Obama campaign tries to wash its hands of the Romney/Cancer Ad

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lawgator1 said:
Yes.

Romney's surrogate who said that this could have been avoided had they had health insurance under the individual mandate like in Mass.
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avoiding the issue is exactly where you need to go. It's also where you typically go.
 
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Orlando Vol said:
Or what about this:

Ron Haskins, GOP Welfare Reform Architect, Blasts Mitt Romney Ad

Mitt Romney's latest television ad attacks the Obama administration for announcing a "plan to gut welfare reform by dropping work requirements." It's a strong allegation, but according to a former Republican congressional aide who was key to crafting welfare reform in the 1990s, it's also not true.

"There's no plausible scenario under which it really constitutes a serious attack on welfare reform," Ron Haskins, who is now co-director of the Brookings Institution's Center on Children and Families, said in an interview with NPR that aired on Wednesday.
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again, that's not the same as claiming Romney killed a man's wife
 
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MG1968 said:
again, that's not the same as claiming Romney killed a man's wife
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This is amazing. All anybody has to say is "that's a little much. Wish they hadn't run that ad." Instead, people are trying to figure some way to draw moral equivalence. Unreal.
 
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Orlando Vol said:
What about the **OFFICIAL** Romney ad, where he blatantly takes the phrase "You didn't build that" out of context?

Is that a "truthful" ad?

Especially, since it is almost EXACTLY something Romney has said himself?
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I'm not trying to defend Romney, but saying someone killed a man's wife is taking sh*t to a whole 'nother level.
 
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GAVol said:
This is amazing. All anybody has to say is "that's a little much. Wish they hadn't run that ad." Instead, people are trying to figure some way to draw moral equivalence. Unreal.
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Exactly - they stretched our policy record so we'll say he was responsible for some guy's wife dying - six of one...
 
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GAVol said:
This is amazing. All anybody has to say is "that's a little much. Wish they hadn't run that ad." Instead, people are trying to figure some way to draw moral equivalence. Unreal.
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Where has the ad been run other than the news media showing it.
Last I heard it had not been ran on any of the media ad buys.
 
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volfan6782 said:
The ad has been run otherwise how would the media outlets have picked it up? And the Obama campaign has gone back on there insistance that they knew nothing of the claims.

Obama camp acknowledges knowing man's story (Updated) - POLITICO.com
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It was reported on Morning Joe that Burton made this ad but never bought any air time to run it. From what I can gather, the news media got hold of the ad and went wild with it, running it over and over.

Sure the Obama camp knew about this. Burton is well connected to the Obama campaign.
 
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Gramps said:
It was reported on Morning Joe that Burton made this ad but never bought any air time to run it. From what I can gather, the news media got hold of the ad and went wild with it, running it over and over.

Sure the Obama camp knew about this. Burton is well connected to the Obama campaign.
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Then why even make the ad and release it for public use if you have no intention to run it?

And why did the Obama campaign deny any knowledge of the story initially when they had used Mr. Soptic's story in a previous Obama campaign call and then recant later?
 
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volfan6782 said:
Then why even make the ad and release it for public use if you have no intention to run it?

And why did the Obama campaign deny any knowledge of the story initially when they had used Mr. Soptic's story in a previous Obama campaign call and then recant later?
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Simple answer.
Burton made the ad, allowed the liberal media access to it.... presto .... What has dominated the news cycle this week?

Naturally Team Obama was going to try to distance themselves from this outlandish garbage. These politicians think they can lie about anything and spin their way out of it.

Team Obama has controlled the weekly news cycle at basically no cost. As long as they can control the newscycles they win.

This ad is a disgrace but it did what it was made to do.... control the week at no cost.
 
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Gramps said:
Simple answer.
Burton made the ad, allowed the liberal media access to it.... presto .... What has dominated the news cycle this week?

Naturally Team Obama was going to try to distance themselves from this outlandish garbage. These politicians think they can lie about anything and spin their way out of it.

Team Obama has controlled the weekly news cycle at basically no cost. As long as they can control the newscycles they win.

This ad is a disgrace but it did what it was made to do.... control the week at no cost.
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You really think the DNC wanted this to dominate the newscycle this week? They're still attacking Romney on Bain and his tax returns.

Distance themselves from the garbage? They used the garbage. They used the husband on a campaign conference call.

So you're asserting Obama controls the news cycle?

And on your last point, it's ok to be a disgrace as long as you control the week at no cost.... got it.
 
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volfan6782 said:
You really think the DNC wanted this to dominate the newscycle this week? They're still attacking Romney on Bain and his tax returns.

I think Team Obama wants to dominate with anything they can that portrays Romney in a negative way. Anything to to keep the message off the economy.



