Obama: Sex Ed for Kindergarten Right Thing To Do

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truefan said:
So the next time your child walks into the room when you are watching ER and a couple are going at it, see if you can explain it to your child better than a trained educator
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I have no doubt that I'll do just fine.
 
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I guess you guys don't want teachers spanking your children either. I would be interested to know how you stand on that issue in order to get a better understanding of you
 
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truefan said:
I guess you guys don't want teachers spanking your children either. I would be interested to know how you stand on that issue in order to get a better understanding of you
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I think teachers ought to be able to flog a kid anytime they get out of line.
 
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OK with spanking here as well.

I would think the pro-sex ed crowd in public schools would be the ones against spanking.
 
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Truefan, I am not gonna quote you on everything you have said but I am gonna tell you that teaching kindergarteners about sex education is or is close to borderline pedophilia. If you want some stranger teaching your child about what a penis is or a vagina then I personally think you have issues. Kids don't even need to know what those things are until they are at least 11-13. Big brother government can stay away when it comes to this issue, because I am comfortable enough and mature enough to talk with my child about this when they get old enough.
 
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GAVol said:
It's a pretty worthless idea . . . but I don't think it remotely approaches pedophilia.
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Sorry man, someone teaching a 5 year old about sex has to either be a pedophile or have NO moral standards what so ever. Just my opinion though.
 
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GAVol said:
It's a pretty worthless idea . . . but I don't think it remotely approaches pedophilia.
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Don't you just love it when discussion of a nonsense issue continues right down the path to full blown idiocy?
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Truefan, I am not gonna quote you on everything you have said but I am gonna tell you that teaching kindergarteners about sex education is or is close to borderline pedophilia. If you want some stranger teaching your child about what a penis is or a vagina then I personally think you have issues. Kids don't even need to know what those things are until they are at least 11-13. Big brother government can stay away when it comes to this issue, because I am comfortable enough and mature enough to talk with my child about this when they get old enough.
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You have taken it way out of context now. Of course you have a right to your personal opinions, bu you are taking it to another level which hasn't been discussed. You probably are best suited to teach your child, I won't disagree with that. But many aren't qualified to teach their own children.

I knew what my penis was long before I was 11 years old though. LOL

I am not totally convicted on this issue. I suppose you guys may be right about it being a little young;however, it is already taught in many schools. I am in my mid 40s and can remember a class called "Married Living" available as an elective at my high school. It was nothing more than sex ed.
 
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truefan said:
You have taken it way out of context now. Of course you have a right to your personal opinions, bu you are taking it to another level which hasn't been discussed. You probably are best suited to teach your child, I won't disagree with that. But many aren't qualified to teach their own children.

I knew what my penis was long before I was 11 years old though. LOL

I am not totally convicted on this issue. I suppose you guys may be right about it being a little young;however, it is already taught in many schools. I am in my mid 40s and can remember a class called "Married Living" available as an elective at my high school. It was nothing more than sex ed.
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So why did they have children?? If you aren't qualified to talk to your OWN children then don't have any until you get mature enough to do so. That's the problem immature people have children, then that breeds more immaturity later in life for their children.
 
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GAVol said:
First of all, it has nothing to do with spin. It's just a fundamental question of what to teach children.

I've got a 5 year old, and I spend a good amount of my time doing child safety seminars, so this hits pretty close to home for me. I don't think anybody would argue with you about teaching kids about "bad touches". Although, I handle that at home and don't rely on the school. That's just where we are as a society. But even basic reproduction is going a little too far IMO for a 5 year old.
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My daughter is six and she realizes that mommy has a baby "in her tummy" and that it will be coming out of her "bottom" (she got that one when she was four and her brother was born). I would prefer her to have this level of knowledge over her going to school and telling her classmates that the stork or baby fairy was bringing her a baby sister. That is about as much as I feel she needs to know right now.

That is why I made the point earlier that I would be interested to hear what he deems an appropriate level of sex ed. at that age.
 
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vader said:
My daughter is six and she realizes that mommy has a baby "in her tummy" and that it will be coming out of her "bottom" (she got that one when she was four and her brother was born). I would prefer her to have this level of knowledge over her going to school and telling her classmates that the stork or baby fairy was bringing her a baby sister. That is about as much as I feel she needs to know right now.

That is why I made the point earlier that I would be interested to hear what he deems an appropriate level of sex ed. at that age.
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You're way ahead of me. My 5 year old thinks the baby in his Mommy's tummy is going to come out her mouth and I haven't really told him anything other than "I doubt it, but she talks a lot so you never know." :crazy:
 
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GAVol said:
You're way ahead of me. My 5 year old thinks the baby in his Mommy's tummy is going to come out her mouth and I haven't really told him anything other than "I doubt it, but she talks a lot so you never know." :crazy:
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:lol: When is your wife due?
 
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December 11th, but the first two have both been early, so it could be closer to yours.

I am coming to the GA game solo as my last hurrah. An old college roommate has promised me a ticket. :)
 
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truefan said:
Obviously, you are taking it totally out of context. And of course, if it was up to the bible thumping right, it would be taught to never have sex unless you are married...and that would be taught in college. LOL. Unfortunately, in our current times, too many kids are getting pregnant before they ever reach high school. So while you can go hide your head in the sand with the rest of the far right, being proactive in our sex education for children at an earlier age is appropriate, whether you like it or not.
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So, are we to interpret that you are taking sex outside marriage, termed fornication biblically, out of context. Whether you have yielded to the sin or not, and virtually all of us have, is that not what it says, and therefore means. So to, then, when we read this idiocracy form Obama, we take it out of context, since you apparently are his appointed rectal examiner.
 
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Do people in here actually believe there is something wrong with teaching elementary school students the differences in basic anatomy and that babies do not come from storks?
 
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therealUT said:
Do people in here actually believe there is something wrong with teaching elementary school students the differences in basic anatomy and that babies do not come from storks?
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Elementary school students - probably OK. 5 year olds . . . don't think so.
 
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therealUT said:
Do people in here actually believe there is something wrong with teaching elementary school students the differences in basic anatomy and that babies do not come from storks?
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Of course they do. Teaching them those things could lead to dancing.
 
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GAVol said:
Elementary school students - probably OK. 5 year olds . . . don't think so.
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So, teaching 5 year olds that boys and girls are different (which would technically fall under either anatomy or sex ed) is wrong? I would have to disagree. I would also state that it is not wrong for schools to enlighten kids to the fact that their "private area" should not be touched by anyone but themselves, to include their parents. This would probably cut down on a lot of domestic pedophilia...
 
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truefan said:
Whatever, spin it however you would like. I think teaching 5 year olds about where to "not touch" and what constitutes "bad touches" is a good idea. and it probably isn't too early to teach basic human reproduction.
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My son is 4 1/2. Do you have kids. Do you have any idea where there mentality is at this point in their life and what they actually process mentally. They are smart as hell. But, their their socio-sexual development is a few years away.
 
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