Oakland Mayor tipped off illegal immigrants about ICE raid

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Don't agree with any of this sanctuary city crap, it's illegal and I think she's batsh** crazy and wrong along with the majority that put her in office.

However, I am a proponent of states rights and it's right to choose what it's citizens want. Let the outcomes happen and let people live where they feel they fit in.

Now, tipping off illegals is ignorant and should cause some legal issues for this woman. Better off not doing anything of the sort, just keep speaking her "platform" no matter how much I disagree with it, because she was elected by people who are more like her than not (it's California for petes sake).
 
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I know states aren't obligated to enforce federal immigration laws, but can they combat them like this?
 
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tennvols77 said:
Don't agree with any of this sanctuary city crap, it's illegal and I think she's batsh** crazy and wrong along with the majority that put her in office.

However, I am a proponent of states rights and it's right to choose what it's citizens want. Let the outcomes happen and let people live where they feel they fit in.

Now, tipping off illegals is ignorant and should cause some legal issues for this woman. Better off not doing anything of the sort, just keep speaking her "platform" no matter how much I disagree with it, because she was elected by people who are more like her than not (it's California for petes sake).
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I agree let California secede.
 
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Vol_Doc said:
I know states aren't obligated to enforce federal immigration laws, but can they combat them like this?
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doubtful when its something that falls under the federal umbrella vs the feds over reaching.
 
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Vol_Doc said:
I know states aren't obligated to enforce federal immigration laws, but can they combat them like this?
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No.

State employees don't have to enforce federal laws, thats why we have federal LEO.

This is a massive obstruction of justice, a real one liberals, that should see this mayor face some well deserved criminal penalties.
 
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What a dumb ass irrational libtard Mayor.

Of those 232, 180 “were either convicted criminals, had been issued a final order of removal and failed to depart the United States, or had been previously removed” from the country and had come back illegally.

Another 115 “had prior felony convictions for serious or violent offenses.”

About that ICE Raid the Oakland Mayor Interrupted... - Cortney O'Brien

It turns out the community is much "safer" having been swept by ICE, as a sizable number of the people the agents arrested in the San Francisco Bay Area had violent criminal records.

Those convictions include aggravated assault, murder, a hit and run, lewd acts with a minor, burglary, cruelty toward a child, indecent exposure, domestic violence, drug trafficking, battery, sex offenses and false imprisonment.
 
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What a dumb ass irrational libtard Mayor.

Of those 232, 180 “were either convicted criminals, had been issued a final order of removal and failed to depart the United States, or had been previously removed” from the country and had come back illegally.

Another 115 “had prior felony convictions for serious or violent offenses.”

About that ICE Raid the Oakland Mayor Interrupted... - Cortney O'Brien

It turns out the community is much "safer" having been swept by ICE, as a sizable number of the people the agents arrested in the San Francisco Bay Area had violent criminal records.

Those convictions include aggravated assault, murder, a hit and run, lewd acts with a minor, burglary, cruelty toward a child, indecent exposure, domestic violence, drug trafficking, battery, sex offenses and false imprisonment.
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One more reason Oakland is a ****hole
 
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Vol0725 said:
What a dumb ass irrational libtard Mayor.

Of those 232, 180 “were either convicted criminals, had been issued a final order of removal and failed to depart the United States, or had been previously removed” from the country and had come back illegally.

Another 115 “had prior felony convictions for serious or violent offenses.”

About that ICE Raid the Oakland Mayor Interrupted... - Cortney O'Brien

It turns out the community is much "safer" having been swept by ICE, as a sizable number of the people the agents arrested in the San Francisco Bay Area had violent criminal records.

Those convictions include aggravated assault, murder, a hit and run, lewd acts with a minor, burglary, cruelty toward a child, indecent exposure, domestic violence, drug trafficking, battery, sex offenses and false imprisonment.
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But, but, they're just children. Dreaming of a better life, from whence they fled.
 
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Remember this story? Well now an ICE whistle blower says that Jeff Sessions is full of **** and while he was talking to CBS, feds just happened to show up at his house to question him about his resignation, LOL.

The raids resulted in the arrest of 232 immigrants out of 1,000 possible targets. As Schwab explained in his CBS interview, the arrest results were actually "16 percent higher" than ICE's estimates. Despite this, Sessions claimed in March that Schaaf was personally responsible for "needlessly [endangering] the lives of our law enforcement officers to promote a radical open-borders agenda." The attorney general said the warning led to ICE's failure to make an additional 800 arrests, classifying the unarrested as "800 wanted criminals that are at large."

