Obama "not opposed" to sin tax on soda

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lawgator1 said:
We have to pay off these ridiculous budget deficits left over from George Bush and the Republican Congress, plus pay for the stimulus required to bail us out from 8 years of economic ruin thrust upon us by Bush & Co. How else would you propose we pay for it?
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Special tax on lawyer's earnings perhaps?

Looks like the pledge "if you make less than $250K your taxes won't go up one dime" is out the window.

Hope! Change! Tax! Spend!
 
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lawgator1 said:
My post was a bit tongue in cheek about blaming it all on Bush. Both parties share the blame for our fiscal situation, if you ask me.

But there is the question of how we will deal with it. I don't view the proposal to tax soda as really oriented on being the answer to our budget woes, more of a tax designed to modify bad behavior and encourage good.

In principle, I don't necessarily have a problem with that theory. But in practice, it has always seemed to me that to have the desired effect on behavior the tax has to basically rise to truly punitive levels in order to have any real effect. Is a can of Coke going to have to cost $2 before anybody opts for water, instead? Probably.
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In general I would like to agree with you. However, if you look at the situation with taxes on cigarettes as an example, many states (including those in the south) are currently looking at increases to this tax... but not to modify bad behavior. Instead, the primary reason is that many states need to increase revenues and they see this as one of the options. Any other sin taxes would likely fall into the same scenario and would become just another source of government revenue!

And just for the record, I am not a smoker.
 
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TennTradition said:
Last week, I actually toyed with making an avatar almost just like yours, going back and forth between what you have and "Berrium" (But I didn't like the Ba vs. the Be, so I like your choice).

I ended up going this route instead, but it is a little small.
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Well you were my inspiration, I'll admit. I adjusted the atomic number and spelling, as I'm sure you noticed.
 
#29
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lawgator1 said:
We have to pay off these ridiculous budget deficits left over from George Bush and the Republican Congress, plus pay for the stimulus required to bail us out from 8 years of economic ruin thrust upon us by Bush & Co. How else would you propose we pay for it?
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Save money by implementing UHC and a bunch of other entitlement programs. That'd be my strategy.
 
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lawgator1 said:
We have to pay off these ridiculous budget deficits left over from George Bush and the Republican Congress, plus pay for the stimulus required to bail us out from 8 years of economic ruin thrust upon us by Bush & Co. How else would you propose we pay for it?
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Oh I don't know, cut your precious goverment's spending?

:dunno:
 
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lawgator1 said:
My post was a bit tongue in cheek about blaming it all on Bush. Both parties share the blame for our fiscal situation, if you ask me.

But there is the question of how we will deal with it. I don't view the proposal to tax soda as really oriented on being the answer to our budget woes, more of a tax designed to modify bad behavior and encourage good.

In principle, I don't necessarily have a problem with that theory. But in practice, it has always seemed to me that to have the desired effect on behavior the tax has to basically rise to truly punitive levels in order to have any real effect. Is a can of Coke going to have to cost $2 before anybody opts for water, instead? Probably.
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You truly hate freedom!

:hi:
 
#37
#37
They can tax my "sodas", tax my candy bars, but the instant they try and raise my taxes on(when the HOT sign is on) Krispy Kreme's and cold milk, its time to declare war!!!!!!
 
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#38
I don't have a problem with taxes being placed on certain items, like sodas or cigarettes. What I do have a problem with is the government using that additional revenue stream to fund social welfare projects. Inevitably, the revenue stream decreases as the taxes are raised ever higher, but the government never learns to deal with less, so they find new taxes to impose.

"Sin taxes" and the like should only be used to pay down the deficit, and the way Teleprompter Jesus is going about spending money, $2 for a can of Coke is going to be a bargain.
 
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kptvol said:
I don't think it involves having to pay Uncle Sam to drink a Coke.
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Me, either. In fact, except in the most tangential way, I don't think the two are related to one another. That was sort of my point.

If you ask me, people who suggest that this issue implicates "freedom" are just engaging in some real reaching.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Me, either. In fact, except in the most tangential way, I don't think the two are related to one another. That was sort of my point.

If you ask me, people who suggest that this issue implicates "freedom" are just engaging in some real reaching.
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On the spectrum of freedom-lover to freedom-hater, it's something that farther down on the hate side.
 
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utvolpj said:
because bmi is a wonderful way to figure it out? You realize the starting MLB for our football team would be taxed and the QB is almost there
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I was joking. I knew i should of put that in there somewhere
 
#45
#45
lawgator1 said:
Me, either. In fact, except in the most tangential way, I don't think the two are related to one another. That was sort of my point.

If you ask me, people who suggest that this issue implicates "freedom" are just engaging in some real reaching.
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That is some fancy Lawyer Jedi Mink speak.

Let me guess, you have quoted this over 1,000 times.

Your honor, __________________ was born in _________ County and has lived here all of his life. He graduated from ______________ High School.
He is very sorry that he was drinking on the night of _____________ and he understands what he did was wrong. My client asks the court to consider that he has two children and that being away for any extended amount of time would be detrimental to their safety and well being.
 
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MG1968 said:
I don't have a problem with taxes being placed on certain items, like sodas or cigarettes. What I do have a problem with is the government using that additional revenue stream to fund social welfare projects. Inevitably, the revenue stream decreases as the taxes are raised ever higher, but the government never learns to deal with less, so they find new taxes to impose.

"Sin taxes" and the like should only be used to pay down the deficit, and the way Teleprompter Jesus is going about spending money, $2 for a can of Coke is going to be a bargain.
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Now this is nonsense. We are to the point now that we just make up problems in order to find a reason to create a tax. You are being way too rationale. Most people now just assume more taxes are needed but just don't want it on them or their stuff, but oh hell yea, they're all for giving the government more money.
 
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#48
I went in for my yearly health check up and the good doctor and I got into a heated discussion over politics. He told me that we are all country club members and we need to pony up and pay to keep up our life style.

To borrow from Boortz....... You ignorant slut!
 
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OrangeEmpire said:
That is some fancy Lawyer Jedi Mink speak.

Let me guess, you have quoted this over 1,000 times.

Your honor, __________________ was born in _________ County and has lived here all of his life. He graduated from ______________ High School.
He is very sorry that he was drinking on the night of _____________ and he understands what he did was wrong. My client asks the court to consider that he has two children and that being away for any extended amount of time would be detrimental to their safety and well being.
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not to mention, Your Honor, the Family Dollar my client works at is having a sale on jorts this weekend.
 
#50
#50
Nothing beats a good jorts joke in the politics section.

I drink diet, but this is total BS. By this logic, you'd have tax anything that could be 'correlated' with being obese....

One and done, sir.
 
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