Obamacare Survives SCOTUS

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MontyPython said:
It would seem a fitting end to Trump's rein of stupidity that SCOTUS b*tch slaps him and the GOP on the way out the door.

Not only did Chief Justice Roberts lay the smackdown, but also Kavanaugh. Bravo!

OBAMAcare is here to stay, gents. Deal with it.

"Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice Brett Kavanaugh suggested Tuesday that it wasn't the Supreme Court's role to invalidate the entire sprawling, 900-page Affordable Care Act, even if one or more provisions are deemed unconstitutional, signaling the key parts of Obamacare will survive the latest court challenge.

As the pandemic rages, President Donald Trump lashes out at election returns and President-elect Joe Biden prepares for a new administration, the Supreme Court heard oral arguments to discuss whether to invalidate the linchpin of the nation's health care system.

The Trump administration and several Republican-led states are asking the court to strike down the law, 10 years after it was passed, potentially impacting millions of Americans. Should Roberts and Kavanaugh, at the very least, side with the court's three liberals, the law would remain intact.

Roberts said simply that if Trump and Republicans wanted to kill the law, they could have done it.

"I think it's hard for you to argue that Congress intended the entire act to fall if the mandate was struck down when the same Congress that lowered the penalty to zero did not even try to repeal the rest of the act," Roberts told the attorney representing Texas, one of the states fighting the law.
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That's a pretty dumb thing for Roberts to say. It shows an ignorance of politics and how things work. Democrats did not want to repeal a signature piece of legislation that passed 100% due to Democrats, thus they used the filibuster to block repeal after they lost control of the WH and Senate. In fact, it's a lie that "Congress" didn't try to repeal the whole thing. How many votes did the House have to repeal it? Did Roberts not know that? I hope a lawyer arguing this case was quick enough to think on his feet and throw these facts back at Roberts
 
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MontyPython said:
It would seem a fitting end to Trump's rein of stupidity that SCOTUS b*tch slaps him and the GOP on the way out the door.

Not only did Chief Justice Roberts lay the smackdown, but also Kavanaugh. Bravo!

OBAMAcare is here to stay, gents. Deal with it.

"Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice Brett Kavanaugh suggested Tuesday that it wasn't the Supreme Court's role to invalidate the entire sprawling, 900-page Affordable Care Act, even if one or more provisions are deemed unconstitutional, signaling the key parts of Obamacare will survive the latest court challenge.

As the pandemic rages, President Donald Trump lashes out at election returns and President-elect Joe Biden prepares for a new administration, the Supreme Court heard oral arguments to discuss whether to invalidate the linchpin of the nation's health care system.

The Trump administration and several Republican-led states are asking the court to strike down the law, 10 years after it was passed, potentially impacting millions of Americans. Should Roberts and Kavanaugh, at the very least, side with the court's three liberals, the law would remain intact.

Roberts said simply that if Trump and Republicans wanted to kill the law, they could have done it.

"I think it's hard for you to argue that Congress intended the entire act to fall if the mandate was struck down when the same Congress that lowered the penalty to zero did not even try to repeal the rest of the act," Roberts told the attorney representing Texas, one of the states fighting the law.
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SCOTUS upholds the Law as it is written. Roberts, Kavanaugh, as it turns out...read it as it is. They have a job to do. They shouldnt be Politicians.
 
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How can Roberts say that Congress didn't try to repeal the rest of the act? Congress tried no less than 70 times to repeal the rest of the act

GOP aims to kill Obamacare yet again after failing 70 times

I respect a difference of opinion but I don't respect a guy in his position who's not up on the facts. How can he say that Congress didn't try to repeal the rest of the act? Seriously
 
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Remember, the Republicans (including former President Trump) have been promising a replacement for near ten years. They've spoken in huge generalities. Less expensive. Covers preexisting conditions. Complete autonomy in choosing providers. Better in every respect, they said.


And they have proposed exactly squadoosh.
 
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Sea Ray said:
How can Roberts say that Congress didn't try to repeal the rest of the act? Congress tried no less than 70 times to repeal the rest of the act

GOP aims to kill Obamacare yet again after failing 70 times

I respect a difference of opinion but I don't respect a guy in his position who's not up on the facts. How can he say that Congress didn't try to repeal the rest of the act? Seriously
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Sigh. Wow. Just .... wow.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Remember, the Republicans (including former President Trump) have been promising a replacement for near ten years. They've spoken in huge generalities. Less expensive. Covers preexisting conditions. Complete autonomy in choosing providers. Better in every respect, they said.


