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These girls made the rosters and are still active....Can you show me any other time that bench players were drafted and made the respective teams?????? The operative words are "bench players drafted that made a roster". You are again just spewing silliness because you are wrong. End of story. Geez.
Kiah Stokes (UConn) comes to mind as a college bench player (only started 7 games in her career) who's stuck in the league (and often as a starter), but it's pretty rare.

I remember Kelley Cain was a partial starter (about ~1/2 games, averaging only 17 minutes) her senior year at Tennessee and lasted two years in the W.

Charde Houston (UConn) is another one - I can't find how often she started but she only averaged 16 minutes her senior year and lasted 7 seasons in the W - including two as a starter.
 
Forgive me for failing to recognize the beauty of SC benchwarmers having the opportunity to be benchwarmers in the W. I thought you were saying SC's benchies (remember when Geno use to call his "the slugs"?) had gone on to be W stars.
SC's benchwarmers currently provide 52.3% of the team's total offense.
 
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I don’t understand this business model.
Some people assume that every enterprise earning revenue ought to be profit seeking.
That stance overlooks the possibility that the enterprise provides either indirect monetary benefits or non-monetary benefits or both. A business is, by definition, rent seeking.

I ran cross country as an undergrad. The team was a money loser, in a small but meaningful way. I don't recall anyone ever questioning the “business model”. Likewise the CDC and NIH, that provide extraordinary public benefits but will never break even by accepted accounting practices.

I would suggest that there is no “business model” to understand. Whether you would consider the salary an expense or a capital investment, the University chooses to spend the funds for the betterment of (1) the participants, (2) the recipient, (3) the team as an entity, (4) the athletic department, (5) the University, and indirectly, (6) women’s sports.
 
Some people assume that every enterprise earning revenue ought to be profit seeking.
That stance overlooks the possibility that the enterprise provides either indirect monetary benefits or non-monetary benefits or both. A business is, by definition, rent seeking.

I ran cross country as an undergrad. The team was a money loser, in a small but meaningful way. I don't recall anyone ever questioning the “business model”. Likewise the CDC and NIH, that provide extraordinary public benefits but will never break even by accepted accounting practices.

I would suggest that there is no “business model” to understand. Whether you would consider the salary an expense or a capital investment, the University chooses to spend the funds for the betterment of (1) the participants, (2) the recipient, (3) the team as an entity, (4) the athletic department, (5) the University, and indirectly, (6) women’s sports.
I would agree, but that doesn’t jive with the overall direction of college athletics today that is increasingly business-driven.
 
I would agree, but that doesn’t jive with the overall direction of college athletics today that is increasingly business-driven.

At a handful of schools who have sought to cast off the shackles of competitive fairness in specific sports for some time now.
 
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I know it's been posted but what an incredible achievement for coach Staley!



I don't begrudge her getting recognition or treatment for her success, so this isn't specifically about Staley getting a bag - but it's hard to understand how these schools can hand out deals like this one for programs that hover at or below revenue neutrality. Last I read, I'm not even sure how far South Carolina has operated in the green these past few years. I suppose as long as they have the external support to fund it, but with everyone and everything coming to cut a piece of flesh off the athletics programs, it just seems incredibly unsustainable.

And before anyone jumps at me, I feel somewhat similarly overpriced football coaching salaries as well.
 
I don't begrudge her getting recognition or treatment for her success, so this isn't specifically about Staley getting a bag - but it's hard to understand how these schools can hand out deals like this one for programs that hover at or below revenue neutrality. Last I read, I'm not even sure how far South Carolina has operated in the green these past few years. I suppose as long as they have the external support to fund it, but with everyone and everything coming to cut a piece of flesh off the athletics programs, it just seems incredibly unsustainable.

And before anyone jumps at me, I feel somewhat similarly overpriced football coaching salaries as well.
Market forces. Not sure how market forces are in play here. Isn’t Mulkey next on the list at around $3.1M?
 
