do it is the best. (yeah, I'm biased but I truly believe it) Every player gets money and it's all the same amount. It shares the collective money equally and the NCAA or whomever can monitor. Equality is best for team spirit. Now each player is free to negotiate her own personal deals with companies that don't involve collective moneys. Thus, a Fulwiley gets a Steph Curry shoe deal that maybe a Tessa Johnson doesn't get but that's beyond the school/team's power to regulate. Thus, one player can't be angry at the school if another player gets more.

I will put it this way. Has any school been more transparent with how their NIL works? We don't bid for players. The prospects know up front that they are going to get an equal share of the NIL collective money. The personal NIL money is up to them after they join our team.

Compare with what we know about LSU's NIL (which is nothing)

Actually it has been published in the Washington Pist that LSU athletes had NIL netted between 5 and 6 million total for each of these teams: football, WBB, and gymnastics, respectively. . Interesting that MBB was under 2 Million. With the gym team just winning a National Championship and Angel and HVC leaving WBB team, the gymnastics team may have the highest NIL of all next year.

 

[brassie]

She’s getting desperate. She recruited really well for a couple seasons but didn’t do enough with it. Kids aren’t trying to live in Oxford, Mississippi to have mediocre seasons.
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The first time I've ever seen a coach begging.

 

[brassie]

Auriemma probably chartered a jet.

 

[VolBall09]

The first time I've ever seen a coach begging.

I’ve never seen it either. Not the best look

 

[StorrsCentral]

Even if you remove all my years of UConn hate there is still nothing I find interesting about Paige Bueckers.

I find her game boring, her personality is like half dried paint in interviews and mostly she just makes tik toks for social media clout.

Hard to believe she and Caitlin Clark are the same age because the maturity gulf between the two is massive.

In other news apparently NSFW images of Buckers were leaked and all the UConn fans are freaking out that she was “outed.” Wouldn’t have even known it happened if not for all the UConn fan accounts posting about it.

Wow, you are really steppin in it now. She's a tactician, running a team like it should be run, not helter skelter. If you really don't see her talent than you really don't know talent when you see it. I can imagine what you would say if she was a Lady Vol. It's mind boggling some of the stuff you come up with, so why don't you just stick to the All Americans wearing orange this year. I have never said anything bad about any of the Lady Vols this year, even though some on this forum have. Stick to your own Bozo, because its apparent you don't know real talent.

 

[brassie]

Amateur suggestion. I had a bunch of rolls of toilet tissue printed with his photo on them so I could remember 2016 every time I wipe my @ss.

That reminds me of when Jane Fonda visited North Vietnam and had the infamous photo taken of her sitting on an anti aircraft mount that was used to kill American airmen. The ship that I was on at the time had urinal cakes with made with Fonda's picture on them.

 

[brassie]

Even if you remove all my years of UConn hate there is still nothing I find interesting about Paige Bueckers.

I find her game boring, her personality is like half dried paint in interviews and mostly she just makes tik toks for social media clout.

Hard to believe she and Caitlin Clark are the same age because the maturity gulf between the two is massive.

In other news apparently NSFW images of Buckers were leaked and all the UConn fans are freaking out that she was “outed.” Wouldn’t have even known it happened if not for all the UConn fan accounts posting about it.

Glad to see that you are following Bueckers, spending so much time watching all her boring games and dried paint interviews.

 

[VolBall09]

I’ve said this before but I am SO GLAD this is the last year of Covid players for the most part.

Fully understand why they did that, but I’m tired of seeing mediocre players hold over and come back taking opportunities from younger players.

Some of these players like Sendona Prince, Taylor Jones and a few others just feel like they have been around forever.

If I have to watch Taylor Jones cry, stop the game, leave the court and then check back in 45 seconds later I am going to write to the SEC and demand a rule change lol. I found that infuriating, she did that in every game of theirs I watched and often times it changed the momentum of the game.

 

[creekdipper]

Stick to your own Bozo

My Own Private Bozo

 

[Poultrygeist]

I bet he stays around long enough to coach Strong for her 4 years, he got three of the top 11 players in the country in that class, but maybe you are right and he will depart with Paige.

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With the way she's played lately I'd take Edwards over Strong.

 

[ShortyMac10]

National championship or bust? Why coaching Kentucky men, Tennessee women is so tough

These are supposed to be dream jobs for many college basketball coaches. And yet, top candidates turned down the opportunity to lead Kentucky men's and Tennessee women's basketball. Why?

www.espn.com

 

[Volfan2012]

 

[Voltopia]

National championship or bust? Why coaching Kentucky men, Tennessee women is so tough

These are supposed to be dream jobs for many college basketball coaches. And yet, top candidates turned down the opportunity to lead Kentucky men's and Tennessee women's basketball. Why?

www.espn.com

Funny how they say Kentucky is a blue blood in spite of their relative lack of success in the last 20 years, but Tennessee's lack of success means it's just another program. More of the same from the Bristol bozos.

 

[glv98]

Funny how they say Kentucky is a blue blood in spite of their relative lack of success in the last 20 years, but Tennessee's lack of success means it's just another program. More of the same from the Bristol bozos.

If that's the biggest beef you have with this article, it says alot. Every word regarding the LVs is true and honest. Very informed and fair piece, even gave fans credit for being optimistic.

 

[House|RockyTop]

Funny how they say Kentucky is a blue blood in spite of their relative lack of success in the last 20 years, but Tennessee's lack of success means it's just another program. More of the same from the Bristol bozos.

They actually said very little of substance. I would not put much stock in any of it to be honest. It did not make Tennessee look bad. It also did not make Tennessee look good either. The moment production starts to dip at UCONN, we can revisit articles like this and see how it’s covered by the likes of ESPN. Was it similar to how they described UT WBB? Or were they more favorable to UCONN. The one issue that I believe is dumb on their part is saying it’s unlikely the success can be replicated. It easily can be replicated. That is exactly what the AD started by hiring a new coach. You can not start it by doing the same thing for another 5 years.

 

[knoxvol52]

Watch out SEC, the storm is brewing in Knoxville, Tennessee..

 

[Voltopia]

If that's the biggest beef you have with this article, it says alot. Every word regarding the LVs is true and honest. Very informed and fair piece, even gave fans credit for being optimistic.

If I were basketball Switzerland I suppose I would care about its fairness. Thankfully, I am not.

All that article did, mostly, was compare two programs, each of which have eight national titles, and ask if each was still one of the best jobs in its sport. For one, the answer was a resolute "absolutely." For the other, the answer was "that's a tricky question." It then went on to express doubt as to whether Tennessee could compete for SEC titles, saying that it only could "with the right combination of talent." Which is probably true for every single program in America, even holy and sacred Kentucky men's basketball, but somehow it's a real litmus for Tennessee. Meh. Whatever.

Remember when Rick Barnes got that call from UCLA? And all the media types talked about how Barnes just had to listen to it, because it was UCLA? UCLA hadn't gotten to a Final Four in almost two decades but even with that, it was universally understood that he had to take that call and consider that job, because it was UCLA. The history and tradition of UCLA compelled him to engage, or so we were told, over and over again.

But here, Tennessee calls people and ho hum, no one needs ol' Tennessee anymore. The difference in respect is glaring. It won't matter to the outcome, to be sure, but the difference is glaring.