North Carolina State would be perfect

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Calculon said:
I don't believe that anyone from the ACC will come to the SEC. The conference just added two big markets, one being the biggest in the nation, and I don't think the SEC will want to pay the buyout for any of the ACC schools.
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Are you saying Syracuse brings the entire NYC market?
 
#52
#52
rockytop9808 said:
Are you saying Syracuse brings the entire NYC market?
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It is a foot in the door. No single team will bring you all of any market. I'm not even sure why you would ask that other than to attempt to minimize what the ACC has done. It was enough to make the member schools vote to make it harder to leave and increase the buyout. And as far as tv contracts go, NYC sure won't hurt them.

As it stands, poaching their schools will be harder to do now. It is unlikely IMO. Just saying "We're the SEC." is not going to be enough unless a particular school wanted to go in the first place. Their expansion seems to have pacified the member schools for now.
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#53
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Calculon said:
It is a foot in the door. No single team will bring you all of any market. I'm not even sure why you would ask that other than to attempt to minimize what the ACC has done. It was enough to make the member schools vote to make it harder to leave and increase the buyout. And as far as tv contracts go, NYC sure won't hurt them.

As it stands, poaching their schools will be harder to do now. It is unlikely IMO. Just saying "We're the SEC." is not going to be enough unless a particular school wanted to go in the first place. Their expansion seems to have pacified the member schools for now.
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That's exactly opposite of everything I've heard from FSU fans.

The NYC college market is absolutely dominated by Notre Dame.
 
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#55
wake forest? They are basketball competitors and they have played SEC teams recently giving Vandy someone to play annually with same academic standards almost. They also have been in ACC title game in recent years so just a thought.
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Velo Vol said:
I believe Rutgers is the biggest draw in NYC, Notre Dame is second.

Then again, people there don't care about college football anyway.
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Horribly incorrect.

Notre Dame has a built in fanbase- Catholics. From my experience, a lot of them are huge Notre Dame fans. Do you know how many Catholics are in New York City?
 
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#58
What's horribly incorrect is assuming all Catholics are notre dame fans.
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golfballs03 said:
What's horribly incorrect is assuming all Catholics are notre dame fans.
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Regardless, Notre dame pretty much owns the new York city market.

Their combination of being huge in NYC, Chicago, and Indianapolis is what pretty much what has allowed them to carry their own network deal on basic cable
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golfballs03 said:
Not the data I've seen. Including what was published last week in the nyt
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That same data said that Kentucky had the second largest fanbase in the SEC, and that there are more Arkansas State fans in Arkansas than there are Razorbacks.

The census itself said the map is inaccurate.
 
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rockytop9808 said:
That same data said that Kentucky had the second largest fanbase in the SEC, and that there are more Arkansas State fans in Arkansas than there are Razorbacks.
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No, that data was then adjusted based on athletic department revenues
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TrueOrange said:
Regardless, Notre dame pretty much owns the new York city market.

Their combination of being huge in NYC, Chicago, and Indianapolis is what pretty much what has allowed them to carry their own network deal on basic cable
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Mostly Chicago
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#68
#68
rockytop9808 said:
Horribly incorrect.
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Whoops, that came from that goofy CommonCensus thing, so it may or may not be accurate.

The Geography of College Football Fans (and Realignment Chaos) - NYTimes.com

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#69
Even applying a reasonable standard deviation to that estimate, rutgers is still just as large of a draw to the ny market as Notre dame
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#71
#71
golfballs03 said:
Even applying a reasonable standard deviation to that estimate, rutgers is still just as large of a draw to the ny market as Notre dame
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You're helpless.

The census data is so skewed it's almost laughable, and the people who created the project admit that it should be taken with a whole shaker of salt. There is no way to get an accurate deviation from a sample size that is, at its foundation, that inaccurate.
 
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rockytop9808 said:
Counting a sham of an internet survey is even more idiotic.

How many Catholic people do you know?
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Ha. That's what I thought.

You can't present anything better than anecdotal evidence based on the catholic people you know.
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#74
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golfballs03 said:
Ha. That's what I thought.

You can't present anything better than anecdotal evidence based on the catholic people you know.
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Which happens to be a pretty sizable sample, since my mother teaches at the largest Catholic school in southwest Virginia.

Tell me again, how many do you know?

I'd say anecdotal evidence far outweighs a survey that, as I said earlier, is absolutely riddled with flaws. You've got zero ability to criticize anyone else's evidence when you clearly display a sickening lack of reasoning skill.
 
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rockytop9808 said:
Which happens to be a pretty sizable sample, since my mother teaches at the largest Catholic school in southwest Virginia.

Tell me again, how many do you know?

I'd say anecdotal evidence far outweighs a survey that, as I said earlier, is absolutely riddled with flaws. You've got zero ability to criticize anyone else's evidence when you clearly display a sickening lack of reasoning skill.
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LOL

I've gone to catholic schools my entire life and my girlfriend is part of a very large catholic family. So what? I guess your mom is an expert on the NYC football tv market?

Even a terribly flawed survey like this is still better than your mom's intuition about catholic new yorkers tv watching habits.
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