North Iowa Tea Party billboard

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#52
It's very common now to compare or call everybody who disagrees with you a Nazi or a Commie. It is beyond stupid and insulating, nothing Obama had done is anywhere close to as bad as what Hitler or Lenin did. It is as dumb as the the war protesters who compared Hitler and Bush.
 
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IPorange said:
Hitler believed in social justice?
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"Socal justice" is a code phrase for whatever your enemies want to re-package your politics into.

I mean, I could argue that the tea party's platform of cutting social spending and then taxes for the wealthy is their own brand of "social justice" because it rewards those who work and invest and that is justice.
 
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lawgator1 said:
"Socal justice" is a code phrase for whatever your enemies want to re-package your politics into.

I mean, I could argue that the tea party's platform of cutting social spending and then taxes for the wealthy is their own brand of "social justice" because it rewards those who work and invest and that is justice.
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That is not the common use of social justice. Believe me, I work with SJ advocates and it's all about redistributive policies and using government to "equalize" everyone.
 
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Essentially this is what bothers me most about the whole Tea Party movement. I was very discouraged when CSpan aired their "convention" and a birther was a keynote speaker. Tired and exaggerated analogies aren't nearly as effective as the singular message that voters refuse to accept taxation without representation. Forget about birth certificates and looney right wing crap. Focus on the economics and the "new taxes" and I guarantee returns in November.
 
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Lexvol said:
Essentially this is what bothers me most about the whole Tea Party movement. I was very discouraged when CSpan aired their "convention" and a birther was a keynote speaker. Tired and exaggerated analogies aren't nearly as effective as the singular message that voters refuse to accept taxation without representation. Forget about birth certificates and looney right wing crap. Focus on the economics and the "new taxes" and I guarantee returns in November.
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I agree with you, but there's no denying the Tea Partiers are developing a following and will be a factor in upcoming elections.
 
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Lexvol said:
Essentially this is what bothers me most about the whole Tea Party movement. I was very discouraged when CSpan aired their "convention" and a birther was a keynote speaker. Tired and exaggerated analogies aren't nearly as effective as the singular message that voters refuse to accept taxation without representation. Forget about birth certificates and looney right wing crap. Focus on the economics and the "new taxes" and I guarantee returns in November.
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The number of people who are willing to put together signs and go to a lot of rallies because they are angry about government spending is way small compared to the number that will show up because they see it as a chance to take a cheap swipe and someone they personally dislike, even hate.

It is in many ways a shame that the tea party -- which in fiscal policy is a movememnt that makes a lot of sense and has a lot to say -- is overrun with the "lonney right wing," as you put it.

I'd wager that, like you, a lot of those who sympathize with tea party policy on taxation and overspending absolutely cringe at billboards like this.
 
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lawgator1 said:
"Socal justice" is a code phrase for whatever your enemies want to re-package your politics into.

I mean, I could argue that the tea party's platform of cutting social spending and then taxes for the wealthy is their own brand of "social justice" because it rewards those who work and invest and that is justice.
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how in the hell is it a reward to TAKE LESS from those who actually find a way to earn their living? That's ludicrous.

I would bet that the enormous majority would be happy paying their share for essential government services. The fact that our government views fixing everyone's problems as essential shouldn't be held against the people footing the bill.
 
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lawgator1 said:
The number of people who are willing to put together signs and go to a lot of rallies because they are angry about government spending is way small compared to the number that will show up because they see it as a chance to take a cheap swipe and someone they personally dislike, even hate.
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this is more of your senseless, and utterly worthless, Joe Sixpack style commentary. Just keep the psychoanalysis of the majority to yourself.
 
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lawgator1 said:
The number of people who are willing to put together signs and go to a lot of rallies because they are angry about government spending is way small compared to the number that will show up because they see it as a chance to take a cheap swipe and someone they personally dislike, even hate.

It is in many ways a shame that the tea party -- which in fiscal policy is a movememnt that makes a lot of sense and has a lot to say -- is overrun with the "lonney right wing," as you put it.

I'd wager that, like you, a lot of those who sympathize with tea party policy on taxation and overspending absolutely cringe at billboards like this.
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i thought it was just joe six you had a mind meld with. interesting.
 
#63
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lawgator1 said:
The number of people who are willing to put together signs and go to a lot of rallies because they are angry about government spending is way small compared to the number that will show up because they see it as a chance to take a cheap swipe and someone they personally dislike, even hate.

It is in many ways a shame that the tea party -- which in fiscal policy is a movememnt that makes a lot of sense and has a lot to say -- is overrun with the "lonney right wing," as you put it.

I'd wager that, like you, a lot of those who sympathize with tea party policy on taxation and overspending absolutely cringe at billboards like this.
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I don't know about your first point. People that I personally know that have been to rallies are well educated. What they hate is the idea of wealth redistribution.

There is no question about it...that message is strong enough without the sensationalism on display in Iowa.
 
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Lexvol said:
Essentially this is what bothers me most about the whole Tea Party movement. I was very discouraged when CSpan aired their "convention" and a birther was a keynote speaker. Tired and exaggerated analogies aren't nearly as effective as the singular message that voters refuse to accept taxation without representation. Forget about birth certificates and looney right wing crap. Focus on the economics and the "new taxes" and I guarantee returns in November.
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I agree but political movements are rarely singularly focused. It would be nice though if the primary spokespeople stuck to the core focus.
 
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volinbham said:
I agree but political movements are rarely singularly focused. It would be nice though if the primary spokespeople stuck to the core focus.
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A lot of nasty agendas there, though. At a rally, a speech about the size of the deficit is a yanwer. A speech about Obama being a secret agent socialist Muslim spy who wants to destroy America is way more fun.
 
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volinbham said:
I agree but political movements are rarely singularly focused. It would be nice though if the primary spokespeople stuck to the core focus.
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A few folks I know who have gotten involved with the movement want it to be a education-based movement on cutting govt spending and massive deficits. I can almost promise none of the ones I know would approve of this billboard.

As young as it is, I could legitimately see this movement breaking into the legitimate economical concept group and the wacko group. The biggest issue to date is that it's still very loosely organized and each group for the most part operated autonomously from the others.
 
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droski said:
link?
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lawgator1 said:
A lot of nasty agendas there, though. At a rally, a speech about the size of the deficit is a yanwer. A speech about Obama being a secret agent socialist Muslim spy who wants to destroy America is way more fun.
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The deficit spending and the implications it brings is what they should stick to. The problem is if they talk the talk they will have to walk the walk when the time comes and as we have seen for some time both parties have been horrid at controlling spending recently.
 
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KB5252 said:
The deficit spending and the implications it brings is what they should stick to. The problem is if they talk the talk they will have to walk the walk when the time comes and as we have seen for some time both parties have been horrid at controlling spending recently.
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period. It will win many coming elections. Walking the walk will further stem the tide of government advancement.
 
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droski said:
where's the speach?
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it would appear that in addition to his skills as an attorney, LG is also an accomplished photo-shopper.


btw, the left in this country loved Hitler right up to the moment the Concentration camps were discovered
 
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