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Forgive me for failing to recognize the beauty of SC benchwarmers having the opportunity to be benchwarmers in the W. I thought you were saying SC's benchies (remember when Geno use to call his "the slugs"?) had gone on to be W stars.
Last post about this. You do know that in 2023 when these girls were drafted that the entire SEC had 4 other players drafted besides the 5 South Carolina players. There was 1 from Tennessee, 2 from LSU and 1 from Alabama. That means Ole Miss/Kentucky/Auburn/Vanderbilt/Miss St/Missouri/Florida/Georgia/Texas A&M/Arkansas didn't have any players drafted. Not one starter.....nothing. There are hundreds of teams across the country that had no players drafted, much less become bench players in the WNBA. You have a very silly and weak comeback. I have said it before, and I will say again. Coming off the bench at South Carolina is better than starting at most school. It doesn't affect your draft ability. End of story!
 
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SC vs LSU game next week is sold out, 18,000 expected. Tickets selling online for $300-650. It’s great for the sport. The last game between these two teams was in the SECC game and it was memorable. These two programs have no lost love for one another.

TV viewership should be huge as well. The game continues to grow. Hopefully the SC/Tenn game gets the same attention.

 
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Last post about this. You do know that in 2023 when these girls were drafted that the entire SEC had 4 other players drafted besides the 5 South Carolina players. There was 1 from Tennessee, 2 from LSU and 1 from Alabama. That means Ole Miss/Kentucky/Auburn/Vanderbilt/Miss St/Missouri/Florida/Georgia/Texas A&M/Arkansas didn't have any players drafted. Not one starter.....nothing. There are hundreds of teams across the country that had no players drafted, much less become bench players in the WNBA. You have a very silly and weak comeback. I have said it before, and I will say again. Coming off the bench at South Carolina is better than starting at most school. It doesn't affect your draft ability. End of story!
What benchwarmers for SC is a bench warmer in the WNBA? Most if now at all of South Carolina's WNBA players were starters.
 
I don't begrudge her getting recognition or treatment for her success, so this isn't specifically about Staley getting a bag - but it's hard to understand how these schools can hand out deals like this one for programs that hover at or below revenue neutrality. Last I read, I'm not even sure how far South Carolina has operated in the green these past few years. I suppose as long as they have the external support to fund it, but with everyone and everything coming to cut a piece of flesh off the athletics programs, it just seems incredibly unsustainable.

And before anyone jumps at me, I feel somewhat similarly overpriced football coaching salaries as well.
No WBB program operates in the green, none.

Reasons are many, but primarily due to their TV deal, which shares their paltry TV revenue with the non revenue sports teams, unlike MBB, and even with the new TV deal is far under its true value if judged on a stand alone basis. Viewership is way up for WBB as evidenced by its latest NCAAC game which drew 18 million viewers, more than the men’s championship.

The latest decision to allow WBB teams to share in the revenue of the NCAA tourney is a step in the right direction, teams making the final four can expect about $1.25 million to be paid to their conference and shared with conference members. But it is still not the true worth of the viewership yet. TV stations are profiting greatly currently off of the rise in eyes watching the game.

But to lay this to rest, NO D1 WBB team operates in the green yet. The decision to pay a coach like Staley $5m per year is exactly as @1reVOLver explained above, it’s about more than the spreadsheet. There are many financial and social media/advertising advantages to a successful program in sports that can transcend the bottom line. The economics of which spread into a community through hotels, restaurants, travel, merchandise, donations and yes, attendance and TV viewership which will likely continue to increase and grow with the sport in general. The next TV deal should be the game changer as long as viewership stays on the rise.

It’s an investment in what is believed to be a sport on the rise. If they are correct, and the game of WBB is growing much larger, than in a few more years schools will be seeking the better coaches like they currently do in men’s sports, and salaries will climb quickly for WBB coaches. And if that’s all true, locking up Staley ahead of the curve is worth every penny. She’s the best current coach there is and it’s not close. Her past ten years are some of the greatest in the sport of course understanding past runs from UT and UConn.

But there is a good point to be made here, it’s been harder to win these past ten years than ever before.
 
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SC vs LSU game next week is sold out, 18,000 expected. Tickets selling online for $300-650. It’s great for the sport. The last game between these two teams was in the SECC game and it was memorable. These two programs have no lost love for one another.

TV viewership should be huge as well. The game continues to grow. Hopefully the SC/Tenn game gets the same attention.


This i feel will not be very close tho the more i watch LSU they are just not really good to me this will be like how south carlina did texas
 
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