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Because clicks and likes for anti heroes are just as valuable as those for positive role models. Sad but true. Talk about me good or talk about me bad, just talk about me. LSU has set themselves up as wrestling type villians. Strange mission for an institution of higher learning, but there we are.

Worse thing about it all is how racialized it has become. Though many have used it that way, it was never, ever about race.
 
lol Rebecca and her Elf! and yes, So Car “fams” on Twitter really are that easily offended. You wouldn’t believe.

Literally nobody can stand Lobo aside from UCONN fans. She has no business calling other team’s games. She cannot remain objective. If she calls UConn games and they aren’t playing well she literally freezes because she’s so mad and says hardly anything the entire broadcast.

She should be their in house person like Doris was/is and ESPN should fire her.

After she lied on air about voting for Rickea I was laughing hysterically. Just own it! But she can’t lol
 
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Huge day for our men's team today. I'm pretty worried if they can handle that massive guy of Purdue's who gets every whistle, but here's hoping. And hoping Santi is able to play at least some. What a rotten break to work five years to get to this point and then get the freaking flu. Go Vols!
 
So the "hit piece" on Mulkey drops an hour before their S16 game. Turns out the woman whose trademark is being a giant ahole is indeed a giant ahole. As I suspected, this is just further detail on everything we already knew. This probably makes sure the world at large is aware, not just the WBB community. Definitely designed for max reputional damage to KM. Even goes into details of her divorce.

The actual article is still behind a paywall. Here's a summary:
Mulkey, pre-publication: I will straight up sue the Washington Post into oblivion, just because I can
Mulkey, post-publication: I won’t even read the Post article but instead will yell about the LA Times.
 
Mulkey, pre-publication: I will straight up sue the Washington Post into oblivion, just because I can
Mulkey, post-publication: I won’t even read the Post article but instead will yell about the LA Times.

Ok but did you see what the LA times article said? They deserved to be yelled at.

Calling a bunch of women of color “dirty debutants” seriously? We’re supposed to think that’s ok just because Kim has a polarizing personality?

She was exactly right. The WaPo article was a big ole hit piece. Even digging into her personal relationship with her father. When have you seen the media do that to a men’s coach?

From the sound of things her relationship with her father is exactly what it ought to be. You don’t get to cheat on your wife, walk out on your family and then later enjoy their success like nothing happened.

My grandmother was an alcoholic, she wasn’t a bad person, but we didn’t have a relationship due to choices she made in her life. Families are tricky, the fact that the post thought that was appropriate territory to tread into for a sports article is abominable.
 
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Literally nobody can stand Lobo aside from UCONN fans. She has no business calling other teams games. She cannot remain objective. If she calls UConn games and they aren’t playing well she literally freezes because she’s so mad and says hardly anything the entire broadcast.

She should be their in house person like Doris was/is and ESPN should fire her.

After she lied on air about voting for Rickea I was laughing hysterically. Just own it! But she can’t lol
Fired? You are such as idiot. Lobo is a very good analyst, and if she isn't doing UConn games what is the issue? You can find any small bias in any ex-player. Do you think Peck isn't bias for any SEC team? They do their best, and if they were really bias they would be let go. I know you, you just feed on everybody else's opinion. I guess you would think that all the commentators should be Peck, Vargus, and Parker. I don't like any of them, but I don't complain about them. It is what it is, and I'm not bias about SEC people because I love Andrea Carter. She is excellent and probably the best of the bunch.
 
Indeed.. Very disturbing. How can a person who makes $7 million a year let her Father live in a trailer,?
She's capable of being extremely mean-spirited and cruel.

I mean, of course it hurt the young Kim to find out her father had cheated on her mother and then left them. That happens all the time to lots of people, and while that does hurt and is wrong, it's beyond cruel to punish someone for it for literally the rest of their life, especially as he has tried for decades to beg forgiveness and has only been completely ignored as if he were dead to her. She is sick beyond belief. Gawd.
 
Fired? You are such as idiot. Lobo is a very good analyst, and if she isn't doing UConn games what is the issue? You can find any small bias in any ex-player. Do you think Peck isn't bias for any SEC team? They do their best, and if they were really bias they would be let go. I know you, you just feed on everybody else's opinion. I guess you would think that all the commentators should be Peck, Vargus, and Parker. I don't like any of them, but I don't complain about them. It is what it is, and I'm not bias about SEC people because I love Andrea Carter. She is excellent and probably the best of the bunch.
Tennessee fans complain about Peck all the time lol. Says she compliments other team too much, newsflash her job is too be a color commentator and in studio.
 
She's capable of being extremely mean-spirited and cruel.

I mean, of course it hurt the young Kim to find out her father had cheated on her mother and then left them. That happens all the time to lots of people, and while that does hurt and is wrong, it's beyond cruel to punish someone for it for literally the rest of their life, especially as he has tried for decades to beg forgiveness and has only been completely ignored as if he were dead to her. She is sick beyond belief. Gawd.

Wouldn’t pretend we know all the details of that relationship. Parent/child estrangement is not uncommon. If there is no relationship generally there is a dang good reason why. Him abandoning his family may be the least of it so far as we know.
 
