Non-Lady Vol Basketball News 2024-25

[Amb3096]

Was it reported it was a stress reaction? I didn't see that anywhere. If so, I don't expect her to be available for the Tennessee game.

Read on the BY that it was referred to on a press conference as a "stress reaction"

 

[youcancallmeAl]

Was it reported it was a stress reaction?

Lordy, I have one of those - at least - every day!

 

[Bballnut1952]

There's no comparison between ONO and Tamari. Key is bigger and stronger. As a reminder, UConn had a nice size advantage vs. SC and got obliterated on the boards. I expect the same to happen vs. Tennessee. The LVs rebound better as individuals and as a team. They have three players (Key, Houston, Dye) that rebound as well or better than ONO.

Size differences you noted between UConn and Arkansas aren't really that significant...2-3 inches. And both are still smaller (and less athletic) than Burrell/Horston at the wing.

When Dorka is playing, Ducharme at 6’2” plays the wing. She is pretty athletic though not as athletic as Horston.

 

[Amb3096]

When Dorka is playing, Ducharme at 6’2” plays the wing. She is pretty athletic though not as athletic as Horston.

Right...which is why I said "less athletic than Burrell/Horston". Ducharme has some nice moves to the basket, but the Tenn wings are quicker. And if she does get by them, she'll have to get by Key, and so far it seems that the concept of kicking the ball out is lost on Caroline. A little bit of a black hole, that one is.

Arkansas lost the rebounding battle to UConn by 4, and to Tenn by 14. That's with the 6'3/6'5 UConn frontline. This is not one of UConn's better rebounding teams in spite of their tall frontline.

 

[stlvolsfan]

No way. That's only a week away. She's not even cleared for practice, let alone game minutes. UConn now also has to deal with the fact that Dorka is day-to-day with a foot injury.

Honestly, there's no way Tennessee should lose this unless Tamari picks up two fouls in the first minute.

Do we know she isn’t practicing?

 

[Bballnut1952]

There's no comparison between ONO and Tamari. Key is bigger and stronger. As a reminder, UConn had a nice size advantage vs. SC and got obliterated on the boards. I expect the same to happen vs. Tennessee. The LVs rebound better as individuals and as a team. They have three players (Key, Houston, Dye) that rebound as well or better than ONO.

Size differences you noted between UConn and Arkansas aren't really that significant...2-3 inches. And both are still smaller (and less athletic) than Burrell/Horston at the wing.

I agree, there is not comparison to ONO and Key. Key is bigger and stronger. ONO is faster and more agile. But both are effective in their own way.

Key - FG% 61.2, FT% 61.3, RPG - 8.4, PPG 9.9, Blocks - 76, assists - 17
ONO - FG% 58, FT% 64.3, RPG - 8.2, PPG 9.8, Blocks - 33, assists - 74

Key is a defensive force, no doubt about it, but the match up pretty much a toss up.

I agree that UConn is not as good as past years in rebounding and Tennessee should win the battle of the boards.

 

[Amb3096]

I agree, there is not comparison to ONO and Key. Key is bigger and stronger. ONO is faster and more agile. But both are effective in their own way.

Key - FG% 61.2, FT% 61.3, RPG - 8.4, PPG 9.9, Blocks - 76, assists - 17
ONO - FG% 58, FT% 64.3, RPG - 8.2, PPG 9.8, Blocks - 33, assists - 74

ONO is not faster nor more agile than Key. That's why she gets so many blocks. She can track the guards if they drive and close in on the shooters. ONO will have a much harder time trying to score on Key than vice versa. Key has made a living of shutting down opposing post players not named Aliyah Boston.

 

[VA_VOLFAN]

That makes no sense. How can someone should have done something that never happened? They would have if the game was not cancelled. Did I not cover the way UConn has been playing?

I should have stopped at that red light... So i likely increased my odds of having an accident

SCarolina should have played uconn ... So it likely would have increased the odds of uconn having another loss

I should have stopped at the red light. So i got into an accident. The never stopping at the light didn't happen but I SHOULD HAVE done so.

