Notre Dame preparing "major" offer for Urban Meyer?

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VolunteerHillbilly said:
Zook is willing to return on an interim basis.
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:) We would all love that. True or not, these rumors certainly are entertaining. Me personally, would love to see Meyer go to ND. The next couple years are going to be harder on him. He's losing his right hand man to god and almost his whole defense next year. Perfect time for him to exit.
 
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If Urban declines as I expect, Brian Kelly will be the next head coach at ND. All they have to do is call. Book it.
 
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VOLinthaATL said:
If Urban declines as I expect, Brian Kelly will be the next head coach at ND. All they have to do is call. Book it.
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Kelly has a pretty good thing going. If ND tries to lowball the guy it could blow up in thier faces. One thing I'd keep an eye on is who Louisville hires. Kelly's job could get alot harder if Louisville can get a really aggressive recruiter.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
Kelly has a pretty good thing going. If ND tries to lowball the guy it could blow up in thier faces. One thing I'd keep an eye on is who Louisville hires. Kelly's job could get alot harder if Louisville can get a really aggressive recruiter.
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The fact that Kelly is probably going to go undefeated and get left out of the National Title game will go along way in him jumping to ND if they offer. Cincy will never be respected unless the Big East drastically improves and that is a long way off and he knows it...
 
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The Big East right now just seems like a league where every team is a couple of recruiting classes away from dominating the conference or going in the tank. I could totally see Fulmer taking a job at a Big East school if offered solely for that reason.
 
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Meyer would sacrifice one of his children for that contract.

Far fetched, but absolutely stunning if true.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
More like he HAS to recruit nationally at Notre Dame.

The Indiana in-state talent isn't enough to build, let alone sustain a championship program.
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True but Weis brought some top talent there. Is there really any doubt that Urban could do the same and actually win with it though?
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
More like he HAS to recruit nationally at Notre Dame.

The Indiana in-state talent isn't enough to build, let alone sustain a championship program.
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Notre Dame is 90 minutes from Chicago and 3 hours from Detroit. There are players in the area. The point is that they can, better than any program in the country, also go out of the area.
 
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buckeyevol23 said:
True but Weis brought some top talent there. Is there really any doubt that Urban could do the same and actually win with it though?
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Meyer recruits nationally now at UF, so there's no doubt whatsoever he can do it at Notre Dame.

My point was Indiana doesn't have local high school talent anywhere near the caliber of Florida.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
Meyer recruits nationally now at UF, so there's no doubt whatsoever he can do it at Notre Dame.

My point was Indiana doesn't have local high school talent anywhere near the caliber of Florida.
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Gotcha, but like you said, Meyer wouldn't have an issue with it. It'd be interesting to see how Kelly or another candidate would do though if hired.
 
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cotton said:
Notre Dame is 90 minutes from Chicago and 3 hours from Detroit. There are players in the area. The point is that they can, better than any program in the country, also go out of the area.
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Yes they can, but I would argue that other programs like Southern Cal also pull in ridiculous talent from all over the map.

To say Notre Dame is best equipped is a bit of a reach. There are several programs out there with the resources to recruit nationally.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
Meyer recruits nationally now at UF, so there's no doubt whatsoever he can do it at Notre Dame.

My point was Indiana doesn't have local high school talent anywhere near the caliber of Florida.
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You are limiting Notre Dame's home field recruiting area to Indiana state borders, which is in error. Include the metros within a half-day's drive plus every Catholic school in the country, then add any other kid with decent academics who might consider traveling for school, and you have a much more realistic footprint.
 
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buckeyevol23 said:
Gotcha, but like you said, Meyer wouldn't have an issue with it. It'd be interesting to see how Kelly or another candidate would do though if hired.
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I never said Urban wouldn't have an issue with it, only that he could successfully recruit nationally at ND like he's done at UF. Meyer's wife would have an issue with it, which makes it everyone's issue.

Urban's said on several occasions the national recruiting demands would take away from his family responsibilities.

He's also said Notre Dame is his dream job.

Stay tuned....
 
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cotton said:
You are limiting Notre Dame's home field recruiting area to Indiana state borders, which is in error. Include the metros within a half-day's drive plus every Catholic school in the country, then add any other kid with decent academics who might consider traveling for school, and you have a much more realistic footprint.
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The current 4-hour drive to South Florida on the turnpike trumps a half-day drive in the snow.

I'll take Florida's talent over the Midwest all day every day.

But I get what you're saying about ND's footprint. It is much more than just the state of Indiana.
 
