Obama campaign tries to wash its hands of the Romney/Cancer Ad

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Obama camp denies knowledge of cancer tale it told in May | The Ticket - Yahoo! News

The Ad was started by Priorities USA Action which was started by former Obama Campaign officials Bill Burton and Sean Sweeney.

Oops? President Barack Obama's re-election campaign washed its hands Wednesday of an independent group's vicious (and misleading) ad effectively blaming Mitt Romney for the death of a laid-off steelworker's wife from cancer. Campaign officials flatly denied any knowledge of the facts in the case—but it turns out the widower told the same story on an Obama campaign conference call in mid-May. (The Obama campaign responded late in the day: See update below).

"We have nothing, no involvement, with any ads that are done by Priorities USA. We don't have any knowledge of the story of the family," Obama campaign spokeswoman Jen Psaki told reporters aboard Air Force One on Wednesday.

The ad features Joe Soptic, who lost his job and his health benefits after Romney's Bain Capital closed the GST Steel plant in Kansas City, Mo., in 2001. Soptic later told CNN that his wife had health insurance through her own employer from that point to 2002 or 2003, when she left that job because of an injury—a detail that undermines the ad's heartbreaking narrative.

"I don't know the facts about when Mr. Soptic's wife got sick, or the facts about his health insurance," deputy campaign manager Stephanie Cutter told CNN on Wednesday.

But there's a problem. As Politico first reported, Soptic told essentially the same story in a May 14, 2012, conference call hosted by the Obama campaign.
 
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The bigger story here is that Romney is conducting biological warfare on American citizens!
 
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If Romney can take blame for this woman's death with so many degrees of separation, surely Obama is on the hook for every person that was slain by fast and furious. There are many less degrees of separation there. Obama is a homicidal maniac compared to Romney.
 
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The Romney campaign's reaction to the ad? ---

That if they had lived in Massachussetts they'd have had health insurance under the Romney plan !!!

LOL, so now he's for the mandate again? Can't keep track.
 
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The Romney campaign's reaction to the ad? ---

That if they had lived in Massachussetts they'd have had health insurance under the Romney plan !!!

LOL, so now he's for the mandate again? Can't keep track.

Care to link that? It wasn't in the article.
 
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It's what the people of Massachusetts wanted, right?

Pretty sure the polls on Obamacare indicate that the majority of Americans don't want it.
 
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Not surprised at all that Team Obama would stoop to this level.

Dumb response by Romney.
 
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It's what the people of Massachusetts wanted, right?

It's what was done to ensure people were taking "personal responsibility" for their healthcare costs... Which I totally agree with. Back then, and now with the personal mandate.

Pretty sure the polls on Obamacare indicate that the majority of Americans don't want it.

Those polls are really wacky... and don't tell the real story.

- 40% Hate it entirely because they believe it's a socialist plot to take over our 17th ranked healthcare system, complete with "Death Panels"

- 40% SUPPORT it entirely as is

- 20% WOULD SUPPORT it fully, if it contained a PUBLIC OPTION... These people don't think it goes far enough, and hope that it eventually will be modified to include the public option. These people typically support the "Medicare for All" model that is the model in much of the civilized world.



So sure, you could say that a majority of people are "against" it -- but really there is 60% of America who want things to be reformed... and are happy that SOMETHING is being done.
 
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It's what was done to ensure people were taking "personal responsibility" for their healthcare costs... Which I totally agree with. Back then, and now with the personal mandate.



Those polls are really wacky... and don't tell the real story.

- 40% Hate it entirely because they believe it's a socialist plot to take over our 17th ranked helathcare system, complete with "Death Panels"

- 40% SUPPORT it entirely as is

- 20% WOULD SUPPORT it fully, if it contained a PUBLIC OPTION... These people don't think it goes far enough, and hope that it eventually will be modified to include the public option. These people typically support the "Medicare for All" model that is the model in much of the civilized world.

You are saying 60% of people support ACA and/or more? I've seen plenty of polls that suggest something else.

Your characterization of the 40% against it tell me you are working with bogus info here.
 
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The June 2012 Kaiser Family Foundation reported the following:

Expand Law or Keep As Is - 53%
Repeal Law and Replace or Repeal - 38%
Don't Know - 10%

Maybe I was off a little bit, but my larger point is:

Just because you're "against" the current ACA, doesn't mean you are against health care reform. There is a large block of people who are against the ACA, who want it to go FARTHER.
 
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Not surprised at all that Team Obama would stoop to this level.

Dumb response by Romney.

Agree on both points.

What I find amazing about this ad is there has not been one ad buy. The networks have latched on to it and has made it this weeks news story.

This is a cheap way to dominate the news clycle for a week, make an outlandish ad, never spend a dime to put it on the air and let all the networks run it over and over.
 
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It's what was done to ensure people were taking "personal responsibility" for their healthcare costs... Which I totally agree with. Back then, and now with the personal mandate.



Those polls are really wacky... and don't tell the real story.

- 40% Hate it entirely because they believe it's a socialist plot to take over our 17th ranked healthcare system, complete with "Death Panels"

- 40% SUPPORT it entirely as is

- 20% WOULD SUPPORT it fully, if it contained a PUBLIC OPTION... These people don't think it goes far enough, and hope that it eventually will be modified to include the public option. These people typically support the "Medicare for All" model that is the model in much of the civilized world.



So sure, you could say that a majority of people are "against" it -- but really there is 60% of America who want things to be reformed... and are happy that SOMETHING is being done.

LOL @ personal responsibility :whatever:
 
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The June 2012 Kaiser Family Foundation reported the following:

Expand Law or Keep As Is - 53%
Repeal Law and Replace or Repeal - 38%
Don't Know - 10%

Maybe I was off a little bit, but my larger point is:

Just because you're "against" the current ACA, doesn't mean you are against health care reform. There is a large block of people who are against the ACA, who want it to go FARTHER.

Whoever said being against ACA meant you were against reform or that some want more?

Reform doesn't mean ACA+; there are plenty who'd prefer a more consumer-centered HC model which is definitely reform but goes in a different direction than ACA.

Here's some polling that is different than yours - 52% want full repeal or partial repeal; 25% say keep it and expand it; 13% leave it as is.

Poll: Americans split on Affordable Care Act ruling - Mackenzie Weinger - POLITICO.com
 
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The problem with polling on the ACA is that a significant majority of the people who think they know enough about it to have an opinion actually don't understand it, pretty much at all.

Heck, on this board, of relatively well educated folks, we see every week statements demonstrating abject ignorance of the individual mandate, and that's the component most people should have at least a working knowledge of. Yet they don't.

Last night was listening to a call in show and some guy called up, still yapping about freaking "death panels."
 
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The problem with polling on the ACA is that a significant majority of the people who think they know enough about it to have an opinion actually don't understand it, pretty much at all.

Heck, on this board, of relatively well educated folks, we see every week statements demonstrating abject ignorance of the individual mandate, and that's the component most people should have at least a working knowledge of. Yet they don't.

Last night was listening to a call in show and some guy called up, still yapping about freaking "death panels."

Have you seen the ****ing bill?? Of course nobody understands it. Congress doesn't even understand it
 
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Have you seen the ****ing bill?? Of course nobody understands it. Congress doesn't even understand it

you mean the Congress that forgot to fund major parts of it? Nah, they did a great job passing a bill no one read and met the qualifications for veto that the Pres himself laid out

and the criticism coming from a poster that routinely makes incorrect statements about the bill is pretty funny
 

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