Made plenty of sense to me and i'm sure my insurance and the person i hit (theoretically) would of thought it would have made sense for me to stop although it never happened

 

[Bballnut1952]

ONO is not faster nor more agile than Key. That's why she gets so many blocks. She can track the guards if they drive and close in on the shooters. ONO will have a much harder time trying to score on Key than vice versa. Key has made a living of shutting down opposing post players not named Aliyah Boston.

We will just have to disagree on the speed and agility.

Head to head?

First game

Freshman Key - 19 minutes, 1-5 from the field, 2 points, 3 rebounds, 2 blocks, fouled out
Sophomore ONO - 22 minutes, 3-8 from the field, 4-6 on FTs, 7 rebounds, 1 assists, 1 steal, 1 block, 4 fouls

Second game

Sophomore Key - 31 mibutes, 5-7 from the field, 10 points, 9 rebounds, 3 blocks, 4 fouls
Junior ONO - 31 minutes, 2-7 from the field, 7 points, 11 rebounds, 3 blocks, 1 assist, 1 steal, 2 fouls.

Looks pretty even.

Looking forward to the game. I like both players and what they bring to the table.

 

[chuckiepoo]

We will just have to disagree on the speed and agility.

Head to head?

First game

Freshman Key - 19 minutes, 1-5 from the field, 2 points, 3 rebounds, 2 blocks, fouled out
Sophomore ONO - 22 minutes, 3-8 from the field, 4-6 on FTs, 7 rebounds, 1 assists, 1 steal, 1 block, 4 fouls

Second game

Sophomore Key - 31 mibutes, 5-7 from the field, 10 points, 9 rebounds, 3 blocks, 4 fouls
Junior ONO - 31 minutes, 2-7 from the field, 7 points, 11 rebounds, 3 blocks, 1 assist, 1 steal, 2 fouls.

Looks pretty even.

Looking forward to the game. I like both players and what they bring to the table.

Great synopsis of that particular match up.

 

[Amb3096]

We will just have to disagree on the speed and agility.

Head to head?

First game

Freshman Key - 19 minutes, 1-5 from the field, 2 points, 3 rebounds, 2 blocks, fouled out
Sophomore ONO - 22 minutes, 3-8 from the field, 4-6 on FTs, 7 rebounds, 1 assists, 1 steal, 1 block, 4 fouls

Second game

Sophomore Key - 31 mibutes, 5-7 from the field, 10 points, 9 rebounds, 3 blocks, 4 fouls
Junior ONO - 31 minutes, 2-7 from the field, 7 points, 11 rebounds, 3 blocks, 1 assist, 1 steal, 2 fouls.

Looks pretty even.

Looking forward to the game. I like both players and what they bring to the table.

It's why they play the games. Looking forward to dissecting this matchup after next weekend's matchup.

 

[VolBalls33]

The end of the Iowa Ohio State game has been great. However, the Iowa player flung to the floor and wasn't even close to being fouled but the way the Iowa bench reacted it was if she was physically thrown to the floor. Clark could have been T'd with her reaction. Good win for Ohio State on the road.

 

[Argonaut]

Have been traveling so behind on the news but did see The Argonauts lost the rematch with Carroll. Bummer. Saw one of the players hit 2k pints though. Do the Argonauts have a conference tournament?

Esary hit 2k against Carroll, but I'm sure she wishes the milestone would have come during a better team performance. Their three point shooting was abysmal on Saturday and she ended up the only player in double figures.

Rocky Mountain College (#18) will be in Great Falls on Thursday to determine the regular season Frontier Conference champions. The Argos won the first matchup in Billings by 2.

