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The Ron Mexico said:
I wish all the Barack Obama haters would just admit the real reason they hate him.
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No Problem....

I hate him because he hates America. He actively tries to make this great nation into something to fit his own Marxist imaginings - something that does not even resemble the nation our founding fathers planned. He is a terrorist loving narcissist. He openly disregards our constitution and our laws.

Is this concise enough for you?
 
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RespectTradition said:
I can't answer for all of them, but for me:

He is a progressive, statist, interventionist, warmongering, lying, self-serving, economically illiterate, freedom-hating, big government scallywag.
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Good except 'scalawag' was a derogatory term used to describe white southern republicans in the post civil war reconstruction era by racist democrats.



Headed For Home said:
No Problem....

I hate him because he hates America. He actively tries to make this great nation into something to fit his own Marxist imaginings - something that does not even resemble the nation our founding fathers planned. He is a terrorist loving narcissist. He openly disregards our constitution and our laws.

Is this concise enough for you?
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Very good! :good!:

I don't really even hate him, I do hate what he is trying to do to America.

As for the Trumpster comments, Trump is evidently an idiot or is really shilling for Obama.

The internet computer generated birth certificate has been proven to be as bogus as a three dollar bill.

That's why he wouldn't produce such bogus evidence into court evidence and would spend millions avoiding it.
 
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Headed For Home said:
No Problem....

I hate him because he hates America. He actively tries to make this great nation into something to fit his own Marxist imaginings - something that does not even resemble the nation our founding fathers planned. He is a terrorist loving narcissist. He openly disregards our constitution and our laws.

Is this concise enough for you?
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I appreciate your passion, but you didn't mention any specific examples. Don't take the following as a personal indictment, because I don't know you personally. But in general, lots of people call Obama a Socialist/Communist/Marxist. Few know how those words are defined. Right wingers just like to scream them because they heard someone on the radio say it.
 
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The Ron Mexico said:
I appreciate your passion, but you didn't mention any specific examples. Don't take the following as a personal indictment, because I don't know you personally. But in general, lots of people call Obama a Socialist/Communist/Marxist. Few know how those words are defined. Right wingers just like to scream them because they heard someone on the radio say it.
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the implication being that right wingers only get their information from talk radio and FNC, right?

Obama's father was a Marxist/Socialist, his early mentor Frank Marshall Davis was a socialist, Obama himself has stated that while in college, he personally sought out the campus radicals (socialists, etc.), he has stated previously that the Constitution is a "charter of negative liberties". Black liberation theology borrows heavily from socialist economic principles.

Obama is no Karl Marx, but he's no Ludwig von Mises either.
 
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MG1968 said:
the implication being that right wingers only get their information from talk radio and FNC, right?

Obama's father was a Marxist/Socialist, his early mentor Frank Marshall Davis was a socialist, Obama himself has stated that while in college, he personally sought out the campus radicals (socialists, etc.), he has stated previously that the Constitution is a "charter of negative liberties". Black liberation theology borrows heavily from socialist economic principles.

Obama is no Karl Marx, but he's no Ludwig von Mises either.
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If what they did growing up in college applies to them in office, then Bush was a massive coke fiend as president, and Clinton smoked weed and fu... Well I suppose we can gloss over that one. :)
 
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MG1968 said:
the implication being that right wingers only get their information from talk radio and FNC, right?
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I'm not implying it, I'm saying it outright. But you conveniently left out my disclaimer of "in general". And what Milo said is exactly right. Will I be judged at 50 on what I did when I was 20?
 
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milohimself said:
If what they did growing up in college applies to them in office, then Bush was a massive coke fiend as president, and Clinton smoked weed and fu... Well I suppose we can gloss over that one. :)
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Obama has done nothing to distance himself from his past other than to throw Jeremiah Wright under the bus.

W. at least overcame his drug and alcohol problem.
 
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gsvol said:
Good except 'scalawag' was a derogatory term used to describe white southern republicans in the post civil war reconstruction era by racist democrats.
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Since the republicans of that era were mercantilist, against states rights, ignored the constitution and wanted to punish anyone who dared disagree with them, then I think the description applies to Obama. Don't you?
 