Schwab told Yuccas that the statement was "completely false" and said it made him "extremely uncomfortable." He once argued in March "We were never going to pick up that many people. To say that 100 percent are dangerous criminals on the street, or that those people weren't picked up because of the misguided actions of the mayor, is just wrong." When presented with opportunities to clarify, Schwab said that his Washington, D.C., higher-ups instructed him not to dispute Sessions.

"I could not fathom staying at an organization that was OK with lying to the American public. I hate that. In 17 years in the military, at the Department of Defense as a civilian, at NASA, and now at Homeland Security, I have never been asked to lie. I have never been asked to perpetuate a lie, which is the same as lying," he said, speaking of the eventual decision to resign.
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Feds Show Up at ICE Whistleblower's CBS Interview - Hit & Run : Reason.com
 
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you can't really use the excuse that we were never going to catch literally all of them, so what does warning them matter, as a defense.

also this stinks to high heaven, the feds just so happen to show up while CBS was doing a video interview?

Supposedly the beef with Sessions was that Sessions said the mayor put ICE agents in danger by giving a warning. what does not catching 100% have to do with that? doesn't sound like they asked him to perpetuate a lie.
 
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LouderVol said:
you can't really use the excuse that we were never going to catch literally all of them, so what does warning them matter, as a defense.

also this stinks to high heaven, the feds just so happen to show up while CBS was doing a video interview?

Supposedly the beef with Sessions was that Sessions said the mayor put ICE agents in danger by giving a warning. what does not catching 100% have to do with that? doesn't sound like they asked him to perpetuate a lie.
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Are ICE agents ever in serious danger on US soil? I tried to google about them dying in acrion, but all i could find was a story about a family that crashed and died fleeing from ICE and then a story from 2012 about ICE agents having a shootout with one another.
 
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newarkvol said:
Looks like Kushner is getting his share of "tips" as well


Kushner’s Business Got Loans From Companies After White House Meetings

Kushner’s Business Got Loans From Companies After White House Meetings - The New York Times
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Something that lifetime politicians never worry about - they don't work at anything ... except election. Their bribes simply get covered as campaign contributions; and, unlike loans, are only paid back in political favors worth well more than the bribe/investment.
 
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Something that lifetime politicians never worry about - they don't work at anything ... except election. Their bribes simply get covered as campaign contributions; and, unlike loans, are only paid back in political favors worth well more than the bribe/investment.
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Any law enforcement job can be hazardous even deadly. You know that. Trying to downplay the hazard to the agents while making large of fatalities brought about by criminal flight of illegal aliens to avoid arrest is duplicitous of you.
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Trying to downplay? I'm honestly curious about how dangerous it is.

The point is that Sessions tried to stir up anger claiming this put agents in danger and that's total BS. Just reason through it. Illegals are going to arm themselves and ambush ICE agents when they arrive? No, they're just going to make themselves scarce. The mayor didn't put ICE in danger.
 
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Trying to downplay? I'm honestly curious about how dangerous it is.

The point is that Sessions tried to stir up anger claiming this put agents in danger and that's total BS. Just reason through it. Illegals are going to arm themselves and ambush ICE agents when they arrive? No, they're just going to make themselves scarce. The mayor didn't put ICE in danger.
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Putting in danger doesn't require an actual gunfight.
 
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n_huffhines said:
It was just an example. Can you provide an example of a valid way that this put them in danger?
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same thing applies in a general sense.

when you are looking for someone who doesn't want to be found it is generally best practice to not let them know you are coming, or where you might be in relation to them. you mix in the fact that this is something as serious as deportation and you get a volatile compound.

1 person more armed in response to this makes it "more dangerous". even if nothing happens.

1 person going into hiding in some extreme conditions could be dangerous to all involved.

general sense of panic tends to get pretty dangerous. and when stuff like this comes out of the governments mouths. even legals get to worrying and panic. I have seen it first hand.
 
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LouderVol said:
same thing applies in a general sense.

when you are looking for someone who doesn't want to be found it is generally best practice to not let them know you are coming, or where you might be in relation to them. you mix in the fact that this is something as serious as deportation and you get a volatile compound.

1 person more armed in response to this makes it "more dangerous". even if nothing happens.

1 person going into hiding in some extreme conditions could be dangerous to all involved.

general sense of panic tends to get pretty dangerous. and when stuff like this comes out of the governments mouths. even legals get to worrying and panic. I have seen it first hand.
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So no valid examples?

Might as well say it's increased danger because ICE agents have to drive around more.
 
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