Distance themselves from the garbage? They used the garbage. They used the husband on a campaign conference call.


Team Obama had to distance themselves as much as possible and as I said earlier these politicians believe they can spin their way out of everything.
This is not a new tactic. Do you think the Bush campaign had nothing to do with the Kerry Swiftboat Ads or the slaughter put on McCain in SC in 2000?

So you're asserting Obama controls the news cycle?

no, I am saying this ad has controlled the news this week


And on your last point, it's ok to be a disgrace as long as you control the week at no cost.... got it.


No I am not saying it is okay, I am saying that is how it works. Both sides are win at all cost. Getting to 270 is all these guys care about and don't care what they have to do to get there.
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Orlando Vol said:
What about the **OFFICIAL** Romney ad, where he blatantly takes the phrase "You didn't build that" out of context?

Is that a "truthful" ad?

Especially, since it is almost EXACTLY something Romney has said himself?
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That was completely in context. At least LG has a hot chick in his avatar..
 
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Bloomberg columnist and NBC correspondent Jonathan Alter chimed in saying that if Romney is elected "alot of people will die" and "Obamacare will save, literally, thousands of lives."

Alter On ObamaCare: "If We Elect Romney, A Lot Of People Will Die" | RealClearPolitics

"Repeal equals death," columnist Jonathan Alter said on MSNBC's "Ed Show" tonight. "People will die in the United States if ObamaCare is repealed. That is not an exaggeration. That is not crying fire. It's a simple fact. If you have preexisting conditions and you are thrown off of health insurance, or if you get sick after you or your husband, spouse, loses the job, you're not going to go to the doctor as soon, your cancer or disease is not going to be caught as quickly, and your odds of dying are much, much increased."

"ObamaCare will save, literally, thousands of lives," Alter declared.

"They don't need to embrace this ad and get into a big fight about whether they were calling Mitt Romney a murderer or whatever. They need to move on to a debate about the main issue, which is ObamaCare. And they can bring death into the conversation and say, 'No, we're not calling Mitt Romney a murderer, what we are saying is that if he's elected president, a lot of people will die.' Those are two slightly different, but related issues," Alter said.
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I think I see now how this works.

Any offensive super-PAC ad supportive of Obama was written by Barack, himself, whereas any offensive ad supportive of Romney is by people Romney has never heard of and can't influence in the slightest.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I think I see now how this works.

Any offensive super-PAC ad supportive of Obama was written by Barack, himself, whereas any offensive ad supportive of Romney is by people Romney has never heard of and can't influence in the slightest.
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In what ad did any Super Pac say Obama killed someone?
 
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volfan6782 said:
Obama backers won't pull 'disgusting' TV ad - Washington Times

So Gramps is it Obama refusing to pull the ad or Burton?
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Gramps said:
If Obama did not want it out, it would not be out.

By the article you posted I stand corrected. The Morning Joe show did a piece on this Wednesday or Thursday morning. They were reporting that Burton had made the ad but had not bought any air time for it, that the news media was how it was getting out to the public.
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CBS is also reporting the ad has not run yet in an article this morning.

Obama/Romney negative ads going to new extremes - CBS News


The ad about Soptic's wife has gotten all the attention it has even though it hasn't even aired anywhere yet. It goes into rotation this week or next in five battleground states.
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CBS is all over the place on this.

Here is another link from them that states:

AIRING: On television in Iowa, Ohio, Virginia, Pennsylvania and Florida, and on the Web.

ANALYSIS: The latest ad by the pro-Obama Priorities USA Action super political action committee, part of a $20 million campaign, is the most intense negative media attack yet on Romney for his 15-year stewardship of the Bain Capital private equity firm and the layoffs that sometimes resulted from the firm's cost-cutting at its takeover targets.
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AdWatch: Democrats' ad hits Romney on Bain past - CBS News
 
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lawgator1 said:
I think I see now how this works.

Any offensive super-PAC ad supportive of Obama was written by Barack, himself, whereas any offensive ad supportive of Romney is by people Romney has never heard of and can't influence in the slightest.
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who made that argument? they both have say in the ads being aired. Either of them trying to distance himself is blatantly lying. Obama might be lazy and have no work ethic whatsoever, but he's on top of campaign message since it's all he's ever done.

Now, back to that dumbass lie about Romney indirectly killing someone - you got anything there? Maybe nana nana boo boo....
 
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lawgator1 said:
I think I see now how this works.

Any offensive super-PAC ad supportive of Obama was written by Barack, himself, whereas any offensive ad supportive of Romney is by people Romney has never heard of and can't influence in the slightest.
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What pro-Romney ad has come close to this level of filth? Even if one were to say that every Romney ad tells lies and takes Obama's words out of context, could one really argue that they come anywhere near this crap?
 
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