Non-Lady Vol Basketball News 2024-25

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creekdipper said:
Before the season, we were counting on a healthy Tamari Key. How far would LSU have gone without Reese?

How many people placed bets that Carson would shoot lights out and score over 20 off the bench?

I disagree that we "weren't close" to a Final Four this year. I think with Key we would have made it. Whether we could have beaten LSU again would have depended how well Key could have guarded Reese. I also think that with Horston in the tourney last year, we would have made the round of Eight.

Unless you have the loaded teams that steamroll everyone and never face a real challenge, a lot of factors have to align to win a championship. You get an easier draw due to an upset in your bracket. Your opponent has an uncharacteristically-cold shooting night, or you have an unusually good one. Injuries to opponents. Opponent chokes due to unforced errors or missed free throws. Just all sorts of unpredictable things. Arkansas fumbles while running out the clock; otherwise, Tenn doesn't go on to win a football championship.

Mulkey is one of five active coaches with at least one national championship. Four of them have multiples. They all attract top talent. Credit to her for using her history and personality for assembling a talented group and putting them in a position to win. But don't sell other teams short just because they couldn't overcome major setbacks or just had bad games at the worst time.
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We can respectfully disagree. I saw nothing this year that indicates even with Tamari Key that was a Final Four capable team. And no offense to Tamari Key but she's no where close to being in the same conversation as Angel Reese.

Hopefully she can prove me wrong.
 
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WVU05UT09 said:
We can respectfully disagree. I saw nothing this year that indicates even with Tamari Key that was a Final Four capable team. And no offense to Tamari Key but she's no where close to being in the same conversation as Angel Reese.
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Not defensively? I agree on the rebounding and scoring bit. But TK has done well controlling high-scoring bigs.
 
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What Reese did at the end, particularly the chasing Clark around, was not "trash-talking" or "psyching out" a opponent. It was just straight-out taunting. Can't remember ever seeing it happen so blatantly be anyone. Usually, just looking at an opponent and yelling draws a T.

What Reese did is the kind of stuff that results in hands being thrown in the handshake line. Or balls being thrown and benches clearing.
 
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LVsinceJV said:
Sorry to say it, but this barely registers on the level of trash talk that occurs on the men's side. Bird, Jordan, Kobe were all prolific sh!t talkers, it's part of the sport.

Not saying you have to like players who do that, per se, or like their style of trash talk. They play the role of the heel and we all love to hate 'em. Makes the game really fun, imo.

Clark is a massive trash talker herself, people seem more upset about Angel's behavior towards her than she was.

Now if you can't leave it on the court, that's where my line is.
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BowlBrother85 said:
The same coach I wanted in 2019 ... when we 100% could have had her - Courtney Banghart. Would obviously be a tougher get now.
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Puke lol

Talk about a dud.

I didn’t want Kellie and still don’t want Jon. I now support Kellie because I really like the direction she took with the program. At least we have some damn dignity again.

I wanted Kim. Everyone said I was crazy, that she would never leave Baylor. Said it would be insane for her to leave a program where she had won 3 championships and “start over.”

Kim doesn’t start anything over. Kim is a winner and has proven that at every step of her career. She sets out with one goal every game. WIN.
 
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VolBall09 said:
Puke lol

Talk about a dud.

I didn’t want Kellie and still don’t want Jon. I now support Kellie because I really like the direction she took with the program. At least we have some damn dignity again.

I wanted Kim. Everyone said I was crazy, that she would never leave Baylor. Said it would be insane for her to leave a program where she had won 3 championships and “start over.”

Kim doesn’t start anything over. Kim is a winner and has proven that at every step of her career. She sets out with one goal every game. WIN.
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I don't think Kim Mulkey would have left Baylor for Tennessee. Louisiana is her home. Now, would it have hurt to make that call - which we know Fulmer didn't make? Of course not. Our sights were low in 2019. They didn't have to be.

... and I disagree with your assessment of Banghart, fwiw.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I don't think Kim Mulkey would have left Baylor for Tennessee. Louisiana is her home. Now, would it have hurt to make that call - which we know Fulmer didn't make? Of course not. Our sights were low in 2019. They didn't have to be.

... and I disagree with your assessment of Banghart, fwiw.
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Don’t think she can coach at the level our fans would be pleased with. So far she is worse than Kellie with much better players. Or at least better high school recruiting.

