Obama: Sex Ed for Kindergarten Right Thing To Do

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therealUT said:
Do people in here actually believe there is something wrong with teaching elementary school students the differences in basic anatomy and that babies do not come from storks?
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I doubt that. I would say people are more against the idea of government teaching their kids about the role sex should play in their life. Of course you open yourself up to this type of slippery slope by shipping your kid off to public school, but that's another issue. I would say most people are fine with anatomy.
 
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obama needs to expand on this a little more. when i first saw this article the first things that popped into my head was the "Proper Condom Use" episode of South Park.
 
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allvol123 said:
I doubt that. I would say people are more against the idea of government teaching their kids about the role sex should play in their life. Of course you open yourself up to this type of slippery slope by shipping your kid off to public school, but that's another issue. I would say most people are fine with anatomy.
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Hell, I am against the government teaching any kids anything. However, if you are going to place your kids in to government care, then I see no problem with them slowly building up to actual intercourse education classes (probably 4th or 5th grade) starting at Kindergarten or 1st grade.

I know that I got those kinds of classes when I was that age. Of course, my parents told me the differences and what should not be touched by other people before I went to preschool. I also was not primarily educated in government institutions though.
 
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First of all, sex education in and of itself in schools is a farce anyway. There as as many teachers sexually twined with students as there are priests. It don't mean crap. "Hey Suzie, sex can get you pregnant or give you diseases. Meet me after school. You'll get an A." The answer to alot of our troubled youths problems are maintaining strong family units that foster and develop, love, teaching, etc, etc. All the divorce, all the cheating, all the drinking in front of the kids, and so on...Do you think they are going to get morals at school. Wake up people. The only people responsible for those kids are the mom and dad, and when they are sorry, no one can teach much else. You do have exceptions, and mentors that make impacts. Not the rule here, but the biggest impact on kids is the home. Good or Bad.
 
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therealUT said:
Hell, I am against the government teaching any kids anything. However, if you are going to place your kids in to government care, then I see no problem with them slowly building up to actual intercourse education classes (probably 4th or 5th grade) starting at Kindergarten or 1st grade.

I know that I got those kinds of classes when I was that age. Of course, my parents told me the differences and what should not be touched by other people before I went to preschool. I also was not primarily educated in government institutions though.
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Again the anatomy thing is ok as well as sexual reproduction, but I think people worry about this being turned into something else. Basically I agree with you, but public schools suck and I can see how this would completely get messed up and really would just prefer them to leave it to the parents at home.
 
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If the parents were decent the kids wouldn't have to learn how to read at school. Or how to do long division, write in complete sentences, disect a frog, etc., etc.
 
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In kindergarten I didn't want to hold a girl's hand. If my teacher had told me I had to do "that" with a girl I would have thrown up.
 
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therealUT said:
So, teaching 5 year olds that boys and girls are different (which would technically fall under either anatomy or sex ed) is wrong? I would have to disagree. I would also state that it is not wrong for schools to enlighten kids to the fact that their "private area" should not be touched by anyone but themselves, to include their parents. This would probably cut down on a lot of domestic pedophilia...
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The only way to have a 4/5 year old kindergarten child understand the differences of anatomy is for the teacher to touch them down there and tell them boys have this and girls have that and as they are doing so explaining it is wrong to let anyone else do it or tell anyone they did. Sounds like catholic school.
 
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GVF said:
First of all, sex education in and of itself in schools is a farce anyway. There as as many teachers sexually twined with students as there are priests. It don't mean crap. "Hey Suzie, sex can get you pregnant or give you diseases. Meet me after school. You'll get an A." The answer to alot of our troubled youths problems are maintaining strong family units that foster and develop, love, teaching, etc, etc. All the divorce, all the cheating, all the drinking in front of the kids, and so on...Do you think they are going to get morals at school. Wake up people. The only people responsible for those kids are the mom and dad, and when they are sorry, no one can teach much else. You do have exceptions, and mentors that make impacts. Not the rule here, but the biggest impact on kids is the home. Good or Bad.
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Like I said, I want whoever "educates" these kids to explain to their buddies their job title of "Professional Sex Education Teach to 5 Year-Olds" and not be called a pedophile or something close to that.
 
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GVF said:
The only way to have a 4/5 year old kindergarten child understand the differences of anatomy is for the teacher to touch them down there and tell them boys have this and girls have that and as they are doing so explaining it is wrong to let anyone else do it or tell anyone they did. Sounds like catholic school.
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Interesting. I guess your kindergarten teachers were mutes. My teachers always had pretty decent speaking ability.
 
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TuskALoosa said:
In kindergarten I didn't want to hold a girl's hand. If my teacher had told me I had to do "that" with a girl I would have thrown up.
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Then they would have to also learn about how to diversify their financial portfolio before they got married in the third grade.
 
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i dont have a problem with what obama is saying here, other than he wants to starts at kindergarten. i still think that may be too young for any kind of talk about sex, anatomy or otherwise. i would at least wait until 3rd grade or so.
 
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therealUT said:
Interesting. I guess your kindergarten teachers were mutes. My teachers always had pretty decent speaking ability.
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It's not the communicator in this case, but the communicatee. I know you are smart enough to have read that properly. And you even remember your kindergarten teacher. I barely remember finger painting, much less the girls skeeter bites that sat next to me.
 
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duckman398686 said:
i dont have a problem with what obama is saying here, other than he wants to starts at kindergarten. i still think that may be too young for any kind of talk about sex, anatomy or otherwise. i would at least wait until 3rd grade or so.
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I don't think it is going to change anyone's opinion either way. Just another example of who he is, the government is there to do everything guy. That is what he is, not a shock.
 
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Can we at least all agree that it is moronic for a Presidential candidate to speak off the cuff about Sex Ed for 5 year olds in front of an audience?
 
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It certainly is not an issue that is going to get him votes that he would not otherwise have gotten.
 
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allvol123 said:
I don't think it is going to change anyone's opinion either way. Just another example of who he is, the government is there to do everything guy. That is what he is, not a shock.
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Craziness, a black man in favor of government control. Go figure. Kind of ironic though that more blacks are on welfare than any other race.
 
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GVF said:
It's not the communicator in this case, but the communicatee. I know you are smart enough to have read that properly. And you even remember your kindergarten teacher. I barely remember finger painting, much less the girls skeeter bites that sat next to me.
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I am smart enough to see the value in teaching children what is appropriate touching in a day and age when children often live almost entirely isolated from everyone but their family when they are not at school. Children play inside much more these days, often have less siblings, and play in much smaller groups. This leads to more opportunity for pedophiles and less opportunity for these children to actually speak about it or for warning signs to appear.
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
Craziness, a black man in favor of government control. Go figure. Kind of ironic though that more blacks are on welfare than any other race.
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Reparations for the transgressions against their quadrouple great grandparent that sucks the tax dollars right out of my hard earned check.
 
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