Number of games we get blown out.

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CountVolcula said:
Where is the much better coming from?

These new recruits aren't going to be ready right away

If we are starting a ton of freshmen, then we might see our first ever 8 loss season

You better hope like hell this OL and DL comes together or we are going to be in a world of hurt
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I didn't say "much better". But I do believe the areas we will be better outweigh what we lost. And MOST importantly we switched Derek Dooley for Butch Jones which can't be stated enough.
 
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Rockytoptalker said:
Oklahoma is the only for sure beat down I see right now, Alabama is probably gonna turn out the same as the past few years as well. Other than that I think we stay at least competitive in games against some of our stronger opponents.
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I bet TAMU thought they were going to blow Duke out too huh?
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
It's just pathetic that fans are wondering how many teams are going to blow us out. I understand we have been down for a long time but for crying out loud if this is what it has come to then we truly have hit rock bottom.
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Yes, we've pretty much hit rock bottom.
 
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Boca Vol said:
Yes, we've pretty much hit rock bottom.
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Will be this way for a while. We have no decent QB in sight and our offensive and defensive lines will be even worse than last year's. Anyone who tells you we will be better next year knows nothing about football. Most of the freshmen in this class won't even play. My fear is that after we go 5-7 or 4-8 next year, the recruiting will cool down, and we will only achieve mid-tier status. Long-term, I don't see how Tennessee ever gets back to consistently winning due to how little talent we have in-state and how competitive national recruiting is now. UT used to be one of the FEW schools that could recruit nationally. Now, with social media, internet, etc., all schools are doing it, so we don't have that competitive advantage anymore. It sucks, but it's just the evolution of the game.
 
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With respect to the OP....the question should be how many teams do we blow out this year......:dance2::dance2::dance2::dance2::dance2::dance2::dance2::dance2::dance2::dance2::dance2::dance2:
 
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VFLCodyGBO said:
Insightful.


Also, I think believe this team will be improved, but certainly not top tier. Look for a blowout against Bama and Oklahoma. I think we beat Mizzou this year.
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Love that this is topic. Auburn prolly had the same thread last year and look how stupid and pointless that thread was.
 
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sonofUT62 said:
So first it was 89-2012 was only four? Then its five, but I count 7 just by checking 7 out of those 23 years. Your research is super lazy and makes you look like you have an agenda.
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Whatever you say. I think that YOUR parsing rather than dealing with the major point makes YOU look like you have an agenda.

My only "agenda" is to see UT have a championship caliber coaching staff... that PROVES it on the field regardless of the circumstances or limitations. We did not see that in '13.

If I was incorrect (which I already acknowledged that I might be) then it is a just a matter of degrees. Someone else said 8 is the number. That's fine. NO COACH during that period has been blown out more in one season than Jones was. Dooley inherited a tough situation too and it took him 3 years to have more blowouts than Jones had in one. Kiffin inherited a bad roster and tough situation but managed to keep it close against vastly superior opponents like UF and Bama were that year. The last few years of Fulmer were tough. The late 80's had some tough times. Fulmer dealt with UF and Spurrier during the 90's when they were posting big numbers against everyone.

You guys try to act like no one has ever had it as tough as '13. That simply is not true by a long shot.
 
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sonofUT62 said:
Bray struggled against SC and then beat Memphis, Candy, A TERRIBLE Ole Miss team and.......Ky. Compared to Dobbs playing Mizzou, Bama, Auburn, etc....
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Bray didn't struggle against SC. He threw a pick six on his first pass IIRC but then pretty well lit them up after Simms had stank up the first half. "Candy" beat UT this year... remember?
 
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LotteryPick said:
Bray has an elite arm. All he had to do was throw it up to Hunter, which he did quite a bit.

Impressive job by Bray, but that comparison is stupid. No other way to put it.
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Yeah. Anything you have to say to avoid having the coaches be responsible for preparing back ups to play, right?

Bray went up against a bunch of relatively easy teams. Dobbs got thrown in (which wasn't even the plan) to some really good teams and one decent team. Dobbs was not ready, but they didn't have a choice. Bray was ready to face the easier part of the schedule and it showed.
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Bray was coached up by Chaney. You are correct. Dobbs was not ready.

Really dumb comparison.
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Nope. Not a perfect comparison by any stretch but the FACT is that one guy was coached up and ready to go in when his number was called. The other guy was not ready and played poorly in spite of showing some pretty obvious physical ability both throwing and running the ball.
 
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sjt18 said:
Yeah. Anything you have to say to avoid having the coaches be responsible for preparing back ups to play, right?

Bray was coached up by Chaney. You are correct. Dobbs was not ready.



Nope. Not a perfect comparison by any stretch but the FACT is that one guy was coached up and ready to go in when his number was called. The other guy was not ready and played poorly in spite of showing some pretty obvious physical ability both throwing and running the ball.
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You aren't the brightest.

I've never kept blame from the coaches. In fact, I hold them responsible for quite a bit, but your selective reading comprehension can't grasp that.

Bray was ready and supposed to play. Dobbs was not ready and not supposed to play. Stop trying to make that God awful comparison justifiable when it's not.
 
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Rockytoptalker said:
Oh Dear God.... Dooley never had a schedule as hard as last year's,
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His first season was VERY comparable to last year. He played Oregon, LSU, and Bama plus several teams with more talent than Mizzou. Again, in his 3 years, he played 4 of the 6 teams that competed for a NC.

and he still found ways to lose 7 games every year.
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Did I say that he was a good coach? That's the entire point, isn't it? A demonstrably BAD coach had only one more blowout loss while playing a high caliber of competion in 3 years as Jones did in one year.

And did you watch any games last year? We were competitive (and on one particular occasion) beat some of the big kids in the SEC. Your boy Dooley never did that. Now we have a top 5 class to boot, we'll be fine.
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UT was not competitive vs Bama, Aub, Oregon, or Mizzou. UT almost lost to USA... a middling Sun Belt team. They managed to lose to Vandy and a terrible UF team.

Dooley isn't "my boy". Dooley was rightly fired for not being a good enough coach to keep the job. He failed. NONE of this is about excusing Dooley's failures. Just the opposite. It is about comparing the FAILURES of Dooley to the results of Jones in '13. If you can't admit that the coaching in '13 was subpar then you should not believe that Dooley deserved to be fired. I believe he did deserve to be fired but to be consistent I have to also say that the coaching was not up to par in '13. The results and facts just won't allow that.

Dooley had a top 10 class in '10 that produced or will produce several NFL players. At the VERY worst, UT STILL had more natural talent than Vandy or even Mizzou in '13. It was enough talent to make a bowl and to at least be competitive for a half against those 4 teams.

You can stick your head in the sand and say "we'll be fine" all you like. But unless the coachig improves... UT will NOT be fine.
 
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sjt18 said:
Bray didn't struggle against SC. He threw a pick six on his first pass IIRC but then pretty well lit them up after Simms had stank up the first half. "Candy" beat UT this year... remember?
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Are you seriously comparing the Candy team that Bray beat to this years? You should know better.
 
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