 

[Argonaut]

If anyone wants a good game this afternoon, Avenida and Ekaterinburg are playing in a rematch of last year's EuroLeague finals. Game starts at 2:30EST. Avenida is led by Kahleah Copper and Katie Lou Samuelson and has a pretty damn good PG in Silvia Dominguez. Ekat is their usual star-studded selves, with Jonquel Jones, Allie Quigley, Brittney Griner, Emma Meesseman, Courtney Vandersloot, Maria Vadeeva... etc., etc., etc.

Not bad watching for a Tuesday afternoon.

https://www.youtube.com/EuroLeagueWomen

 

[mlindsay]

We will just have to disagree on the speed and agility.

Head to head?

First game

Freshman Key - 19 minutes, 1-5 from the field, 2 points, 3 rebounds, 2 blocks, fouled out
Sophomore ONO - 22 minutes, 3-8 from the field, 4-6 on FTs, 7 rebounds, 1 assists, 1 steal, 1 block, 4 fouls

Second game

Sophomore Key - 31 mibutes, 5-7 from the field, 10 points, 9 rebounds, 3 blocks, 4 fouls
Junior ONO - 31 minutes, 2-7 from the field, 7 points, 11 rebounds, 3 blocks, 1 assist, 1 steal, 2 fouls.

Looks pretty even.

Looking forward to the game. I like both players and what they bring to the table.

And the difference is TK is allowed to get beat up and fouls aren't called and when even stares hard at a person she is called. ONO gets a way with a lot of holding, grabbing and pushing and refs seem to ignore it. It happened against Morrow and the same happened the other day against Providence. I expect TK to have to sit and ONO is able to stuff the stat sheet because the refs will cater to Geno in Uconn.

 

[VolBall09]

And the difference is TK is allowed to get beat up and fouls aren't called and when even stares hard at a person she is called. ONO gets a way with a lot of holding, grabbing and pushing and refs seem to ignore it. It happened against Morrow and the same happened the other day against Providence. I expect TK to have to sit and ONO is able to stuff the stat sheet because the refs will cater to Geno in Uconn.

I doubt it. ONO loves to disappear in a game like this. If Kellie is smart she’ll force some switches early in the game and get her in foul trouble she can’t block Horston’s shot. Not athletic enough to check Burrell without fouling. Just have to make her pick them up and she’ll have to sit.

TK is really trying to play smarter. Just gets a cheap one here and there that really cost her. Thought she did a better job in the Arkansas game of not letting the fouls affect how she was playing. Lately she’s been getting timid after she picks up a couple. Last night she continued to battle and has a lot of good 50/50 plays getting her hand on rebounds and getting on the floor for loose balls.

If we do have to go small for a bit I did like the lineup we ran with Puckett. She defended well in the paint, of course Arkansas doesn’t have much going there, but she was rotating properly and blocked a couple shots protecting the rim. I don’t believe Ono can guard her in the paint or on the wing. Will be a good matchup when Sarah is in, hopefully she brings her shooting stroke. If we can force Ono to come out of the lane our forwards will absolutely have their way on the boards.

More than anything we need Dye to come alive again. Not sure if her back is really sore or if she’s just in a mental funk. She didn’t seem with it last night at all and appeared to get benched. She sat for a long time and soon as she came back in she blew two box outs and we didn’t see her the rest of the night

 

[Bballnut1952]

And the difference is TK is allowed to get beat up and fouls aren't called and when even stares hard at a person she is called. ONO gets a way with a lot of holding, grabbing and pushing and refs seem to ignore it. It happened against Morrow and the same happened the other day against Providence. I expect TK to have to sit and ONO is able to stuff the stat sheet because the refs will cater to Geno in Uconn.

It's all in the mind of the beholder. Morrow beat the crap out of ONO in that game and didn't get called for fouls.

The refs don't cater to Geno. UConn gets plenty of fouls called on them and many that UConn fans would say were unwarrented.

In the Providence game, ONO was in foul trouble early and ended up with four fouls. And the Providence player that had a career high? She went to the foul line 10 times.

Fans of all teams think their teams get the short end of the stick.