I maintain the Tennessee staff has fully decided to recruit the portal and take 1-2 high schoolers who are fully committed to the culture and program. I like the approach and think it’s a great way to build a championship team.

Interesting juxtaposition with LSU and Iowa today. Couldn’t have two more different programs. 9 new players and a second year head coach for LSU. No impact transfers for Iowa whatsoever and a tenured head coach with 20+ years at the same school.
 
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creekdipper said:
What Reese did at the end, particularly the chasing Clark around, was not "trash-talking" or "psyching out" a opponent. It was just straight-out taunting. Can't remember ever seeing it happen so blatantly be anyone. Usually, just looking at an opponent and yelling draws a T.

What Reese did is the kind of stuff that results in hands being thrown in the handshake line. Or balls being thrown and benches clearing.
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She did what Clark has done in many games to opposing teams. Should Reese have taken the high road? Probably. Would Clark have done this to her and LSU if the situation was reversed? You know she would have.

Two wrongs don't make it right - but sometimes the message is louder and clearer when it comes from a peer.

I personally don't believe it is good sportsmanship, but karma will typically catch up at some point.
 
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WVU05UT09 said:
Defensively sure. No question. But were talking total package here.
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I admit I don't watch a lot of wcbb but I was impressed by Reese. She was the difference in the game imo. Iowa just could not overcome her offensive boards. LSU could take any shot they wanted, and aside from the run Iowa made in the 3rd, there was a really high chance Reese was gonna get the putback layup, or the board at the very least.
 
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volfan102455 said:
She did what Clark has done in many games to opposing teams. Should Reese have taken the high road? Probably. Would Clark have done this to her and LSU if the situation was reversed? You know she would have.

Two wrongs don't make it right - but sometimes the message is louder and clearer when it comes from a peer.

I personally don't believe it is good sportsmanship, but karma will typically catch up at some point.
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Disagree. Clark can be a hot dog and showboat (the kind I hated to face as a coach). But she plays to the crowd, while Reese seems to play to the cameras. You catch Reese looking up to see if she's on tv while on the court. So much of it is orchestrated...just seems to be "me-focused" rather than game-focused. Not always...Reese can be very team-oriented, too. And Clark can lap up the attention and strikes lots of poses similar to what's-her-name in soccer.

But I defy anyone to cite a single ibstance of Clark getting in an opponent's face and personally taunting, especially during play stoppage. On the FT line, Reese was yelling at Clark to get her attention standing beside so she could Cena her. But I have never seen a player chase another player around on the floor continually while the opponent tried to turn away. You'd have thought that Clark insulted Reese's mama or shot her dog. It made Reese not just look like a sore winner but like somebody dealing with jealousy issues over the attention Clark has gotten along with POY.

And I would say the same if the roles were reversed. She (and a few other LSU players) really seemed to have it in for Clark. Weird.

You mention "the high road." What did Clark ever do to Reese or LSU?
 
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WVU05UT09 said:
We can respectfully disagree. I saw nothing this year that indicates even with Tamari Key that was a Final Four capable team. And no offense to Tamari Key but she's no where close to being in the same conversation as Angel Reese.
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Who compared Key to Angel Reese??? 🤣🤣🤣
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
^^^ This guy speaks in melodrama ... but Tennessee should have a better women's basketball coach than Kellie Harper. She was Fulmer's baby and he is gone. I have hope that White will do something.
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Don't hold your breathe. I suspect regular third place SEC finishes and Sweet 16 appearances are enough to quell the masses that matter. The Lady Vols will never be a true contender, but they're just relevant enough...
 
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Darth_Vol said:
Don't hold your breathe. I suspect regular third place SEC finishes and Sweet 16 appearances are enough to quell the masses that matter. The Lady Vols will never be a true contender, but they're just relevant enough...
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Never is a long time. Like I said before, you have a tendency to go heavy on the melodrama.
 
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Darth_Vol said:
Don't hold your breathe. I suspect regular third place SEC finishes and Sweet 16 appearances are enough to quell the masses that matter. The Lady Vols will never be a true contender, but they're just relevant enough...
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We may not even finish top 3, tbh. Watch out for Coach Yo and Ole Miss. They took down a giant in March, and she overachieved after losing a lottery pick a couple seasons ago. A win like that can change your program. I imagine some big names in the portal will at least give them a serious look.


And then after next season, Vic will be back in the SEC. Kellie better step it up!
 
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