And they have proposed exactly squadoosh.
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That’s bc you gotta wait 2 weeks
 
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Sea Ray said:
That's a pretty dumb thing for Roberts to say. It shows an ignorance of politics and how things work. Democrats did not want to repeal a signature piece of legislation that passed 100% due to Democrats, thus they used the filibuster to block repeal after they lost control of the WH and Senate. In fact, it's a lie that "Congress" didn't try to repeal the whole thing. How many votes did the House have to repeal it? Did Roberts not know that? I hope a lawyer arguing this case was quick enough to think on his feet and throw these facts back at Roberts
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Roberts is a clown
 
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lawgator1 said:
Remember, the Republicans (including former President Trump) have been promising a replacement for near ten years. They've spoken in huge generalities. Less expensive. Covers preexisting conditions. Complete autonomy in choosing providers. Better in every respect, they said.


And they have proposed exactly squadoosh.
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Trump is still your President.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Remember, the Republicans (including former President Trump) have been promising a replacement for near ten years. They've spoken in huge generalities. Less expensive. Covers preexisting conditions. Complete autonomy in choosing providers. Better in every respect, they said.


And they have proposed exactly squadoosh.
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Are you really worried about promises wrt the aca? The lies told to pass it and the way it was forced through without even being read overshadow anything the gop did
 
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Wait..so this invalidates the entire "Americans require access to healthcare" argument from leftards right?
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
It’s hilarious that you think the ACA is a good idea. You are probably in favor of a nation wide mask mandate, lockdowns and the find for not having insurance. It’s no surprise that you hate freedom. Liberal troll.
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Freedom to die....freedom to not have health insurance.....other civilized nations look at conservatives in the US and wonder what went wrong.
 
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titansvolsfaninga said:
Freedom to die....freedom to not have health insurance.....other civilized nations look at conservatives in the US and wonder what went wrong.
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I’ve always loved the “omg have you heard how all the other countries say we are so uncouth , why can’t we just be like them approach “ LOL
 
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Sea Ray said:
Biden has already said that he's going to redo healthcare and call it Bidencare. I'd like for the Supremes to invalidate a mandate to buy insurance just to nip that in the bud but their inclination is always to do very little
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I thought that was done - they already got rid of the individual mandate.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
Wouldn’t they need to find the mandate unconstitutional in order to need to sever it in the first place?
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You're probably right. Been a long time since con law. Just remember the general principle of that if you can decide a matter on narrow grounds and avoid reaching the constitutional question, you do so.
 
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evillawyer said:
You're probably right. Been a long time since con law. Just remember the general principle of that if you can decide a matter on narrow grounds and avoid reaching the constitutional question, you do so.
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This right here is the very reason why I don’t trust lawyers . 👆🏼
 
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lawgator1 said:
Remember, the Republicans (including former President Trump) have been promising a replacement for near ten years. They've spoken in huge generalities. Less expensive. Covers preexisting conditions. Complete autonomy in choosing providers. Better in every respect, they said.


And they have proposed exactly squadoosh.
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Incorrect. They proposed the exact same thing, renaming it Trump Care...then when that didnt work. He decided he was going to completely do away with it.

That's what happens when Narcissus, er Gollum, stares at his reflection all day in the pool. He becomes obsessed with himself, and no other.

He only gives one rats ass, and its about numero uno.
 
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Sea Ray said:
How can Roberts say that Congress didn't try to repeal the rest of the act? Congress tried no less than 70 times to repeal the rest of the act

GOP aims to kill Obamacare yet again after failing 70 times

I respect a difference of opinion but I don't respect a guy in his position who's not up on the facts. How can he say that Congress didn't try to repeal the rest of the act? Seriously
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I'm not sure that it's relevant anyway. Unless you're advocating that the Supreme Court should strike down the whole law because the Republicans made it obvious they wanted it struck down, but couldn't get the votes.
 
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clarksvol00 said:
I'm not sure that it's relevant anyway. Unless you're advocating that the Supreme Court should strike down the whole law because the Republicans made it obvious they wanted it struck down, but couldn't get the votes.
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Translation: Republicans were not united against it. Ergo, SCOTUS ruling against the GOP makes sense.
 
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clarksvol00 said:
I'm not sure that it's relevant anyway. Unless you're advocating that the Supreme Court should strike down the whole law because the Republicans made it obvious they wanted it struck down, but couldn't get the votes.
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Not knowing the facts is always relevant. I can accept an opinion if you are educated on the facts. It's apparent that Roberts is not which is problematic
 
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