Obama: The great jobs killer?

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no way looking for work is a full time job. that's coachspeak. i've been unemployed for brief periods and even if you are working your arse off trying to find a job you aren't spending over a couple of hours a day.
 
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overseasorange2 said:
Well obviously my current company thinks I deserved the pay increase I got compared to my previous employer:)

Any employment counselor will tell you that looking for a job is a full-time job. Why should I work 40 hours a week at a fast food chain, when I can let the government pay me the same amount while I look for job in my profession? I, myself, think that is rather logical. So did the unemployment center...by the way. I don't mean forever, I mean for awhile.

If I took the job at the fast food chain, I would question my intelligence. I did the right thing for me and my family at the time. I have yet to meet someone that was overjoyed by their job loss. I sure hope you are not in buisiness:eek:lol:.

Being in the oil biz for thirty years, I have survived many layoffs. It's funny how the surviving employees always justify an employees layoff. All of a sudden they were not such good employees. I think people do this to ease their concerns. They don't want to think that their company would lay-off a good employee, because that rocks their security.


Anyway, instead of the government supporting these slackers, let's send the money to poor Ahab in Iraq(which was my original debate here).

Signing off.....:hi:
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I've never had to look for a job for more than a few hours...

Any system that pays you more to sit on your ass is a flawed system. I can't put it any more plainly than that.
 
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Lexvol said:
I've never had to look for a job for more than a few hours...

Any system that pays you more to sit on your ass is a flawed system. I can't put it any more plainly than that.
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plain, complicated or otherwise, it's immaterial in this instance. Personal responsibility and pride aren't near as important as the government's function to provide income for everyone without a gig, at the expense of those who do have one, own companies or somehow earn a living themselves. It's the European way.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
plain, complicated or otherwise, it's immaterial in this instance. Personal responsibility and pride aren't near as important as the government's function to provide income for everyone without a gig, at the expense of those who do have one, own companies or somehow earn a living themselves. It's the European way.
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We the people....
 
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overseasorange2 said:
Good for you. You keep thinking that people that are unemployed somehow deserve it. I guess it makes you feel more comfort that it couldn't happen to you:cray:
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People that are unemployed for an extended period of time do not deserve any handouts that have been stolen from those who are employed.

If someone can cross our southern border, come into our country without even being able to speak the language, and get a paying job, they there is no excuse for any American to not be able to find a job. Maybe it's not a nice cushy job in their area of training, but by golly, they can get a job doing something.

And be forewarned, I speak from personal experience here.

Instead, we have our government stiffling any potential national prosperity by stealing assets from those who historically have been able to create the sort of high paying jobs that we need through their capital investments, and giving handouts to those who prefer to sit on their rear, make excuses and wait for someone else to solve their situation for them.
 
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I speak from personal experience here
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By this, I mean refusing to take unemployment and taking a harder job while I looked for a job in my field of expertise, not "crossing our southern border not being able to speak the language". :p
 
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J-P said:
By this, I mean refusing to take unemployment and taking a harder job while I looked for a job in my field of expertise, not "crossing our southern border not being able to speak the language". :p
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damn, I was already calling the AZ state patrol.
 
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#58
Who am I......???????????????????????

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#59
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Who you are is a question most of VN has pondered for quite some time, OE, and we're all kinda scared we might find out one day. :)
 
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J-P said:
People that are unemployed for an extended period of time do not deserve any handouts that have been stolen from those who are employed.

If someone can cross our southern border, come into our country without even being able to speak the language, and get a paying job, they there is no excuse for any American to not be able to find a job. Maybe it's not a nice cushy job in their area of training, but by golly, they can get a job doing something.

And be forewarned, I speak from personal experience here.

Instead, we have our government stiffling any potential national prosperity by stealing assets from those who historically have been able to create the sort of high paying jobs that we need through their capital investments, and giving handouts to those who prefer to sit on their rear, make excuses and wait for someone else to solve their situation for them.
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I'll tell you what, now that I am gainfully employed again. If the government stops taking 30% of my paycheck every pay day, I promise to never ask them for anything again.:good!:
 
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overseasorange2 said:
They both received their BA's from UT with honors. Assuming you are correct. It does not bode to well for the value of a UT diploma then.:eek:
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there are hordes of passable idiots out there with Diplomas that don't reflect reality. Diplomas don't preclude laziness or worthlessness in even a remote way.
 
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overseasorange2 said:
They both received their BA's from UT with honors. Assuming you are correct. It does not bode to well for the value of a UT diploma then.:eek:
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i have many friends who graduated with honors from Cal and who aren't even remotely employable due to their attitude and flakiness.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
there are hordes of passable idiots out there with Diplomas that don't reflect reality. Diplomas don't preclude laziness or worthlessness in even a remote way.
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But not many Dumb people get through a 4 year college like UT. Unless you think UT is a worthless institution.
 
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overseasorange2 said:
But not many Dumb people get through a 4 year college like UT. Unless you think UT is a worthless institution.
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there are dumb people graduating from every public Univ in this country. Having a diploma doesn't mean you're smart

a BA with honors in Art appreciation won't land many 6 figure jobs these days
 
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so it's your belief that your friends have just been ridiculously unlucky? care to share what their majors were?
 
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J-P said:
Who you are is a question most of VN has pondered for quite some time, OE, and we're all kinda scared we might find out one day. :)
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I think I would dissapoint most people....... that or you married guys would get upset when I asked if you had any naked pictures of you wives.......
 
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So, back to my original point, So you would rather see your tax dollars going to some Arab in the Middle East than on unemployed Americans? Somehow, the conversation diversed..
 
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