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The Ron Mexico said:
I appreciate your passion, but you didn't mention any specific examples. Don't take the following as a personal indictment, because I don't know you personally. But in general, lots of people call Obama a Socialist/Communist/Marxist. Few know how those words are defined. Right wingers just like to scream them because they heard someone on the radio say it.
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How about his recess appointments. The appointment of czars to over see private industry. His refusal of the Keystone pipeline. His affiliation with Ayers. His statemenyts during the campaign about sharing the wealth and reditstribution. His talk of limiting the earning potential of private citizens.
 
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The Ron Mexico said:
I'm not implying it, I'm saying it outright. But you conveniently left out my disclaimer of "in general". And what Milo said is exactly right. Will I be judged at 50 on what I did when I was 20?
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there is no statute of limitations in the court of public opinion
 
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#190
OBAMA'S SNEAKY TREATIES
By DICK MORRIS
Published on TheHill.com on February 7, 2012

President Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton are entering negotiations over -- or seeking ratification of -- five treaties that could radically limit our national sovereignty and the reach of our democratic institutions. Particularly scary is that the treaties, once signed and ratified, have the same status as constitutional law and cannot be altered or eclipsed by Congress or state legislatures. And their provisions must be enforced by U.S. courts.

Those who wish to preserve our sovereignty and democratic control over our future must rally to block these treaties, either by pressing Obama and Clinton not to sign them or by blocking their ratification.
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• International Criminal Court -- Clinton has reversed George W. Bush's policy and entered into negotiations over U.S. participation in the court. Specifically, the leftists who are sponsoring the court wish to create a new crime of "aggression," which is essentially going to war without the approval of the United Nations. If we submit to the court's jurisdiction, our presidents and Cabinet officials could be prosecuted criminally for going to war without U.N. approval. This would, of course, give Russia and China a veto over our military actions. Clinton says she will stop our military's hands from being tied, but we all must realize that once we accept the International Criminal Court, we go down a slippery slope. The court could even prosecute Americans who have been cleared by our own judicial system.

• The Law of the Sea Treaty (LOST) has been signed, and the Obama administration -- with the aid of RINO Sen. Richard Lugar (Ind.) -- will push for its ratification as soon as Lugar's primary in Indiana is over this year. LOST requires that the United States pay an international body half of its royalties from offshore drilling. The body would then distribute the funds as it sees fit to whichever nations it chooses. The United States would only have one vote out of 160 regarding where the money goes. LOST will also oblige us to hand over our offshore drilling technology to any nation that wants it ... for free.

• Small-arms control -- Clinton is about to negotiate on a global ban on export of small arms. It would only apply to private citizens but, of course, most small-arms deals come not from individuals or private firms but from governments, specifically those of the United States, Russia, China and Israel. The treaty would require each nation to adopt measures to stop exportation of small arms. It is easy to see how this could be a backdoor way to require national registration of all guns and to assert federal regulation over firearms. It would also require the registration of all ammunition to track its source once a gun is fired. The Second Amendment be damned!

• Outer Space Code of Conduct -- Under the guise of stopping debris from accumulating in outer space, the European Union has enlisted Clinton in negotiations over a code of conduct. The code would prohibit activities that are likely to generate debris in outer space -- space littering. The code might inhibit or prohibit the United States from deploying anti-missile missiles on platforms in space, denying us the key weapon we need to counter Iranian, Chinese and North Korean missile threats. European leftists reacted angrily when G.W. Bush opted out of the ABM treaty banning defensive weapons. Now they seek to reimpose it under the guise of a code of conduct.

• Rights of the Child -- Even more fanciful is a treaty Clinton plans to negotiate setting forth a code of rights for children, to be administered by a 14-member court set up for the purpose. The draft treaty obliges rich nations to provide funds for shelter, food, clothing and education for children in poor nations. This provision could create grounds to litigate to challenge the level of foreign aid we give as inadequate to meet our treaty obligations. Already, leftists in the United Kingdom are using the treaty to attack welfare cuts by the Cameron government.
 
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#192
Just decided to pick this apart...

Headed For Home said:
OBAMA'S SNEAKY TREATIES
By DICK MORRIS
Published on TheHill.com on February 7, 2012

President Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton are entering negotiations over -- or seeking ratification of -- five treaties that could radically limit our national sovereignty and the reach of our democratic institutions. Particularly scary is that the treaties, once signed and ratified, have the same status as constitutional law and cannot be altered or eclipsed by Congress or state legislatures. And their provisions must be enforced by U.S. courts.

