Not even a glimpse of Dobbs or Ferguson

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#151
coug said:
Two games in and we haven't even gotten a chance to see either of these guys. Rest assured you won't see them the next two games. Maybe by Kentucky if at all. Butch had plenty of lead and time to the last two games to give them at least a single possession.
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Did not expect to see either of them. Probably will not see one of them unless/until Worley is injured or after the Alabama game.
 
#152
#152
While WKU was more of a challenge than AP we'll really see what Worley and the team have against Oregon. If nothing else it'll definitely be a learning experience.
 
#153
#153
Freak said:
Both won't play. And I think one issue is once you play one of them, you've made your choice of which is better and which will redshirt. Jmo.
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Better? Perhaps assimilated the new O more quickly? Or more physically capable. Better today but maybe not tomorrow.

No biggee naming "better".
 
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#154
UTodd01 said:
Worley has nothing to offer. It'd be different if he had some sort of Peyton-esque understanding of the offense but he doesn't. I'd even be okay with a cannon arm and below average accuracy or vice versa - but he has neither.
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The upside on Worley is shallow. His arm strength isn't going to majickally increase. He isn't going to receive divine inspiration in decision-making or gain Mercury's foot speed.

Will he get better? Can he get worse?
 
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Tenn Ted said:
Or we stay with Worley and not throw the newbies to the wolves for what is going to be not a very good season any way.
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This assumes Peterman is out of the equation. From the Wky game, that's a fair assumption.

The kids will play when Jones figures that he has to get them time to prepare for his review years 3 and 4. This year is a toss; next year is a toss.

The only thing that will push these kids onto the playing field is if Worley is so gawdawful that Jones has no other choice. The fans are beating their drums loudly, embarrassment isn't a coaches best friend.

That, sir, is entirely a possibility. Worley has the 'ability' to bring forth the clamouring.
 
#157
#157
I'm imagining that we're going to see a 2 QB system against Oregon.Will give us another dimension on offense and something that Oregon will have not seen much of on film. I imagine we'll run the read option in some short yardage and goal line situations with Peterman, just a hunch though.
 
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#158
Gp_rocky top said:
I'm imagining that we're going to see a 2 QB system against Oregon.Will give us another dimension on offense and something that Oregon will have not seen much of on film. I imagine we'll run the read option in some short yardage and goal line situations with Peterman, just a hunch though.
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I don't see this happening, at least not right now. Worley will be in the entire 4 quarters of this Saturday's game against Oregon unless something catastrophic happens.
 
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#159
ric1958 said:
Only an idiot would burn a RS while winning games by 45 an 32 points. If Oregon hangs 50 to 80 points on us next week like a lot of people are predicting on VN then you wont see either of them next week either. Unless Worley or Peterman goes down for the season you wont see either of them this year.
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True...but that won't keep them [idiots] for screaming for Dobbs to be put in the game...
 
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#160
Gp_rocky top said:
I'm imagining that we're going to see a 2 QB system against Oregon.Will give us another dimension on offense and something that Oregon will have not seen much of on film. I imagine we'll run the read option in some short yardage and goal line situations with Peterman, just a hunch though.
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I disagree. We have the read option in our book but Oregon lives the read option - they can defend it in their sleep. What they aren't used to is a team lining up and playing power football...we can't win against them playing their game - we need to line up and play smash mouth football...our OL needs to inflict pain on their D [and that was one of Butch Jones' goals when he challenged the line to slim down and be more athletic]. Our D line needs to inflict pain on their O...every time they run the read option both the QB and the RB need to be taken to the ground with extreme violence.

We are not a finesse team - we are physical team and want to pound them into submission. In the Frazier vs Ali analogy, we’re Smokin’ Joe and we’re coming to hurt you...you may win the game but you’re gonna be black and blue for a week...
 
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#161
Sarms58 said:
I disagree. We have the read option in our book but Oregon lives the read option - they can defend it in their sleep. What they aren't used to is a team lining up and playing power football...we can't win against them playing their game - we need to line up and play smash mouth football...our OL needs to inflict pain on their D [and that was one of Butch Jones' goals when he challenged the line to slim down and be more athletic]. Our D line needs to inflict pain on their O...every time they run the read option both the QB and the RB need to be taken to the ground with extreme violence.

We are not a finesse team - we are physical team and want to pound them into submission. In the Frazier vs Ali analogy, we’re Smokin’ Joe and we’re coming to hurt you...you may win the game but you’re gonna be black and blue for a week...
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I think we can play good football without being tastelessly violent.
 
#162
#162
Dobbs has been used a lot this week, as a scout team QB to get them prepared for Mariota at Oregon. I heard John Brice from VQ on the radio this morning talking about it.
 
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#163
chavisut said:
So give up on this season?
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No, I think he'll play one of them if he needs to make a change to win. Right now he doesn't need to do that.

The Dobbs, Fergy situation is tricky in my book. On the one hand, you have Dobbs who made a last minute decision to come to UT. If you play Fergy then Dobbs begins to question his decision and transfers. On the other hand, Fergy stayed true to his commitment when CDD was fired, so how do you maintain that loyalty if you put Dobbs in now? Both will struggle, especially against the meat of the schedule, so why not keep what you have and develop them for the future?
 
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#164
coug said:
I think we can play good football without being tastelessly violent.
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I'm not advocating cheap hits...just strong, physical football...a physical team breaks the will of it's opponent by hitting them hard every play...the Ducks will look to break our will by playing as such an up tempo that it induces fatigue...

Knock them on their butts every play but then do help them up and ask how their momma's doing...
 
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Freak said:
Both won't play. And I think one issue is once you play one of them, you've made your choice of which is better and which will redshirt. Jmo.
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only problem is, they are going to be competing with each other for 5 full years and one will prob end up leaving because he'll inevitably never get playing time.
 
#168
#168
Well there will be no QB recruit for 2014 so the redshirts will fall right in line.
 
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