Wouldn’t pretend we know all the details of that relationship. Parent/child estrangement is not uncommon. If there is no relationship generally there is a dang good reason why. Him abandoning his family may be the least of it so far as we know.
True. But I keep thinking it is highly unlikely she would have wanted him to walk her down the aisle on her wedding day if there had been anything seriously dark or sick about her father. What broke the camel's back for her is that Kim did not want her father's new wife (or gf -- I don't remember now) sitting down front. Kim wanted the woman to sit in the back row, as far away from her and her mother as possible. And when her father didn't want to make her do that, that was when Kim decided her father was dead to her. It has been, what, 40 years? And she still can't get past that? Yikes.
 
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True. But I keep thinking it is highly unlikely she would have wanted him to walk her down the aisle on her wedding day if there had been anything seriously dark or sick about her father. What broke the camel's back for her is that Kim did not want her father's new wife (or gf -- I don't remember now) sitting down front. Kim wanted the woman to sit in the back row, as far away from her and her mother as possible. And when her father didn't want to make her do that, that was when Kim decided her father was dead to her. It has been, what, 40 years? And she still can't get past that? Yikes.

We see two different sides of the same coin my friend.
 
Because clicks and likes for anti heroes are just as valuable as those for positive role models. Sad but true. Talk about me good or talk about me bad, just talk about me. LSU has set themselves up as wrestling type villians. Strange mission for an institution of higher learning, but there we are.

Worse thing about it all is how racialized it has become. Though many have used it that way, it was never, ever about race.
You missed your own sublimated point. Just talk about me. Intentional or not, it works.
 
True. But I keep thinking it is highly unlikely she would have wanted him to walk her down the aisle on her wedding day if there had been anything seriously dark or sick about her father. What broke the camel's back for her is that Kim did not want her father's new wife (or gf -- I don't remember now) sitting down front. Kim wanted the woman to sit in the back row, as far away from her and her mother as possible. And when her father didn't want to make her do that, that was when Kim decided her father was dead to her. It has been, what, 40 years? And she still can't get past that? Yikes.
I don't know. He made his choices. Why would you want someone in your life that repeatedly chooses someone else over you? At that point, it was clear the new woman was the priority. He chose her twice. I see no problem with cutting him out. Why set yourself up for that type of disappointment over and over.

I see far greater problems with how she runs her program. She is definitely an effective winning is everything coach, but that comes with a great amount of collateral relationship damage. While her players are adults, they are young and often vulnerable and sometimes do not realize the consequences of their choices. I think she is hard for us to stomach because Pat made it her responsibility to develop her girls into whole, well adjusted people. In our eyes, that is the only standard.

Moral of the story, when someone shows you who they are, believe them!

A lot of coaches hide the dirtier, unforgiving side of themselves and their programs. Her Mulkey, at least kids and their families are shown what they are getting (although many don't seem to be able to see it clearly) and if they only want to win, she is a great option.

To me, the real work is in helping these young kids/recruits see situations for what they are, so they can make informed decisions that factor in the "unforeseen" consequences of their choices.
 
I don't know. He made his choices. Why would you want someone in your life that repeatedly chooses someone else over you? At that point, it was clear the new woman was the priority. He chose her twice. I see no problem with cutting him out. Why set yourself up for that type of disappointment over and over.

I see far greater problems with how she runs her program. She is definitely an effective winning is everything coach, but that comes with a great amount of collateral relationship damage. While her players are adults, they are young and often vulnerable and sometimes do not realize the consequences of their choices. I think she is hard for us to stomach because Pat made it her responsibility to develop her girls into whole, well adjusted people. In our eyes, that is the only standard.

Moral of the story, when someone shows you who they are, believe them!

A lot of coaches hide the dirtier, unforgiving side of themselves and their programs. Her Mulkey, at least kids and their families are shown what they are getting (although many don't seem to be able to see it clearly) and if they only want to win, she is a great option.

To me, the real work is in helping these young kids/recruits see situations for what they are, so they can make informed decisions that factor in the "unforeseen" consequences of their chI thought the piece was not a hit job,

I thought the WP article was fair except for interviewing her father. It is creepy that he agreed to do the article that his daughter clearly did not want published, and it makes one wonder about his motives (money, rewrite history that he was the victim, etc.). None of us know what really happened in their household and in the aftermath of Kim's abandonment, so for me it is not for anyone here to judge what she decided to do in her relationship with him. What is clear is that she shows all the signs of having an insecure attachment style (complete withdrawal from relationships that she perceives as betrayal), which research consistently connects this style to having a parent who repeatedly abandons you.

As a side note, I enjoyed learning more about her life. I knew she was from Louisiana, but did not know she was from Tickfaw. That was just a few minutes from where my grandparents were and where I spent weekend dodging snakes in the Tickfaw River. I also found it interesting to learn that her coach at LA Tech was all about having her clothes be a main event at the games. Hmmm, I wonder where Kim got this idea!
 
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It is what it is, and I'm not bias about SEC people because I love Andrea Carter. She is excellent and probably the best of the bunch.
Coincidentally, I also like Andrea Carter. My only complaint with her is that when we had our picture taken after a game, she refused to take off her gigantic high heels for the photo. 😂
 

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