Those who wish to preserve our sovereignty and democratic control over our future must rally to block these treaties, either by pressing Obama and Clinton not to sign them or by blocking their ratification.
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• International Criminal Court -- Clinton has reversed George W. Bush's policy and entered into negotiations over U.S. participation in the court. Specifically, the leftists who are sponsoring the court wish to create a new crime of "aggression," which is essentially going to war without the approval of the United Nations. If we submit to the court's jurisdiction, our presidents and Cabinet officials could be prosecuted criminally for going to war without U.N. approval. This would, of course, give Russia and China a veto over our military actions. Clinton says she will stop our military's hands from being tied, but we all must realize that once we accept the International Criminal Court, we go down a slippery slope. The court could even prosecute Americans who have been cleared by our own judicial system.
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Per the DoS and every other source I can find, there is no intent and has not been anything more than acting as an observer party to the ICC, the same role that Russia and China take. The US has not made any attempt or indicated it would make any attempt to place itself subject to the ICC.

International Criminal Court

• The Law of the Sea Treaty (LOST) has been signed, and the Obama administration -- with the aid of RINO Sen. Richard Lugar (Ind.) -- will push for its ratification as soon as Lugar's primary in Indiana is over this year. LOST requires that the United States pay an international body half of its royalties from offshore drilling. The body would then distribute the funds as it sees fit to whichever nations it chooses. The United States would only have one vote out of 160 regarding where the money goes. LOST will also oblige us to hand over our offshore drilling technology to any nation that wants it ... for free.
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You're right, this one did make it out of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee -- with a 17-4 vote that was highly encouraged by then-president George W. Bush.

Ratification of the treaty is supported by the US Navy and members of the oil and gas industry. Among other countries who join us in not ratifying the treaty: Venezuela, Libya (under Qadafi), Central African Republic, Iran, Syria and North Korea.

• Small-arms control -- Clinton is about to negotiate on a global ban on export of small arms. It would only apply to private citizens but, of course, most small-arms deals come not from individuals or private firms but from governments, specifically those of the United States, Russia, China and Israel. The treaty would require each nation to adopt measures to stop exportation of small arms. It is easy to see how this could be a backdoor way to require national registration of all guns and to assert federal regulation over firearms. It would also require the registration of all ammunition to track its source once a gun is fired. The Second Amendment be damned!
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No, it is not easy to see how this could be a backdoor way to accomplish this. The SCOTUS established over forty years ago that bans or regulation on firearms within the US cannot be enacted as a result of an international treaty, they can only come from domestic legislation. And even if they could, treaties such as this one require 2/3 'yea' votes in the senate.

I wonder if there is anything to the nation's leading gun control advocates giving Obama a failing grade.

• Outer Space Code of Conduct -- Under the guise of stopping debris from accumulating in outer space, the European Union has enlisted Clinton in negotiations over a code of conduct. The code would prohibit activities that are likely to generate debris in outer space -- space littering. The code might inhibit or prohibit the United States from deploying anti-missile missiles on platforms in space, denying us the key weapon we need to counter Iranian, Chinese and North Korean missile threats. European leftists reacted angrily when G.W. Bush opted out of the ABM treaty banning defensive weapons. Now they seek to reimpose it under the guise of a code of conduct.
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I can find nothing of the sort, except that the US already rejected a ban on using defensive missiles, and the DoS has specifically said it would continue to do so.

• Rights of the Child -- Even more fanciful is a treaty Clinton plans to negotiate setting forth a code of rights for children, to be administered by a 14-member court set up for the purpose. The draft treaty obliges rich nations to provide funds for shelter, food, clothing and education for children in poor nations. This provision could create grounds to litigate to challenge the level of foreign aid we give as inadequate to meet our treaty obligations. Already, leftists in the United Kingdom are using the treaty to attack welfare cuts by the Cameron government.
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Tired of rebutting and clarifying the nonsense from this article, so I'll just post the link and let you decide whether or not it's another spooky UN bogeyman trying to undermine the constitution. The Campaign for US Ratification of the CRC - Home
 
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