 

[chuckiepoo]

It's all in the mind of the beholder. Morrow beat the crap out of ONO in that game and didn't get called for fouls.

The refs don't cater to Geno. UConn gets plenty of fouls called on them and many that UConn fans would say were unwarrented.

In the Providence game, ONO was in foul trouble early and ended up with four fouls. And the Providence player that had a career high? She went to the foul line 10 times.

Fans of all teams think their teams get the short end of the stick.

Some fans realize the referees just flat out suck without attributing malice to plain incompetence.

 

[mlindsay]

It's all in the mind of the beholder. Morrow beat the crap out of ONO in that game and didn't get called for fouls.

The refs don't cater to Geno. UConn gets plenty of fouls called on them and many that UConn fans would say were unwarrented.

In the Providence game, ONO was in foul trouble early and ended up with four fouls. And the Providence player that had a career high? She went to the foul line 10 times.

Fans of all teams think their teams get the short end of the stick.

And Ono was beating the crap out of her too! Along with holding and other things some which could be viewed as dirty play. But of course you'll defend it!

 

[Rooster1]

The refs are not intentionally trying to help either team. Yes they miss calls, they are human. It usually evens out in the end, usually. But there is no big conspiracy within the conference or the referee community to affect the outcome of any game one way or the other. These are people trying to do the best that they can, nobody is telling them to influence the outcome of games.

Fans love to dream up these thoughts that NCAA referees hate their team, or always help the other team or there is an agenda from high up someplace that dictates the referees to be biased against their team. It's all just the emotions of fans playing out.

 

[Volfan2012]

Big players always catch more crap in games. They are highly visible and anything and everything they do is noticed. That call on Key on the Ramirez drive was laughable as she clearly blocked the shot cleaning and any minimal contact was instigated by Ramirez, but she got the call and won't be the last time the Ref misses one this badly.

 

[Rooster1]

It's all in the mind of the beholder. Morrow beat the crap out of ONO in that game and didn't get called for fouls.

The refs don't cater to Geno. UConn gets plenty of fouls called on them and many that UConn fans would say were unwarrented.

In the Providence game, ONO was in foul trouble early and ended up with four fouls. And the Providence player that had a career high? She went to the foul line 10 times.

Fans of all teams think their teams get the short end of the stick.

It really is all in the eye of the beholder as far as referee perceptions go. However, if the 6'1" frosh Morrow is "beating the crap out of" (your words) your 6'5" Junior center then Ono clearly isn't a top flite 5.

 

[Rooster1]

And the difference is TK is allowed to get beat up and fouls aren't called and when even stares hard at a person she is called. ONO gets a way with a lot of holding, grabbing and pushing and refs seem to ignore it. It happened against Morrow and the same happened the other day against Providence. I expect TK to have to sit and ONO is able to stuff the stat sheet because the refs will cater to Geno in Uconn.

You want to see classic "Fan emotions" playing out? Right here.....Now I firmly realize he believes all that he wrote, kinda. But if you push a fan like this they will go deeper, they believe in conspiracies against their team, and will go to their grave believing the refs hate their team and were trying to influence the outcome of the game against their team. It sounds wild, but it's out there in droves.

Lady Vols have attempted 428 free throws thus far, their opponents have attempted 299. That is to be expected when you have the more skilled team in almost all games.

 

[creekdipper]

I'm still trying to decode the hidden messages in Rooster's posts.

 

[mlindsay]

You want to see classic "Fan emotions" playing out? Right here.....Now I firmly realize he believes all that he wrote, kinda. But if you push a fan like this they will go deeper, they believe in conspiracies against their team, and will go to their grave believing the refs hate their team and were trying to influence the outcome of the game against their team. It sounds wild, but it's out there in droves.

Lady Vols have attempted 428 free throws thus far, their opponents have attempted 299. That is to be expected when you have the more skilled team in almost all games.

It has nothing to do with conspiracies at all but I expect you to think otherwise!

These wasn't called as fouls by the way! I guess this is a conspiracy too!