Number of games we get blown out.

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VFLCodyGBO said:
This is my measure for improvement, last year we were out of the game by the 3rd quarter against bama, auburn, Oregon, and mizzou. I say we cut that in half and we can hold it to 2.
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Jones and Co were blown out by 28+ pts 4 times last year. From 89 to 12 (including all 3 years of Dooley), UT was beaten by 28+ pts only 5 times. This is one of the big reasons I remain skeptical of this staff's ability to coach at the SEC level.
 
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sjt18 said:
Jones and Co were blown out by 28+ pts 4 times last year. From 89 to 12 (including all 3 years of Dooley), UT was beaten by 28+ pts only 4 times. This is one of the big reasons I remain skeptical of this staff's ability to coach at the SEC level.
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You can thank Dooley for that. Last year we finally bore the full brunt of his incompetence when we were forced to field a team largely devoid of SEC level talent thanks to his piss poor recruiting.
 
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sjt18 said:
Jones and Co were blown out by 28+ pts 4 times last year. From 89 to 12 (including all 3 years of Dooley), UT was beaten by 28+ pts only 4 times. This is one of the big reasons I remain skeptical of this staff's ability to coach at the SEC level.
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Actually it was 8 times. 5 were during the Dooley years but never 4 in one season.
 
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sjt18 said:
Jones and Co were blown out by 28+ pts 4 times last year. From 89 to 12 (including all 3 years of Dooley), UT was beaten by 28+ pts only 4 times. This is one of the big reasons I remain skeptical of this staff's ability to coach at the SEC level.
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My Lord man. Three of those games were played with a true freshman quarterback, three of them were road. Two of them played for the SEC championship and another won a Natty last year.
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
You can thank Dooley for that. Last year we finally bore the full brunt of his incompetence when we were forced to field a team largely devoid of SEC level talent thanks to his piss poor recruiting.
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LOL... Yeah, it was all Dooley's fault. He probably secretly switched their gameplans too to trip them up. Who knows? Maybe he was secretly in contact with the players and telling them to be out of position all the time or to not run the D that Jancek called. ANYTHING that allows you to relieve the current staff of all criticism and responsibility for the poor coaching and performance of the 13 season.

Dooley inherited a horrible situation too. His rosters weren't any stronger than the one he handed off to Jones in his first two years.

It was not Dooley's fault that this staff failed to get the most out of the 13 roster.
 
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Boca Vol said:
Actually it was 8 times. 5 were during the Dooley years but never 4 in one season.
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I corrected to 5 which is all I counted though I might have missed some admittedly. Nonetheless, last year's performance was historically bad in terms of being uncompetitive.
 
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sonofUT62 said:
My Lord man. Three of those games were played with a true freshman quarterback, three of them were road. Two of them played for the SEC championship and another won a Natty last year.
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Dooley played 4 NC contenders in his 3 years as HC. I believe he played 5 of the 6 SEC CG teams in his 3 years. He started a true Fr and a new JUCO in his first year.

IIRC, during the period I cited, 6 Fr started at QB for UT.

UT has played a lot of good teams over that span.
 
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sjt18 said:
Dooley played 4 NC contenders in his 3 years as HC. I believe he played 5 of the 6 SEC CG teams in his 3 years. He started a true Fr and a new JUCO in his first year.

IIRC, during the period I cited, 6 Fr started at QB for UT.

UT has played a lot of good teams over that span.
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Bray wasn't thrown to the wolves.
 
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sjt18 said:
It took Jones only one season to equal the number of blowouts Dooley had in 3.
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So first it was 89-2012 was only four? Then its five, but I count 7 just by checking 7 out of those 23 years. Your research is super lazy and makes you look like you have an agenda.
 
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sjt18 said:
Right. Bray was coached up for 10 weeks or so. They got him ready. If Dobbs wasn't ready... then that is a COACHING responsibility.
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Bray struggled against SC and then beat Memphis, Candy, A TERRIBLE Ole Miss team and.......Ky. Compared to Dobbs playing Mizzou, Bama, Auburn, etc....
 
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sjt18 said:
Right. Bray was coached up for 10 weeks or so. They got him ready. If Dobbs wasn't ready... then that is a COACHING responsibility.
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Bray has an elite arm. All he had to do was throw it up to Hunter, which he did quite a bit.

Impressive job by Bray, but that comparison is stupid. No other way to put it.

