Now Biden is coming for your washing machine

#51
#51
Not to mention all the reduced operating costs from less fuel, less irrigation, pesticides, herbacides, etc., and the increased health and environmental benefits of same. Enough to make you think a farmer could make a profit and not rely so heavily on taxpayer subsidies.
The thing is it's not about the farmer. It's not about the environment, or healthcare. The left is ushering in literal fascism disguised under goofy false "socialism". The end state desired by these people is a controlled society dominated by a megacorp/government alliance.
 
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Ours is an LG that takes over an hour to wash a load, and over an hour to dry a load, even with very limited water. I have to do my gym clothes in their own load or they won't get clean. It's pretty bad.
The whole point is, why not give people a choice? What Biden is proposing is that your choice will be made for you by some nameless unelected bureaucrat sitting in a cubicle in DC.
 
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The whole point is, why not give people a choice? What Biden is proposing is that your choice will be made for you by some nameless unelected bureaucrat sitting in a cubicle in DC.
And said nameless bureaucrat in DC likely doesn't even do their own laundry, instead sourcing it through services here like Dryy.
 
#56
#56
Ours is an LG that takes over an hour to wash a load, and over an hour to dry a load, even with very limited water. I have to do my gym clothes in their own load or they won't get clean. It's pretty bad.
Does your LG spawn dozens of Volnation threads daily about how evil Trump, Tucker Carlson, and DeSantis are? 😉
 
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And said nameless bureaucrat in DC likely doesn't even do their own laundry, instead sourcing it through services here like Dryy.
Laundry?? Are you kidding? Biden Bureaucrats don’t even NEED laundry . When they need new clothes, they just go to the airport luggage pickup and help themselves 😂
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Ours is an LG that takes over an hour to wash a load, and over an hour to dry a load, even with very limited water. I have to do my gym clothes in their own load or they won't get clean. It's pretty bad.

We do have the agitator. Wife is quite happy with the LG models we got. I'd have to concur.
 
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The thing is it's not about the farmer. It's not about the environment, or healthcare. The left is ushering in literal fascism disguised under goofy false "socialism". The end state desired by these people is a controlled society dominated by a megacorp/government alliance.

there was a time I'd have considered all this crazy talk. But, I've learned what government and politicians are really about and all this talk appears to be not so crazy.
 
#63
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there was a time I'd have considered all this crazy talk. But, I've learned what government and politicians are really about and all this talk appears to be not so crazy.
I think pre-COVID it was justifiable to call it crazy talk. After COVID, there's not much of a case against it.
 
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Can you even read?

He's purchased the type of machine that would be required under the law. I have one in my apartment. It plain doesn't work.

People can't read when it comes to facts. It seems many on here get clouded by emotions.
 
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Had a Maytag Neptune semi-front loader (tub was on a bout a 30 degree angle) that humped it for 20 years and still going strong the day we ditched it. A very solid built machine when buying a Maytag meant a Maytag, but it still had all the mold and odor issues around the front seals as a straight front load.

We went to a LG HE top load with the agitator. Excellent machine. Most people that complain the machines don't clean as well now prob chose a model w/o the agitator.

We've found the best way to handle the mold issue in a front loader is to just leave the door open when not in use.
 
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We've found the best way to handle the mold issue in a front loader is to just leave the door open when not in use.

The lack of agitator agitates me.Wash plates are garbage.
Deep Fills are a joke as the washplate isn't designed to "agitate" a Deep Fill, which conincidentally doesn't even deep fill
 
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You want to use less water? Keep an agitator that actually rolls around the load
 
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#71
My front load washer and dryer are over 15 years old. I'm thinking of buying a top load Maytag commercial washer that actually cleans clothes like a 1980's Kenmore. No time to wait with Biden in charge of screwing up our lives.
 
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We re-outfitted ALL of our appliances this past fall. About $5G worth. Had a really good salesman at Electronic express, and both our families have been neighbors on the same stretch of road for several generations, so he gave us the lowdown on the pros and cons of different models, and what he spent his own money on. And everything we bought was on really good sales prices. The lack of a heating element in some of the new models is exactly why we ended up with a $1400 Frigidaire dishwasher we paid $800 for. Great dishwasher & barely detectable when running even if your in the kitchen. . And also why we got the LG model washing machine with the agitator. We did consider a model with a removeable agitator, but decided we would never take it off.

Different appliances came with different brand and model recommendations, but when it came to washers and dryers, he said Speed Queen is the benchmark if it's within your budget. They are very pricey.

Fridge is a Frigidaire Gallery (dual ice maker), Range & dishwasher also bth FRigidaire. Range has Convection bake & Roast, Air Fry, Standard cook setting, Temp probe. The works. Dishwasher also FRigidaire. Washer/Dryer are LG. Couldn't be happier with the models we chose. But, I do undertand the decline in appliances. It was a long shopping trip to filter through the crap and pick some decent machines for the money.

Sounds like you did it all right. We have an LG front loader with the small top loader in the pedestal and a matching dryer. We're happy with those, but you have to be careful about how much stuff you put in - you can't convince a wife that a big load of towels is a whole lot of weight when wet. The washer motor gets really hot and smells when overloaded. I went with Bosch on my brother's recommendation - they've run through a few dishwashers in the past few years. Wish I'd known about your Frigidaire at the time and how poorly things dry in dishwashers without the heating element.
 
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Or maybe instead of locking on to how much water a washing machine uses, they could look at how many resources are actually required to build and power one of those EVs they love.

If you have to use a heavy duty cycle and extra rinses to get things clean and properly rinsed, the chances are you've used more water - and maybe more electricity than the older "less efficient" model would have used. However, regulators can show they cut water and power use (for "normal use"), manufacturers can claim they complied, and the consumer is frustrated and probably doing no better on resource use. There's just no common sense in the process, and most regulatory agencies are run by lawyers and political appointees rather than people who understand systems and how to make systems realistically more efficient - if possible. I don't believe in the long run that EVs are more efficient or will reduce emissions because we didn't keep investing in nuclear power and renewables aren't going to meet the 24/7/365 need - that's without even considering battery production pollution.
 

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