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VolBall09 said:
I would agree. I do think SC played well defensively and didn’t take the opportunity to jack around and play lazy like they could have.

Vandy did not look good though. I think Ralph is going to learn the hard way that the SEC is not welcoming and it’s difficult to play in. I think she believes she’s going to bring that UCONN job with her but she is going to struggle if that’s what she is thinking.

It’s very, very difficult to recruit at Vandy. Just because they hired a former UCONN assistant doesn’t change that. It’s still Vanderbilt.
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I guess I’ve never understood that. Why is it hard to recruit there? It’s in a fun city, great academics, pretty close to the middle of the country so it’s not too far from anywhere, and a great conference. Why has it been so hard to get talent there?
 
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stlvolsfan said:
I guess I’ve never understood that. Why is it hard to recruit there? It’s in a fun city, great academics, pretty close to the middle of the country so it’s not too far from anywhere, and a great conference. Why has it been so hard to get talent there?
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High admission standards and rigorous course work. You’re just not going to find many super, super athletic kids that can also cut the mustard academically at a school like Vandy.

They end up competing for recruits with schools like Stanford and you’re just not gonna beat them out.

Traditionally you’ll get less leeway from your professors at a school like Vandy as well. They’re often staunch academics who could care less if the school offered sports or not. Less likely to make accommodations for athletes and cuts into practice time a lot.
 
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stlvolsfan said:
I guess I’ve never understood that. Why is it hard to recruit there? It’s in a fun city, great academics, pretty close to the middle of the country so it’s not too far from anywhere, and a great conference. Why has it been so hard to get talent there?
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In my opinion, it's a few things.

First, Vanderbilt is not as invested in athletics as other major programs. They are invested to a degree, but God bless 'em, they treat sports more like a function of the college rather than a business (as the major P5 programs do). That's not necessarily even a bad thing, considering what the money has done to college sports.

Second, Vanderbilt's brand is competing academically with Stanford, and athletically with Tennessee. Vandy's academics are not as renowned as Stanford's, and its athletics program is not as renowned as Tennessee's. It is in a figurative hole that it has to dig itself out of to succeed, and every time one of their major programs loses a good coach, they go right back into that hole. And, considering their school priorities, they aren't really going to try to change that.
 
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Voltopia said:
In my opinion, it's a few things.

First, Vanderbilt is not as invested in athletics as other major programs. They are invested to a degree, but God bless 'em, they treat sports more like a function of the college rather than a business (as the major P5 programs do). That's not necessarily even a bad thing, considering what the money has done to college sports.

Second, Vanderbilt's brand is competing academically with Stanford, and athletically with Tennessee. Vandy's academics are not as renowned as Stanford's, and its athletics program is not as renowned as Tennessee's. It is in a figurative hole that it has to dig itself out of to succeed, and every time one of their major programs loses a good coach, they go right back into that hole. And, considering their school priorities, they aren't really going to try to change that.
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Vanderbilt was a national power during the 90's and early 00's under Jim Foster and into Balcomb's tenure, and arguably Tennessee's biggest rival right before UConn rose to power. The game was such a big deal the programs agreed to play a home and home every year back before conference expansion when you only played the other SEC teams once, with the game that counted in the standings and the nonconference game rotating every year.

Everything is in place for the program to be successful, just need the right coach. I guess time will tell if that's Ralph...
 
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Voltopia said:
In my opinion, it's a few things.

First, Vanderbilt is not as invested in athletics as other major programs. They are invested to a degree, but God bless 'em, they treat sports more like a function of the college rather than a business (as the major P5 programs do). That's not necessarily even a bad thing, considering what the money has done to college sports.

Second, Vanderbilt's brand is competing academically with Stanford, and athletically with Tennessee. Vandy's academics are not as renowned as Stanford's, and its athletics program is not as renowned as Tennessee's. It is in a figurative hole that it has to dig itself out of to succeed, and every time one of their major programs loses a good coach, they go right back into that hole. And, considering their school priorities, they aren't really going to try to change that.
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Harvard does not call itself the Vanderbilt of the north. Good academics not elite for Vandy.
 
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VolBall09 said:
High admission standards and rigorous course work. You’re just not going to find many super, super athletic kids that can also cut the mustard academically at a school like Vandy.

They end up competing for recruits with schools like Stanford and you’re just not gonna beat them out.

Traditionally you’ll get less leeway from your professors at a school like Vandy as well. They’re often staunch academics who could care less if the school offered sports or not. Less likely to make accommodations for athletes and cuts into practice time a lot.
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I’m from Nashville, and when I was there, it was pretty well known that the football players weren’t taking Vanderbilt classes, I believe it was Peabody classes, much easier.
 
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Voltopia said:
In my opinion, it's a few things.

First, Vanderbilt is not as invested in athletics as other major programs. They are invested to a degree, but God bless 'em, they treat sports more like a function of the college rather than a business (as the major P5 programs do). That's not necessarily even a bad thing, considering what the money has done to college sports.

Second, Vanderbilt's brand is competing academically with Stanford, and athletically with Tennessee. Vandy's academics are not as renowned as Stanford's, and its athletics program is not as renowned as Tennessee's. It is in a figurative hole that it has to dig itself out of to succeed, and every time one of their major programs loses a good coach, they go right back into that hole. And, considering their school priorities, they aren't really going to try to change that.
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Like Bob Dylan said, the times they are a changin'.

The New(ish) AD is Candice Lee who won an SEC tournament championship for Vanderbilt in 2002. She is committed to restoring Vanderbilt and has initiated a $300M athletic facility that will significantly upgrade the basketball training facilities.

Vanderbilt Unveils Renderings Of Athletic Facilities Upgrades
 
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Interesting top 16 reveal

16. KSt
15. UGA
14. Oregon
13. Baylor
12. LSU
11. UConn
10. IoSt
9. Mich
8. Az
7. Texas
6. IU
5. Louisville
4. Tennessee
3. NCSt
2. Stan
1. SC

As it stands now, UConn would NOT be in Bridgeport as long as the SEC and B12 can maintain 4 teams each in the top 16.
 
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Amb3096 said:
Interesting top 16 reveal

16. KSt
15. UGA
14. Oregon
13. Baylor
12. LSU
11. UConn
10. IoSt
9. Mich
8. Az
7. Texas
6. IU
5. Louisville
4. Tennessee
3. NCSt
2. Stan
1. SC

As it stands now, UConn would NOT be in Bridgeport as long as the SEC and B12 can maintain 4 teams each in the top 16.
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16-11=5. Try again.
 
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