Now Biden is coming for your washing machine

[n_huffhines]

I'm confused. The article is about proposed mandates. This dude has BO and is complaining about his current machine. The proposed mandates aren't in effect. Sounds like this dude just has terrible hygiene and wants someone to blame. And not surprisingly, you guys eat it right up.

Let the record show my washing machine is from 2004 and I have a backup set from the 90's in my basement. I cannot stress enough how much I hate newer washing machines. But y'all are REACHING.

You gotta tell stupid stories to sell freedom

 

[Orangeburst]

Sounds like you did it all right. We have an LG front loader with the small top loader in the pedestal and a matching dryer. We're happy with those, but you have to be careful about how much stuff you put in - you can't convince a wife that a big load of towels is a whole lot of weight when wet. The washer motor gets really hot and smells when overloaded. I went with Bosch on my brother's recommendation - they've run through a few dishwashers in the past few years. Wish I'd known about your Frigidaire at the time and how poorly things dry in dishwashers without the heating element.

Bolded..no way appliances shouldn't last longer than to go thru serval DW..Take that Puter stuff out and give us 1980 tech

 

[hog88]

My dad still has my grandparents chest freezer, they got it sometime in the 50s and it's still running strong. I'm sure it's not qualified as "energy efficient" but if you think about the fact that it has ran for 70 years how much energy has it saved vs having to buy a new one and dispose of the old one every 10?

 

[OrangeTsar]

If you have to use a heavy duty cycle and extra rinses to get things clean and properly rinsed, the chances are you've used more water - and maybe more electricity than the older "less efficient" model would have used. However, regulators can show they cut water and power use (for "normal use"), manufacturers can claim they complied, and the consumer is frustrated and probably doing no better on resource use. There's just no common sense in the process, and most regulatory agencies are run by lawyers and political appointees rather than people who understand systems and how to make systems realistically more efficient - if possible. I don't believe in the long run that EVs are more efficient or will reduce emissions because we didn't keep investing in nuclear power and renewables aren't going to meet the 24/7/365 need - that's without even considering battery production pollution.

Sort of like low volume flush toilets probably ended up using more water than their predecessors simply because people ended up flushing multiple times to get the necessary results

 

[dukdukgoose]

I only read the first page so this may have been addressed. I do the majority of the laundry in my house. It's simple so I had no problem taking that chore on. I don't know much about modern front loaders but I do know that my buddy was glad his ex wife wanted it in the divorce. He wears scrubs to work everyday and they smelled moldy. He said it was because they weren't designed to drain correctly and eventually mildew and mold made his scrubs smell. I bought a new whirlpool HE top loader with no agitator in 2018 ish. I wash everything using Bulky/Sheets just because it uses the correct amount of water. As long as they don't take that feature off units the "HE" is able to be bypassed. Water is a cheap utility and the older units used the same amount. As one mentioned on the first page, I don't understand why conserving water is important unless you want to live in a desert. With that said, if you live in a desert, your government should build water reservoirs and holding tanks for water storage instead of whining about flooding or rain.

 

[VOLS INC.]

Here’s the real question.

When are they coming after waterbeds???

Damn waterbeds are ruining the planet!!!

 

[dukdukgoose]

Here’s the real question.

When are they coming after waterbeds???

Damn waterbeds are ruining the planet!!!

My riverside timeshare in pigeon forge has a waterbed that is fully paid for in cash. There will be hell to pay if the government ever tries to come after that.

 

[Zues1]

My riverside timeshare in pigeon forge has a waterbed that is fully paid for in cash. There will be hell to pay if the government ever tries to come after that.

Ahh waterbeds, love em...Road many a wave back in the day..

 

[Zues1]

Well Joe's probably going to sell a lot of washers.

 

[VOLS INC.]

My riverside timeshare in pigeon forge has a waterbed that is fully paid for in cash. There will be hell to pay if the government ever tries to come after that.

I have a friend who’s kind of a left-wing nut. He’s mostly harmless other than his voting record. Anyway, he still sleeps on a waterbed. He’s had it forever. Thought about making him a “Come and Take It” flag with a waterbed on it. Hosepipe and everything lol.

 

[norrislakevol]

Regulations generally ruin a lot of things. The government only does two things well: Steal money, and kill people. No one could ever top them at that.

Regulations ruined the gas can. It's a lot easier to spill gas now with these new cans, and harder to get it out.

If they really want to save energy then they can go after heating and air units, which is by far the biggest electrical draw in your home. That would upset their upper middle class white guilt supporters though because their 5000 square foot houses require TWO heating units to stay warm/cool.

 

[hog88]

Regulations generally ruin a lot of things. The government only does two things well: Steal money, and kill people. No one could ever top them at that.

Regulations ruined the gas can. It's a lot easier to spill gas now with these new cans, and harder to get it out.

If they really want to save energy then they can go after heating and air units, which is by far the biggest electrical draw in your home. That would upset their upper middle class white guilt supporters though because their 5000 square foot houses require TWO heating units to stay warm/cool.

They have gone after HVAC units, there is a new standard with a new Freon coming out soon.

 

[rekinhavoc]

Distraction politics.

 

[Weezy]

They have gone after HVAC units, there is a new standard with a new Freon coming out soon.

That's apparently a fire hazard.

 

[hog88]

That's apparently a fire hazard.

The way I understand it’s highly toxic

 

[BreatheUT]

Mine works just fine. Maybe he got a dud

We got an HE many years ago because we thought we were saving on the water bill and it was on sale. I've disliked the thing since the day we bought it. It was more like how are these clothes suppose to get clean with such little water? I always use the more water option, and I'll often wash again without putting washing liquid in again to make sure the soap is out the clothes. It has ended up being more time consuming and probably don't save as much on water because of two washes.