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If it was up to me, I would much rather see Urb stick around, loose ground in the in-state recruiting wars to FSU and Miami, lose his talent edge in the SEC East and eventually be forced out at UF by angry Gator fans after a few consecutive 7-9 win seasons (hopefully including several losses to the Vols).
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
Yes they can, but I would argue that other programs like Southern Cal also pull in ridiculous talent from all over the map.

To say Notre Dame is best equipped is a bit of a reach. There are several programs out there with the resources to recruit nationally.
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Where did I say anything about equipment or resources? I think you are still missing the point.

What other school can tell a prospect they will be on national network television 12 times a year?

What other school can guarantee a BCS bowl if they go 9-3 against a schedule that lacks any conference foes?

What other school can guarantee that at 6-2, they are assured to have the frontrunner for the Heisman?

National Championships? Check. Fame? Check. NFL draft choices? Check.

The school has a ton of advantages, maybe more than anyone else, and eventually somebody is going to put them to good use again. To think otherwise is a mistake.
 
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A 10-year, $50M contract may sound absurd, but I think ND is getting so desperate to start winning again that I wouldn't be shocked if this turns out to be true.

UF had better be prepared to open up its wallet bigtime...
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
If it was up to me, I would much rather see Urb stick around, loose ground in the in-state recruiting wars to FSU and Miami, lose his talent edge in the SEC East and eventually be forced out at UF by angry Gator fans after a few consecutive 7-9 win seasons (hopefully including several losses to the Vols).
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I don't understand why some of your fans want him to leave. I'd want Meyer to stick around long enough to even the score to the point where he's asked to leave by his AD.

As for recruiting, UF is on the verge of signing a monster class. FSU is in our rear view mirror. The Bobby Bowden soap opera coupled with the pending NCAA ruling will only hurt them long term. On the other hand Miami has done very well and will continue to recruit well as long as they get the best high school players in Dade and Broward.
 
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VolunteerHillbilly said:
If it was up to me, I would much rather see Urb stick around, loose ground in the in-state recruiting wars to FSU and Miami, lose his talent edge in the SEC East and eventually be forced out at UF by angry Gator fans after a few consecutive 7-9 win seasons (hopefully including several losses to the Vols).
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My dream scenario has Urban Meyer holding a press conference, telling everyone that he made a Faustian deal with Satan, exposing Tebow as a cyborg sent from the future as somebody's odd idea of a practical joke, then vacating all of his wins in penance before leaving for a life of quite meditation in the Tibetan mountains.
 
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cotton said:
My dream scenario has Urban Meyer holding a press conference, telling everyone that he made a Faustian deal with Satan, exposing Tebow as a cyborg sent from the future as somebody's odd idea of a practical joke, then vacating all of his wins in penance before leaving for a life of quite meditation in the Tibetan mountains.
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Sounds like except for the last part. I may want to visit Tibetan mountains someday.
 
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cotton said:
Where did I say anything about equipment or resources? I think you are still missing the point.

What other school can tell a prospect they will be on national network television 12 times a year?

What other school can guarantee a BCS bowl if they go 9-3 against a schedule that lacks any conference foes?

What other school can guarantee that at 6-2, they are assured to have the frontrunner for the Heisman?

National Championships? Check. Fame? Check. NFL draft choices? Check.

The school has a ton of advantages, maybe more than anyone else, and eventually somebody is going to put them to good use again. To think otherwise is a mistake.
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Notre Dame definitely has advantages, but SEC teams like Florida, Alabama, LSU and Tennessee are on TV every week too. Hell, everyone's got cable, and this past Saturday there were no less than SIX games being televised in the noon slot. The TV argument is overrated.

Going 9-3 and getting an invite to a BCS is great if you're okay with getting absolutely destroyed by a quality opponent in that BCS bowl. Coaches recruiting against Notre Dame already have this one covered. Look at Notre Dame's track record in BCS bowls.

You're on crack if you think Jimmy Clausen is the current Heisman frontrunner. If he wins I'll buy you and three buddies a round of beer at the Copper Cellar next September. Brady Quinn was a fraud too.

National championships in a 2010 recruit's lifetime? Nope. Next year's recruits weren't born the last time ND won it all. The great Nebraska and FSU teams of the 90s are ancient history to these kids.

Fame? Sure. It's Notre Dame. Their history and tradition is unmatched. Is that enough for a 5-star stud to choose South Bend over Tuscaloosa, Los Angeles, Austin or Columbus? Maybe.

Notre Dame does have advantages, I don't deny that. Would Meyer succeed there? Absolutely...he's succeeded everywhere he's been.

But the fact of the matter is it will be much more difficult, in spite of all of the advantages Notre Dame has, to build and sustain a dominant program in South Bend as compared to places like UF, Ohio State, Southern Cal and Texas.
 
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