Bray went up against a bunch of relatively easy teams. Dobbs got thrown in (which wasn't even the plan) to some really good teams and one decent team. Dobbs was not ready, but they didn't have a choice. Bray was ready to face the easier part of the schedule and it showed.

Really dumb comparison.
 
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LotteryPick said:
Bray has an elite arm. All he had to do was throw it up to Hunter, which he did quite a bit.

Impressive job by Bray, but that comparison is stupid. No other way to put it.

Bray went up against a bunch of relatively easy teams. Dobbs got thrown in (which wasn't even the plan) to some really good teams and one decent team. Dobbs was not ready, but they didn't have a choice. Bray was ready to face the easier part of the schedule and it showed.

Really dumb comparison.
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Thank you. Especially considering that Bray had the benefit of being 2nd string, getting practice reps and the staff admitted there was a plan to play him at some point. JD was never supposed to have been forced into action this year and wasn't getting practice reps.
 
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sonofUT62 said:
Thank you. Especially considering that Bray had the benefit of being 2nd string, getting practice reps and the staff admitted there was a plan to play him at some point. JD was never supposed to have been forced into action this year and wasn't getting practice reps.
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Another comparison, was Maty Mauk supposed to see the field this past year? I realize he was a RS FR but with Mauk looked pretty good getting thrown to the wolves at UGA.
 
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Boca Vol said:
Another comparison, was Maty Mauk supposed to see the field this past year? I realize he was a RS FR but with Mauk looked pretty good getting thrown to the wolves at UGA.
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Yes! He a RS. He was also the second string and was getting a ton of reps, and its Pinkels upteenth year with that same system. Listen, anybody that wants to argue that Petermans performance was alarming won't hear a word from me. But I refuse to buy into this staffs ability to coach based on Dobbs performance against SEC teams. Its ludicrous.
 
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sjt18 said:
It took Jones only one season to equal the number of blowouts Dooley had in 3.
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Oh Dear God.... Dooley never had a schedule as hard as last year's, and he still found ways to lose 7 games every year. And did you watch any games last year? We were competitive (and on one particular occasion) beat some of the big kids in the SEC. Your boy Dooley never did that. Now we have a top 5 class to boot, we'll be fine.
 
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Rockytoptalker said:
Oh Dear God.... Dooley never had a schedule as hard as last year's, and he still found ways to lose 7 games every year. And did you watch any games last year? We were competitive (and on one particular occasion) beat some of the big kids in the SEC. Your boy Dooley never did that. Now we have a top 5 class to boot, we'll be fine.
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Plus Dooley benefitted from a few leftover players from previous coaches. Jones got stuck with a roster full of Dooley's Sun Belt talent.
 
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hmanvolfan said:
We gone whip all they asses.
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bleedorange0037 said:
Plus Dooley benefitted from a few leftover players from previous coaches. Jones got stuck with a roster full of Dooley's Sun Belt talent.
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Yea the only thing Jones had to work with was a pretty good o-line. Other than that talent was lacking at virtually every other position.
 
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We lose by 25+ to Bama, Oklahoma and Missouri. We simply don't play quite as many high octane offenses this year. 5-7 if we are lucky. I'm mentally prepared for a loss to Utah State in the opener as well. Gonna be an ugly year.
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rcvol said:
We lose by 25+ to Bama, Oklahoma and Missouri. We simply don't play quite as many high octane offenses this year. 5-7 if we are lucky. I'm mentally prepared for a loss to Utah State in the opener as well. Gonna be an ugly year.
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We get Mizzou in Knoxville and we will have a better team than the one that went to OT with them in 2012. I would love to become your bookie if you want to give the Vols 25.
 
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sonofUT62 said:
We get Mizzou in Knoxville and we will have a better team than the one that went to OT with them in 2012. I would love to become your bookie if you want to give the Vols 25.
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Where is the much better coming from?

These new recruits aren't going to be ready right away

If we are starting a ton of freshmen, then we might see our first ever 8 loss season

You better hope like hell this OL and DL comes together or we are going to be in a world of hurt
 
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rcvol said:
We lose by 25+ to Bama, Oklahoma and Missouri. We simply don't play quite as many high octane offenses this year. 5-7 if we are lucky. I'm mentally prepared for a loss to Utah State in the opener as well. Gonna be an ugly year.
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I've heard "5-7 if we're lucky" for the past 4 years. We must've had just the right amount of luck every time.
 
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