 

[utvolpj]

We got an HE many years ago because we thought we were saving on the water bill and it was on sale. I've disliked the thing since the day we bought it. It was more like how are these clothes suppose to get clean with such little water? I always use the more water option, and I'll often wash again without putting washing liquid in again to make sure the soap is out the clothes. It has ended up being more time consuming and probably don't save as much on water because of two washes.

Again, my whirlpool does the job. We wash sports gear from me and my boys with no issues. We wash big loads of pool towels and they are clean and smell fine. Our 3rd set and the only one we had any problems with was a front loader that had to be left open to dry. Only got it because our house needed stackable. Ran an affresh in it every once in a while and it was good as new

 

[GVF]

Might be time to dust these old bad boys off
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Still got my grandmas just like that out in the old hen house. Pretty decent shape.

 

[GVF]

Sounds like you did it all right. We have an LG front loader with the small top loader in the pedestal and a matching dryer. We're happy with those, but you have to be careful about how much stuff you put in - you can't convince a wife that a big load of towels is a whole lot of weight when wet. The washer motor gets really hot and smells when overloaded. I went with Bosch on my brother's recommendation - they've run through a few dishwashers in the past few years. Wish I'd known about your Frigidaire at the time and how poorly things dry in dishwashers without the heating element.

We actually looked at the Bosch. Salesman said they were the best on the market, EXCEPT that they don't have the heating element and advised us what the lack of that meant. We saw the particular model Frigidaire on a deep sale and he said that model would prob be our 2nd best choice. Glad we picked that one. It also has the flat top pullout. You coud just tell how well built and insulated it was. None of the loose wrap. It had the heat molded rigid insulation. Full stainless tub and shell. Like any decently built washer, our LG is direct drive and has a respectable warranty. If we could have afforded it, would have liked to go with the Speed Queen, but they only had white, and it was going next to the stainless fridge in the sunroom. But, so far, she seems to have chosen a good model of LG.

Only issue I ever had with my Maytag front load was tub bearings wearing out. Tried to tell me the bearings were a part of the tub and that was $700. I figured they went in, so they gotta come out. Matched the bearings at the auto store and got a gear puller, and rigged up a heavey duty long bolt and washers and dismantled that sucker. Did it myself first time in 3 hours and $5 worth of bearings. Except they were tapered bearings and I put one on backwards and was re-doing the project within 6 months. THat was my mistake though. It was nearing time to replace them again when we ditched it for a top load.

 

[GVF]

Regulations generally ruin a lot of things. The government only does two things well: Steal money, and kill people. No one could ever top them at that.

Regulations ruined the gas can. It's a lot easier to spill gas now with these new cans, and harder to get it out.

If they really want to save energy then they can go after heating and air units, which is by far the biggest electrical draw in your home. That would upset their upper middle class white guilt supporters though because their 5000 square foot houses require TWO heating units to stay warm/cool.

Old gas cans bring premium dollars at yard sales if you can get your hands on one.

 

[GVF]

The mold issue and smell in front loaders is the front rubber seal. It has a SMALL drain tube in the bottom side that can clog up eventually. If you are aware of this when you buy them, and just run some paper towels around inside the seal to facilitate the drying, prob won't ever notice. We were not aware of these issues until too late. I took the front off, and gave that seal the business with cleaners and scrubbers and could never get it clean. It doesn't take much time to do a few little things to prevent that issue.

 

[ButchPlz]

If you have to use a heavy duty cycle and extra rinses to get things clean and properly rinsed, the chances are you've used more water - and maybe more electricity than the older "less efficient" model would have used. However, regulators can show they cut water and power use (for "normal use"), manufacturers can claim they complied, and the consumer is frustrated and probably doing no better on resource use. There's just no common sense in the process, and most regulatory agencies are run by lawyers and political appointees rather than people who understand systems and how to make systems realistically more efficient - if possible. I don't believe in the long run that EVs are more efficient or will reduce emissions because we didn't keep investing in nuclear power and renewables aren't going to meet the 24/7/365 need - that's without even considering battery production pollution.

Same thing with climate folks that rail against dishwashers, which are largely way more efficient than handwashing.

And I've already mentioned the EVs before.

Climate trolls that aren't invested directly in the bureaucracy or participating companies are useful idiots. The ones that are invested in those things are evil.

 

[norrislakevol]

They have gone after HVAC units, there is a new standard with a new Freon coming out soon.

Didn't know that! Maybe that's one that they won't be able to screw up. It either heats and cools properly or it doesn't I guess.

 

[LadyVolette]

The mold issue and smell in front loaders is the front rubber seal. It has a SMALL drain tube in the bottom side that can clog up eventually. If you are aware of this when you buy them, and just run some paper towels around inside the seal to facilitate the drying, prob won't ever notice. We were not aware of these issues until too late. I took the front off, and gave that seal the business with cleaners and scrubbers and could never get it clean. It doesn't take much time to do a few little things to prevent that issue.

We didn’t like our front loader for that reason.. it got gunked up and moldy (LG) and we could not get the seal out or ever get it entirely clean lol.. it will make your clothes stinky too..it permeates the barrel, and you have to use this stuff to ‘clean the washing machine’ lmao.. we went with whatever we could find that was the most basic, closest to old school washer we could find.. now what I really hate is the low flow toilets if anyone thinks they are coming after my convection oven, or my gas stove or grill, they are going to have to fight me

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]